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Regarding the A-E-B, well I don’t hear the B enough, maybe it’s masked by the more louder other notes but it’s the one that gives the differing “color” of that chord, compared to the pure A major of the first chord.


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It's very strange, but a (little?) known phenomenon. It should be blindingly obvious that CG can't have meant "terrible", as
A) he's already highly praised Acolyte's playing, and
B) His following sentence (after "terrible) is more high praise, with the "kudos" remark.
So...must be a vocab error.
It certainly is a remarkable phenomenon...(the core of my current project, non-music related). [/offtopic]

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Originally Posted by thickfingers
It's very strange, but a (little?) known phenomenon. It should be blindingly obvious that CG can't have meant "terrible", as
A) he's already highly praised Acolyte's playing, and
B) His following sentence (after "terrible) is more high praise, with the "kudos" remark.
So...must be a vocab error.
It certainly is a remarkable phenomenon...(the core of my current project, non-music related). [/offtopic]


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What’s more “terrible” is that sometimes I do that while speaking in my native language, using a word that sounds similar but is the wrong word and can happen to be the opposite of what I meant. However I realize it with some slight delay and correct myself. Not with English though frown I still struggle constructing even some simple sentences from time to time and constantly try to remember grammar rules, etc.

On the other hand I’ve been fascinated all my life with puns which originated with me always imagining closely sounding words from other words even as a kid. That has caused me problems in school since I would respond with puns to teachers. And with girlfriends laugh


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Originally Posted by CyberGene
What’s more “terrible” is that sometimes I do that while speaking in my native language, using a word that sounds similar but is the wrong word and can happen to be the opposite of what I meant. However I realize it with some slight delay and correct myself. Not with English though frown I still struggle constructing even some simple sentences from time to time and constantly try to remember grammar rules, etc.

On the other hand I’ve been fascinated all my life with puns which originated with me always imagining closely sounding words from other words even as a kid. That has caused me problems in school since I would respond with puns to teachers. And with girlfriends laugh


I'm clumsy when speaking in my language even. Sometimes I say weird stuff...but last time when my roommate mentioned he has to have his bow rehaired, I asked him "so when are you going to get your hair rebowed?" and we looked at each other weirdly for a sec... laugh

Or in a shop, I needed some Kleenex (a brand of tissues) and sometimes a word slips out of my mind...so I said "I need some Kleenex, for my uh...nose". And we laughed for good 10 minutes, like "sure, sure, let's get some Kleenex for your...nose", wink laugh (I made an awkward pause before "nose" so it probably looked like I'm looking for a reason to buy 4 packs of soft tissues)

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LOL, tell me about talking awkward. And then wanting to smash my head from embarrassment...

I remember recently I wrote something like “banging on the keys all night” here, and EssBrace responded that I should bang somewhere else laugh


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LOL, tell me about talking awkward. And then wanting to smash my head from embarrassment...

I remember recently I wrote something like “banging on the keys all night” here, and EssBrace responded that I should bang somewhere else laugh


Nothing wrong with banging the keys all night long wink You gotta do what you love! Youknow, girls, they come and go...but piano, that's one true passion we should not neglect.

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Well, you know, pianos come and go too... Just look at my signature laugh


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In French language, we have a “terrible” word which means terrific... but Google traduction propose terrible instead !


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I had to google translate "traduction". It translates to "translate". How terrible!
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In French language, we have a “terrible” word which means terrific... but Google traduction propose terrible instead !

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Originally Posted by CyberGene
For some weird reason, and mainly because English is not my native language I always thought “terrible” means great, used for praise. Thanks to Joe and checking my dictionary I realized it meant totally the opposite. I feel extremely dumb right now.

Don't worry, I used to confuse terrible and terrific as well. English isn't my native language either.


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Hardly surprising that such gaffes occur, with the magnitude of the perversion (sorry for the verbosity, no other way to put it) that the word in question has undergone, over time. How it occurred can only be boggled at (if you have the time).
It's sister word "horrific" means exactly what you'd expect, being an adjectivisation of the noun. The similar process applied to "terror", somehow, has evolved to mean "fabulous"! Virtually the opposite .
Funny language. Don't envy an adult foreigner trying to learn it.
Have to say, can't denigrate this Bulgarian's grasp of it, whenever he learned it.
That means, gentlemen, that we had here an unexpected accident. I rest my case--regardless of the indignantly qualified nature of the defendant, he should be acquitted of the "terrible" charge.
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English is a terribly complex and treacherous language. "You played terribly" and "You played terribly well" have opposite meanings. In other words, 'terribly' means 'awful' or 'atrociously' etc, or 'very' or 'exceptionally' etc, depending upon the context.

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Treachery is right. It's a language for deceit, and has been perverted over centuries for just that reason. "White man speak with forked tongue!" sick

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If you think English is difficult try Bulgarian laugh I think it’s just me who sucks at foreign languages.


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Terrible has many meanings, including terrifying, horrifying, dreadful, appalling, frightful, and sickening.
Long ago it was sometimes used as a simple superlative upon the following adjective, and might not indicate anything bad at all.
Modern usage has dispensed with the latter and it's almost always used to denote something bad.

Anyway ... welcome to the mis-stated phrase club, CG. For reference see My Big Fat Greek Wedding.

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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Terrible has many meanings, including terrifying, horrifying, dreadful, appalling, frightful, and sickening.
Long ago it was sometimes used as a simple superlative upon the following adjective, and might not indicate anything bad at all.
Modern usage has dispensed with the latter and it's almost always used to denote something bad.

It's actually the reverse. It started with the word "terrible" meaning something bad, and then with the ly ending, was subsequently used as an adverb (which I think is what you mean by "superlative upon the following adjective") for emphasis of something bad... and eventually started getting used for emphasis regardless of whether it was emphasizing something bad or something good.

See https://www.etymonline.com/word/terrible for the original word and https://english.stackexchange.com/q...ribly-come-to-mean-very-or-exceptionally for its subsequent evolution first as a negative and then neutral (i.e. "either way") intensifier.

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Thanks for the link anotherscott, that's terribly interesting! wink

It's perhaps even more confusing (to non-native speakers) when combined with a negative, e.g. "not terribly good".

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Just to kinda get to the original topic...the VPC-1 is still listed with 10% discount (+free delivery) on that online store website (total $1664.10)...even though the "sale" ended! However, it happened to me in the past that just when I hit that "order" button the site gave me an error, i.e. the business retracted from that offer. I'm tempted to order it, but since the store itself is in NY, I'd have a hard time returning it.

I want to try Casio GP300, I saw videos from Bonners and the keys are SUPER long and it looks very nice (also the moving hammers one sees when the lid is open are cute). However...
1) (most disconcerting) I heard people here on PW complain a lot about GP300 (cheap build quality, wobble, bad sound...), so in that case it's not worth that price
2) from what I seen it lacks escapement. Again, one can argue how useful the escapement notch is since 99.999% of interacting with piano is spent by pressing keys so that they make an actual sound, not playing around with notch so slight that it won't even make a sound... (I found escapement on Kawai GF also very slight)


I wish there were stores like Bonners in the US smirk Bonners seem to have EVERYTHING, mainly high-end Casio, Yamaha and Kawai.

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GP300 isn’t worth it IMO. Try again the VPC1 if possible again to see if it’s heavy enough. I don’t think it’s heavier feeling than the P515. From there on you should try Fatar keyboards just for reference, also CLP-675 although it’s expensive. Of course DS88 as you seem to like it.


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