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I speak a little Chinese. I think she said that the new 700-series has new and improved chrome trim, shoulder pads, whitewall tires, and a pair of his-and-her cup holders.
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The addition of four more samples could be good. But ...
If they added more sample memory for the new voices, I'd rather they skipped the voices, and instead used the memory for improving the two existing voices.
If they did not add more sample memory to accommodate the new voices ...
I wouldn’t trust what the dealer told a customer who recently bought a CLP-685 from his store First, the new pianos are not yet at most dealers and dealers rarely know anything besides the brochure information. And second, of course the dealer will say “I didn’t sell you an inferior piano”. Let’s see how the dealer will advertise the CLP-785 to a person who’s there in the store and chooses between it and a used CLP-685 on the Internet 😁
Yes it's completely true and added to this that yamaha said in the 15 minutes video improved grand action so yamaha is a big company and when they said improved action so we should trust them even if it's a slight improvement but the result is the same which is improved action.
If they added more sample memory for the new voices, I'd rather they skipped the voices, and instead used the memory for improving the two existing voices.
If they did not add more sample memory to accommodate the new voices ...
I’m thinking they probably did not add more ‘memory’ space for the so-called new pianos. It shows how these manufacturers are simply playing games with us. These ‘period’ pianos are a gimmick. The truth is that the charm of these instruments extends beyond the sound: Narrower keys, smaller frames, overall different building-materials and other aspects unique to their corresponding time periods.
Yamaha has simply captured (I assume) one component, so it won’t be much more than gimmicky presets, but guess what, they know this trick sells.
I wouldn’t trust what the dealer told a customer who recently bought a CLP-685 from his store First, the new pianos are not yet at most dealers and dealers rarely know anything besides the brochure information. And second, of course the dealer will say “I didn’t sell you an inferior piano”. Let’s see how the dealer will advertise the CLP-785 to a person who’s there in the store and chooses between it and a used CLP-685 on the Internet 😁
I have to say these were my thoughts too. And having watched Rich and/or Hugh in some of their videos they never really say anything meaningful (and certainly there's never even a whiff of criticism) - about anything. It's all just super-polite, syrupy guff.
Let’s see how the dealer will advertise the CLP-785 to a person who’s there in the store and chooses between it and a used CLP-685 on the Internet 😁
I think the result will be the same like this:
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Let’s see how the dealer will advertise the CLP-785 to a person who’s there in the store and chooses between it and a used CLP-685 on the Internet 😁
I think the result will be the same like this:
Nice sound and nice playing (when he starts to play about 8:36). In the above video I think he doesn't use any reverb, so we can hear the clean samples without alterations. That's good. IMHO Yamaha piano samples on their DPs are very well balanced. Honestly, I would not feel the need to use a VST on such a Yamaha DP. I especially like how they sound in the lower octaves. Rich, but not overly-bass (unlike most Roland) and no exaggerated volume on the first octaves (unlike most Kawai).
The 88 keys take up over four feet of space. There's no room for those extra features!
Originally Posted by Otavio
They need to put some dsp in these pianos for top class effects, like convolution reverbs, good parallel compression and a multiband graphic eq
But seriously ... No acoustic piano has those features. If the goal is to mimic a grand piano, then there no place for any of those items.
I agree, if you play from internal/external speakers it's better to disable reverb effects, because they alter the original sound of the notes and the natural reverb of your room. But with headphones a little reverb is good and makes the sound more realistic, because with headphones you cannot hear natural ambience resonances, being that the sound goes directly to your ears.
Since headphones samples are binaural, Yamaha could (should?) have recorded a minimum of natural reverb, like the Garritan CFX where we ear the Abbey road room reverberation.
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Since headphones samples are binaural, Yamaha could (should?) have recorded a minimum of natural reverb, like the Garritan CFX where we ear the Abbey road room reverberation.
Doesn't that depends on the recording environment? If they recorded the binaural in an anechoic chamber (perhaps because they expect after-the-fact reverb to be applied by the user) then the sample would be just as dry as the sample.
First, the new pianos are not yet at most dealers and dealers rarely know anything besides the brochure information. And second, of course the dealer will say “I didn’t sell you an inferior piano”. Let’s see how the dealer will advertise the CLP-785 to a person who’s there in the store and chooses between it and a used CLP-685 on the Internet 😁
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