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The Jansen is solid and comfy, never bothers me.
We also have a duet bench that is wonderful. I don't remember the name of the manufacturer. It is not as deep as the Jansen, and it is not as heavy. Last year we replaced the padding after maybe 10 years, and replaced the crappy velour cover with leather which our local upholstery shop tufted nicely, and it is beautiful now. So, it might rock a little under 2 enthusiastic players, but I can still move it. If I tried to move a Jansen duet bench, it'd probably kill me.

I'm a little bit ADHD though, and can't sit very well. I have to get up between every piece, and even between every practice problem.

On a related note: What saddle do you ride on your bike? How did you arrive at a comfy bike saddle?


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I do often find it odd that there are these ugly seats to go with these elegant looking pianos. Surely an ergonomic seat that looks good is not beyond our ken.

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I would advice anyone that doesn't do this in his life to exercise, if possible.

Since i do things like push ups, deadlifts and squats my back has never been stronger, and i never have back problems anymore. (Before i did sometimes, like most people)

I think after playing piano, which comes in first place of course, fitness might be the second best thing you can do for yourself.

Even just a few push-ups a day will make your back stronger, you don't need any equipment for that.

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Not sure if I'm still allowed to comment on here, I think you have to pay now. But in case this gets through... I spend most of my day in front of one keyboard or another. I type for a living and play piano for a hobby. I'm very conscious that if anything goes wrong with my ability to do either of those things, it will mess me up pretty thoroughly. With respect to the typing, the most expensive thing I have in my setup is an ergonomic chair. With respect to my piano playing, the most expensive thing I have in my setup is an antique piano stool ( or is it a bench?) I chose it because it's contemporary with my piano (1907) and it is beautiful. I find it is pretty good for spending 2-3 hours per day on the piano, and if I start to feel a strain i examine my posture, that's usually where the problem lies.


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Originally Posted by elenmirie
Not sure if I'm still allowed to comment on here, I think you have to pay now.

Elenmirie, the message said "The forums will likely be changing to an all subscription model soon." After that, there haven't been any updates about this. So you can still comment as much as you like to!


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Nowadays I use a wooden dining-room chair with a couple of books on the seat to raise height a little and about 5 thin dining-chair / garden chair thin cushion pads on top. Started using loads of cushions after a bicycle accident (which made sitting rather than slouching on a settee impossible for some years, hence my not playing the piano for such a long time).
It isn't ideal - but a chair is nice because it supports the back when stopping between pieces. Can sit back and think!
I have played on other people's pianos prior to the accident using padded benches and they were quite comfortable, but they were solid, non adjustable types. Quite nice, tbh, but never got round to buying one myself. For a while (before the accident) I used a drummers stool (throne?) which was a bit too wobbly but a good height - I suspect some adjustable benches suffer from wobbliness too. I wouldn't use one now because of said accident it would be too painful. Before that, ordinary dining-room chair with books and a cushion.....or when in idle mode, just the chair (which was too low, really)
Sitting on the edge? No way, which possibly explains my poor pedaling technique....
Seems that some people have this aspect sorted, the rest of us just treat it as a minor inconvenience.


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Tried 'em out. Drum thrones, with and without that comfy bike seat. Everything there; this was the most comfortable by far. Unfortunately it's not the best looking! Guess you can't have everything. . . .but it's sturdy and functional. What d'ya think?

https://www.promenademusic.co.uk/Quiklok-BX718-Bench


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Originally Posted by peterws
Tried 'em out. Drum thrones, with and without that comfy bike seat. Everything there; this was the most comfortable by far. Unfortunately it's not the best looking! Guess you can't have everything. . . .but it's sturdy and functional. What d'ya think?

https://www.promenademusic.co.uk/Quiklok-BX718-Bench

I bought a similar (?identical) seat from Amazon a few years ago: https://www.amazon.co.uk/BX-Quality-Keyboard-Bench-Extra-Thick/dp/B003R7KU8A

It felt OK initially but I soon felt that the cushion was just too soft and compressed too easily, and it felt like I was sitting on a hard surface within a few minutes. (BTW, I weigh less than 10st). I've since replaced it with a different bench......and subsequently added a firm cushion on top. Still not ideal, but better than anything else I've tried since (which doesn't include super duper super-expensive computer-controlled hydraulic robotic benches........).

Of course, it could be your version is different and has a much firmer cushion.

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Originally Posted by U3piano
I would advice anyone that doesn't do this in his life to exercise, if possible.

Since i do things like push ups, deadlifts and squats my back has never been stronger, and i never have back problems anymore. (Before i did sometimes, like most people)

I think after playing piano, which comes in first place of course, fitness might be the second best thing you can do for yourself.

Even just a few push-ups a day will make your back stronger, you don't need any equipment for that.


I think most of us need to be more fit, and to have good posture -which also has the advantage of making playing easier. It's a shame there's no one-size-fits-all for posture and ergonomics.

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Originally Posted by U3piano
I would advice anyone that doesn't do this in his life to exercise, if possible.

Since i do things like push ups, deadlifts and squats my back has never been stronger, and i never have back problems anymore. (Before i did sometimes, like most people)

I think after playing piano, which comes in first place of course, fitness might be the second best thing you can do for yourself.

Even just a few push-ups a day will make your back stronger, you don't need any equipment for that.


I think most of us need to be more fit, and to have good posture -which also has the advantage of making playing easier. It's a shame there's no one-size-fits-all for posture and ergonomics.


I did my bum in running too fast on a treadmill, though the signs were there and I ignored them. Somethings amiss with my left wrist now, doing chinups (the straight bar was too straight) and last time I did the Les Mills bike stuff, the air con wasn't switched on. It was hellish.
Cycle on the cycle path, and its dogs, kids, mobility scooters, motorised kids' scooters et al conspiring to bring you down.
Oh for the open road! Potholes not filled in from 3 years ago. . . .
Well! Nobody can say I didn't try . . . .


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Originally Posted by peterws
last time I did the Les Mills bike stuff, the air con wasn't switched on. ...


That's interesting, I hadn't realised Les Mills operated in your part of the world. He lives just down the road and I thought he was restricted to New Zealand. Shows how much I know.


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We get the impression its spread worldwide. Maybe Mr Mills sold out to the Yanks in California. It's those who we seem to deal with here, when they visit, for assessment and other purposes. They're good courses.

Regarding my seat; I finally settled for a comfy Quiklok X stand affair. I have to set it in on min otherwise it's too high! (Scratches head. Who designs these things?? I haven't got short legs . . .)

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