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They would be crazy to announce them if they're not going to be available soon? Cause all the people like me who were holding off on a CLP-6xx in anticipation of a 7xx, are just going to carry on waiting, thus killing sales stone dead?

I had an instrument from Yamaha with GH3 action (with those "bended wires"), and Kawai with RHII action. I didn't have any problems with Yamaha keyboard, I liked the feel and the lack of any problems. And I have a lot of complaints about RHII keyboard from Kawai. So after that, I ask: what does it matter to me who shows the structure of their keyboard action, and who does not, if in the end I am definitely more satisfied with the keyboard whose manufacturer does not show it or shows "bended wires"? I don't care what keyboard action looks like as long as I'm happy with the feel and reliability of the keyboard.

And about the screen, I would definitely prefer an "old-fashioned" screen and control panel with separate buttons (like on lower-end models from Kawai or Yamaha) than one large touch screen and the way it is implemented in the flagship models of Kawai now.

Availability in the UK on dealers websites is October, so a few months before we can get some objective hands on views.
I am sure Tony from Bonners will post one of his excellent demonstrations, but note they are demonstrations, not critical reviews. He always advises people to visit Bonners to try before you buy, which most users of this forum also sensibly recommend.
Yamaha certainly market their products well. Kawai have some excellent digital pianos, but although my local dealer in Newcastle on Tyne sells Kawai acoustic upright and grand pianos, but they will not stock Kawai digital because they cannot sell them (their words not mine).
They also stock Roland, and I love the LX 708 cabinet, but their new modelled sound is so artificial to my ears. Sorry Roland fans.
So I will visit Bonners in October, a 600 mile round trip, to test drive the Yamaha alongside the Kawai and the new Dexibell H10 and give you the benefit of my very inexperienced views!!!

According to Yamaha French website, clp700 will be available in September in France, except from clp785 which should be available in October.

I wonder how the 785 will compare to the NU1X.

Overall, it seems like people ‘round here preferred the NU1X over the 685; even in terms of sound; which baffled me since the NU1X only uses four modest speakers. And yes, when it comes to ‘upright cabinet’ type pianos the more -speakers- the better; it’s simply a matter of dispersion and not raw volume (they can all get pretty loud).

My take is that Yamaha did not touch the speaker system for the 785. The more I read about the ‘transducers’, the more I feel like these are being used for vibrations rather than sound; akin to the TRS; only this time Yamaha seems to go for the whole cabinet (vibration) instead of just the keys (I could be wrong).

What Kawai James is trying to say is, Kawai, pays James, to go to international competitions to slip a few benjamins in the competitor's pockets to select the Kawai. But of recent years, yamaha has been dishing out heavier benjamins. So, Kawai has been planting these Informational attack dogs on Online Piano forums to roll fud' on yamaha discussions.

I think you overestimate how many people play with in build speakers. I think those that prefer NU1X over CLP 685 are liking keyboard more or they just play on headphones and don't mind weaker speaker system. Honestly even N3X I've tested had a bit too weak sound compared to real grand piano or even CLP685 or CA98. And I don't mean sound loudness alone, rather it didn't have proper vibrations.

There's Beethoven, and there's Chopin! I'm listening to the Chopin right now and it sounds like it's a 19th century piano sample? This is exciting!

Did they or did they not improve the action? I don’t want any ‘ifs, ands, or buts’; I just want a straight answer! Yes or No!

Did they sample Chopin’s piano?...once again, ‘Yes or No’.

Did they update speaker system?.....do I need to say it again?......Yes or freaking No!

I’m losing my patience here.

So far the only thing we know for certain is that the NU1X still kicks the 785’s ass!

You can see in t he specs then did not.

Oh Pete! Show some patience. Because you're not going to buy one, right? Me neither.

But what’s all this talk about transducers? Surely, it doesn’t have a sound board, so is this simply for good vibrations?

It's the same thing as the Rumble pak for N64 controllers. or the ubiquitous vibration feature in all modern consoles. It just doesn't vibrate the keys, it kind of just wiggles your belly fat.

Can it wiggle other things, I ask?

Calm down Pete. I am getting concerned about your blood pressure. Remember, patience is a virtue!!!!!

It depends on how you sit on the bench!

Well - hate to rain on the the troll parade, my suggestion would be to create a diferent "Let's be negative on a piano nobody has seen and I don't want to buy thread" for those posts.

I'm actually really curious about thenew series. Especially the CLP-745 and possibly the CLP-775. It'll be also interesting to see when and what pricepoint they'll come available over here in The Netherlands. As far as I've seen there's no CLP-645 PE's in stock anywhere anymore here. Spotted a white one in Amsterdam though (for EUR 1995). The new ones don't seem to be a major upgrade, but nice enough not to rush to a store and get a 645.

Maybe I'm biased. Just to share a different perspective, currently playing mostly on a CLP-300 which is well over 30 years old (yes, ready for an upgrade in action, samples and sound ;-) ) which has developed only some minor issues. Also play on an upright Petrof, which is way nicer. I don't think anything in the CLP-700 series would be good enough to beat a proper accoustic upright in sound, feel and overall "playing experience".

Does anyone have info (or even a guess) on the difference between GrandTouch and GrandTouch-S?

I’ll make a guess myself: GrandTouch uses wood, while the -S version uses plastic?

On that note, does the wood really make a difference? Folks who have tried wood and plastic, what difference did it make for you?