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Hello everybody!

I'm new around here and to the world of pianos and recently bought myself a Roland FP10 which I'm pleased with as an entry level digital piano. Unfortunately, mine might have a problem, although I'm not sure if it is actually a defective unit or not.

I will try to describe the problem as best as I can: when playing the keys (on Piano 1 tone), everything seems fine except for one black key (I think it's called F#, not sure, still learning everything) which produces a kind of metallic sound with it. I thought it was that key problem, but then when I try piano 2 and 3 tones, all the keys sound fine. When I go into Piano 4 tone, then it's a white key (G minor, I think) that comes with that metallic sound. So with this I excluded the problem being on the key and was thinking it could be the speakers, but the problem persists over headphones and through the computer 3.5mm jack.

I also tried to do a factory reset just in case, but the problem still happens. Meanwhile, I contacted Roland and, unfortunately, I've got an answer in Spanish (although I wrote it in English) and even after translating it seems like the person didn't fully understand the problem (or I don't understand their answer, either way, I ended up more confused than what I was).

I uploaded a small sample containing some keys including the problematic one: https://vocaroo.com/i/s1Hz3FowEICb

Can somebody tell me if there is in fact a problem? Should I be worried?

Thanks in advance.

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Personally nothing jumps out at me about that note. The timbre of the tone changes for each key through the register and I think you've just picked up on that particular one and made an issue out of it. With a good pair of headphones and digital piano samples you can send yourself crazy obsessing over a particular notes voicing but imo no, your unit is not defective.

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It's characteristic of old SN piano tone. If I use FP10 internal sound, I prefer Piano 2, since it's less audible there.


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Thanks for the insights.

My lack of experience made me think that it could be a defect, but if it's a normal behavior, i'm more relaxed about it. Thanks again.

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Hi Dears. I don't want to create another thread.
I've just bought Roland FP-10 and got confused with next. When I plug my Iphone headphones into 3.5 jack, the outcome volume is very very low. I also got other headphones from Phillips - same issue if plug it in into 3.5 output.. Even I set a MAX volume on the piano, it sounds in headphones like someone is playing in other room. Previously I had Casio Px-130 - never had any issues like this with neither Iphone speakers nor Phillips. Do you have same issue? Can you repeat it & advise how to fix it? I highly appreciate,

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I use FP10 only as a piano MIDI controller, but I've just checked its headphone output and the Amp is the weakest I've ever met in Digital Piano (and I owned many).


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Originally Posted by beriva
Hi Dears. I don't want to create another thread.
I've just bought Roland FP-10 and got confused with next. When I plug my Iphone headphones into 3.5 jack, the outcome volume is very very low. I also got other headphones from Phillips - same issue if plug it in into 3.5 output.. Even I set a MAX volume on the piano, it sounds in headphones like someone is playing in other room. Previously I had Casio Px-130 - never had any issues like this with neither Iphone speakers nor Phillips. Do you have same issue? Can you repeat it & advise how to fix it? I highly appreciate,


I fixed that by getting a set of good quality headphones - the ear bud types that I had weren’t producing the volume that I wanted. I had already known that this had been lighted with the FP-30 anyway, so I’m not surprised that the FP-10 is the same.


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Originally Posted by beriva
Hi Dears. I don't want to create another thread.
I've just bought Roland FP-10 and got confused with next. When I plug my Iphone headphones into 3.5 jack, the outcome volume is very very low. I also got other headphones from Phillips - same issue if plug it in into 3.5 output.. Even I set a MAX volume on the piano, it sounds in headphones like someone is playing in other room. Previously I had Casio Px-130 - never had any issues like this with neither Iphone speakers nor Phillips. Do you have same issue? Can you repeat it & advise how to fix it? I highly appreciate,


I fixed that by getting a set of good quality headphones - the ear bud types that I had weren’t producing the volume that I wanted. I had already known that this had been lighted with the FP-30 anyway, so I’m not surprised that the FP-10 is the same.


Could you please advise some low cost solution headphones which will fix the issue? Although I did not plan to buy it it looks there is no other choice. Very disappointing

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Originally Posted by beriva
Hi Dears. I don't want to create another thread.
I've just bought Roland FP-10 and got confused with next. When I plug my Iphone headphones into 3.5 jack, the outcome volume is very very low. I also got other headphones from Phillips - same issue if plug it in into 3.5 output.. Even I set a MAX volume on the piano, it sounds in headphones like someone is playing in other room. Previously I had Casio Px-130 - never had any issues like this with neither Iphone speakers nor Phillips. Do you have same issue? Can you repeat it & advise how to fix it? I highly appreciate,

The impedance of the headphones are too high or the sensitivity is too low, for the amplifier built into the FP10. Either using low impedance, high sensitivity headphones, or employing a separate headphone amplifier, will address this issue.


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^^^

Tyrone beat me to it - as above.

I bought some Sony MDR-7506 which worked fine for me... BUT you might want it louder, plus the headphone amplifier built into the FP-10 may be different to the FP-30 (so best check).

If you have a piano dealership within reasonable distance which sells headphones... as well as the FP-10 you could audition them at the shop before parting with your money.


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Originally Posted by OscarRamsey
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Tyrone beat me to it - as above.

I bought some Sony MDR-7506 which worked fine for me... BUT you might want it louder, plus the headphone amplifier built into the FP-10 may be different to the FP-30 (so best check).

If you have a piano dealership within reasonable distance which sells headphones... as well as the FP-10 you could audition them at the shop before parting with your money.


Thanks.Well, actually this model has Sensitivity104 dB, Impedance 24 Ohm. My Phillips SHB3175 has Sensitivity104 dB, Impedance 32 Ohm. Pretty close. Thus it looks this solution won't play big difference.
I wonder if there is any cheap amplifier to fit the needs.

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Originally Posted by beriva
I wonder if there is any cheap amplifier to fit the needs.

There are headphone amps under $20 USD.


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