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Help. After lots of research into what DP to get, I started to really look forward to getting a Kawai CN37(or maybe ES8 or MP7SE, but it's the same action so I'd assume it doesn't matter) But then I learned that it's a common occurrence that their keys start clicking after a while, and who wants that?? I'm now too afraid of that issue to order one. Any solutions, ideas or alternative DP recommendations(Kawai if possible, I like their Pianos alot) ?
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For what it's worth, I have an ES8, it has been played almost every day for 2 years, no clicking issues.😊
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If you like the Kawai Shigeru piano sound, have you looked at the MP11SE? That has a far superior action (GF2) and have not seen reports of clicking sounds, albeit it is only just shy of being a year old...
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I had a Kawai ES7 and then the ES8 over a period of about 3 years without a click.
I now have a Kawai MP11SE and no clicking.
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I had a Kawai ES7 and then the ES8 over a period of about 3 years without a click.
I now have a Kawai MP11SE and no clicking.
Don: what were the issues you developed on the es7, Es8 if it were not the clicking?
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I had a Kawai ES7 and then the ES8 over a period of about 3 years without a click.
I now have a Kawai MP11SE and no clicking.
Don: what were the issues you developed on the es7, Es8 if it were not the clicking? Some of the keys stopped sounding here and there.
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I had a Kawai ES7 and then the ES8 over a period of about 3 years without a click.
I now have a Kawai MP11SE and no clicking.
Don: what were the issues you developed on the es7, Es8 if it were not the clicking? Some of the keys stopped sounding here and there. Don, so you had three Kawai ES models that developed issues? Didn’t you have an ES8 you ordered, and immediately returned prior to the MP11SE? What was the issue with the third one?
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Don, so you had three Kawai ES models that developed issues? I guess. Nothing major but the a few keys would periodically not sound. Most of the work was done under warranty. Then I thought I would give the Yamaha P515 a try because I have a local Yamaha dealer. So, I sold my ES8. Then, I found I could not live with the P515 sound so I returned it and realized I had made a mistake by selling the ES8 so I ordered a new one. Then I purchased the Casio PX-150 because the ES8 was back ordered with no expected ship date. I can't live without a piano. LOL …. Then I found that the Casio PX150 was so good I questioned repurchasing the ES8 …. so I cancelled the order. Of course, after a bit …. and reading all the accolades about the MP11SE …. I decided to get that one. The MP11SE is the real deal. I could not be happier with it.
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.... Jeff â–«ï¸ Yamaha P515 â–«ï¸ Roll Tide
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Oh nevermind, i found the post. It was apparently “some stuck keys†on the third Kawai ES . . .
Oh, that is right. I forgot that I actually received a new ES8 but it had some keys that were frozen. That was when I purchased the Casio PX-160 to use temporarily while I waited for the replacement of the ES8. Then after I received the Casio …. I cancelled the ES8 replacement order.
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I bough ES8 from a guy who used to gig with it for 3 years. Now I have it for around 6 months, playing extensively around 1h everyday. No issues with keybed, no clicking, no woobling keys, MIDI signals are being sent properly for all 88 keys.
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Check your fingernails. I thought I had clicking issues with my CA97 a while back, but it turned out to be my fingernails hitting the keys. I keep them filed right down now and no more clicking.
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Get one of Kawai's higher end DPs.
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If you buy a Roland, I believe they come with a 10-year warranty. That should give you peace of mind.
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The new Rolands can be set to ‘do not disturb’ or to ‘vibrating mode.’ When set to vibrate, the keys will vibrate under your fingers for incoming calls. Press the lowest A to accept the call or the highest C to decline. I can’t believe Yamaha/Kawai passed on this awesome feature!
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The new Rolands can be set to ‘do not disturb’ or to ‘vibrating mode.’ When set to vibrate, the keys will vibrate under your fingers for incoming calls. Press the lowest A to accept the call or the highest C to decline. I can’t believe Yamaha/Kawai passed on this awesome feature! What a cool advert that would make - can't believe Roland missed out on that! Pianist (intensely playing Rachmaninoff Prelude in G min) RING RING...RING RING...(keys vibrate under the pianist fingers) Pianist swiftly hits the highest C... ...ah bliss the playing continues..
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What a cool advert that would make - can't believe Roland missed out on that! Pianist (intensely playing Rachmaninoff Prelude in G min) RING RING...RING RING...(keys vibrate under the pianist fingers) Pianist swiftly hits the highest C... ...ah bliss the playing continues.. Advert 2 (another incoming call)... Pianist starts playing Liszt's La Campanella as they receive an incoming call... ..inadvertently pianist hits the highest C (e.g. intro of La Campanella) Pianist slams the piano as they really needed to answer that call...
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Does that Roland have airplane mode?
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I well know the feeling of concern that one gets when they buy a new digital piano and discover noisy key issues immediately. It can make you feel sick in your stomach or wonder whether you are imagining things, or over-reacting...because I guess we all expect perfection and no issues, especially when we buy something new, and after much consideration. I bought a Kawai MP7 new way back in Feb 2015, after much careful analysis and comparison with other brands (I had been a Roland fan for many years), but felt the MP7 had the features and sounds that I preferred, and at a price I could afford. Some people thought I was crazy buying a Kawai, as there was quite a buzz about various supposed quality control issues. To my dismay, my brand new MP7 had issues, including 2 or 3 clicky keys. KAWAI asked me to wait a while to see if thing improved, but also suggested that I should focus on the great piano sound and the joy of playing, rather than being hung up on noisy keys. And yes, I loved the piano sound and the feel of the key action, but I could never totally get the clicky keys out of my mind. Unfortunately my MP7 developed some other minor problems, and the unit was sent to local authorised technician to sort it out. The keys issue wasn't sorted however, and in fact my MP7 was cosmetically damaged by the technician. I was getting that sick feeling in the stomach all over again! However, KAWAI Australia were exceptionally considerate and responsive and eventually offered to send me a new replacement MP7. Although I was exceedingly grateful, I questioned what KAWAI would do if the keys on my replacement MP7 made noises. The answer was that KAWAI would refund my $$$. This was somewhat bittersweet, as I really wanted a good MP7. Anyway, I got the new MP7, and you guessed it...noisy keys straight away...even after the KAWAI Manager had personally selected the replacement unit. I didn't want my $$$ back, as I really love the MP7, so I chose to keep it, and after all it has a 5 year warranty in Australia. And here we are in March 2019, and yes, those keys still make a noise, but no worse than when new, and sometimes other keys make intermittent odd noises, but I have come to the realisation that key noise issues afflict most brands, even other premium brands, for we are dealing with mechanical keybeds with many components. There will always be an inherent amount of keybed noise that is not an actual fault or manufacturing defect. If you get notes dropping out or not sounding, or keys making clanking noises, yes, that's real cause for concern, but if you have some mild clicking that does not worsen, and only occurs on a few keys...it may be well worth putting up with, if you really like the instrument. But, no harm in getting things checked during your warranty period. I recently went to 2 music stores and played premium brand digital pianos....and ALL of them had key noise issues...so as I say, some of it is naturally inherent. Acoustic pianos are not silent either. All the best to anyone who is stressed about noisy key issues.
1993 Roland JV1000 76 note workstation synth with Pop and VE-GS1 expansion boards ] 1994 Roland JV1080 Multi-timbral sound module ] 1994 Roland KR4500 Intelligent Piano ] 2008 Korg MicroX sound module ] 2015 Kawai MP7 Digital Stage Piano
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