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Gombessa #2965106 04/09/20 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Gombessa
Depending on how familiar you are with acoustic uprights, what you describe may well be "working as intended." You can definitely trigger a "dead note" on an upright, accompanied by that feeling of the key bottoming out without throwing the hammer. I think it's mainly a technique think you learn to work around.

This. I recently bought a K300, and had the same thing. Initially I thought perhaps the action needed some adjusting, but after 3 weeks it is clear it is was my technique, and now it almost doesn't happen anymore. It was me who needed some adjusting, coming from a CA58.

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I just placed an order for Kawai NV5, Orlando FL area. I am excited! I have Kawai CA93 for 10 years and have enjoyed this piano very much but I believe I need to upgrade to an acoustic one simply I want to have the real feel to a real piano. Kawai now offering 24 months of finance with 0 interests. Hope this helps.

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Originally Posted by lialim88
I just placed an order for Kawai NV5, Orlando FL area. I am excited! I have Kawai CA93 for 10 years and have enjoyed this piano very much but I believe I need to upgrade to an acoustic one

You do realize the NV5 is not acoustic? smile

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Originally Posted by lialim88
I just placed an order for Kawai NV5, Orlando FL area. I am excited! I have Kawai CA93 for 10 years and have enjoyed this piano very much but I believe I need to upgrade to an acoustic one

You do realize the NV5 is not acoustic? smile
Seems that someone is in trouble laugh To give some comfort i got mine today and it looks like a piano, feels like a piano and when using headphones even sounds like a piano smile

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Mine is a real piano and I refuse to believe otherwise.... although it does sometimes feel odd that I have to switch it on before it will play ...


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Yes, I do realize that the NV5 is digital piano with a real feel of an acoustic one. I want to be able t play with a headset on. I haven't gotten mine yet, can't wit. Also, I played on Yahama Upright acoustic, Rolando digital, Yamaha both acoustic and digital. In my own opinion, Kawai sounds the best.

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Lia, I’ve never played a “Rolando digital”. Are these good?

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Pete ... try an Orlando digital. Or maybe an Armando digital.

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I’ve tried the AvantGrande from Yamaho, but I’ve yet to try an Orlando.... from Rolando? wink

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How about Ronaldo? He's a dandy dude over here in Europe. But far away across the ocean you seem to say "football" to some guys that prod and nudge around... Go figure.


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Yes, I’ve never understood: why ‘football’, yet they do all the work with their helmets. So many things they could’ve called it, but no, they had to steal the name from the guys who are truly playing football; you know, because they use their feet and stuff to move the ball forward instead of violently pounding into one another head-first.

Why not call it headball?

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Welcome to the forum, Lia. And congratulations on your new NV5. Hang around and send a picture when you get it.

These guys don't mean to be disrespectful. They are just good for a laugh. And some pretty good advice sometimes.

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I just tried the K300/K500 in Kawai dealer yesterday, and it's clear that the K500 keyboard action is better in both of material and controlling. But dnt known which model is closer to the NV5.


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Yes, Lia, don’t pay too much attention to us. It’s all meant in jest. Hope to see you back soon. smile

In the meantime, who’s game for some headball? (henceforward, I refuse to call it football)!

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I just tried the K300/K500 in Kawai dealer yesterday, and it's clear that the K500 keyboard action is better in both of material and controlling.

That's interesting. From what I understand, the K-300 and K-500 actions should, at least material-wise, be identical. Can anyone (Kawai James?) confirm that there are indeed differences (apart, maybe, from the controlling aspect) - and also let us/me know what that means with regard to the NV5?


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Originally Posted by Mickey_
That's interesting. From what I understand, the K-300 and K-500 actions should, at least material-wise, be identical. Can anyone (Kawai James?) confirm that there are indeed differences (apart, maybe, from the controlling aspect) - and also let us/me know what that means with regard to the NV5?

The feeling I get after playing both pianos is that they have different keyboards.
From materials to controlling by different pivot length I guess.
On KawaiUS website shows keyboard touch
K300: White Key Surfaces Acrylic, Black Key Surfaces Phenol
K500: White Key Surfaces NEOTEX™ Black Key Surfaces NEOTEX™

And I can feel K500 action is obviously lighter and controllable than K300, closed to the level of some baby grand action.
But maybe NV5 is another special version for Hybrid millennium3 upright action.


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You are right about the different surfaces, robinlb.

According to the specs sheets, the depths of the K-300 and the K-500 are 24" (61 cm) and 24.5" (62 cm) respectively. I'm wondering whether that could mean that the "hidden" parts of the actions, e.g. the pivot lenghts, are different, too.

(Please note that I have finally used the words "pivot lengths" for the first time. I guess I'm a full member of this forum now. :-))


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The K-300 and K-500 feel different when playing. Besides the differing surfaces, the K-500 feels a bit heavier to me. I know this is the opposite of what robinlb experiences. Don't know why.

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Hello everyone,

I am enjoying this thread. Here are a couple of videos we did on the subject of hybrids, hope you find them useful.

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Roland digital piano is very good. I thought it sounds better than the lower end Yamaha digitals but when I got my first Kawai CA93. I am convinced now that Kawai is by far the better built, sound, etc. :=_) my amateur opinion.

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