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Thanks TS! All of that information is useful. What are you using for a headphone amp and mixer? I could put the outputs from a mixer into my stereo and use the headphone out jack from my preamp and see how that sounds.
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Today, I received the Yamaha P-515! It's nice, I am happy that I bought it.
I hooked up PianoMarvel to the new keyboard. The first time I tried PM, it would not recognize the keyboard. I rebooted my MacBook Pro and then it worked. Maybe it somehow remembered my old keyboard? This happens all the time to me for my piano computer which is Win10Pro. Never been able to cure it. I usually just rebook my computer and it resolves it. A couple of times, I've had to reboot the DP too. I would be very interested if anyone found what is the cause of this or the "proper solution" that makes rebooting unnecessary since it is inconvenient and takes time. On the other hand, I usually leave my computer on all the time, and the typical time this happens for me is when I turn the DP off - say to clean the keys, for example. I hooked up the sound output from the MacBook to the Aux Input on the P-515 using a 3.5mm jack. Everything works as before, but it seems to me that the PianoMarvel count in voice is kind of distorted. I don't believe I hear this distortion when listening to YouTube videos on the laptop. I tried turning the volume down on my laptop, but it does not seem to make a difference. Has anybody else noticed this? I don't think I hear distortion in the accompaniment. I personally avoid by using a small mixing board that mixes the output of the piano with the output of my piano computer, and this is then fed to my headphone amp and headphones. I just figure that piano's amps were tuned for piano output. Why would I want to put voice through it? I installed the trial version of Pianoteq 6 and I can see how that is going to be a lot of fun. I think I'll buy it. Am I right in assuming it is sending the sounds back through the USB cable or is it using the audio output? I don't know about sending sounds back via USB. I suppose it is possible if one has the right drivers installed. In my case, the signal is sent via an audio output, and not so long ago, I got an external audio interface for the computer so that the ASIO driver would not block the audio channel from other apps using it (say PM, etc.). But I don't have P515. I believe the P515 has a special audio interface, so it may actually work via USB, as you suggested. Do I need to turn off Local Control? Yes. Ok, I turned off Local Control so I can hear the sound generated by Pianoteq. The trouble is that the level is very low and I can't figure out how to boost it. There is probably an option in the keyboard menu somewhere. Any ideas? Also, I unplugged the 3.5m jack from my MacBook Pro and I still got sound so it can send sound back through the USB cable to the keyboard. I went into the Settings app, Sound option, and Digital Piano shows up under sound outputs so that seems to be working fine. I'm not too worried about the distortion in the count down voice, I was just checking to see if that problem showed up in other places.
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The trouble is that the level is very low and I can't figure out how to boost it. There is probably an option in the keyboard menu somewhere. Any ideas? This is probably some setting on the P515. Perhaps if you post to this thread here or start a new one on the digital forum? There are a number of P515 people there.
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Do I need to turn off Local Control? Yes. I don't I have a Kawai CA67 and feed the output from Piano Marvel into a (separate) line in port on the CA67 which then mixes the sound from the piano with the incoming sound from PM. I mostly listen to the result through headphones connected directly to the piano. Strangely I have never detected any problems with either distortion or latency. I do have the benefit that the CA67 has a separate volume control for line in so I can mix the volumes how I want, not sure what the P515 might have
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The trouble is that the level is very low and I can't figure out how to boost it. There is probably an option in the keyboard menu somewhere. Any ideas? This is probably some setting on the P515. Perhaps if you post to this thread here or start a new one on the digital forum? There are a number of P515 people there. I believe the only control over the output is from the Sound section in Settings on my Mac. I have it working ok now and was able to raise the levels.
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Do I need to turn off Local Control? Yes. I don't I have a Kawai CA67 and feed the output from Piano Marvel into a (separate) line in port on the CA67 which then mixes the sound from the piano with the incoming sound from PM. I mostly listen to the result through headphones connected directly to the piano. Strangely I have never detected any problems with either distortion or latency. I do have the benefit that the CA67 has a separate volume control for line in so I can mix the volumes how I want, not sure what the P515 might have I was using a separate 3.5mm cable from the headphone jack into a separate line in port, as you are doing, but I figured out that I don't need to do that. I can choose the Digital Piano/USB cable interface as the Sound output device from my Mac and all sound from the Mac goes through the keyboard. Pretty nifty. I guess this is a capability in a USB to Host interface. As I mentioned above, I can change the level of sound output from the Mac side, and I have a main volume slider on the P-515. Pianoteq throws in their own volume slider and a dynamic range switch, I believe. There are lots of controls to play with. I haven't detected latency, it was just the voice that seemed weird. Maybe I've stopped noticing it.
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Do I need to turn off Local Control? Yes. I don't I don't believe you are using a VST, are you? LarryK has to turn off MIDI "Local Control", not because of his Piano Marvel, but because as an alternative he is using a VST, Pianoteq, as his sound generator instead of the built-in sound generator in his piano. Turning off the MIDI "Local Control" effectively turns his P515 into a MIDI Controller where the sound is generated on his computer instead of in the synthesizer/keyboard itself. ![[Linked Image]](http://www.iub.edu/~emusic/361-old/images/localcontrol.png)
across the stone, deathless piano performances "Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano "Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person "Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
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I’m up and running with Pianoteq. Yes, Local Control needs to be turned off.
To start, I bought the Stage edition and chose the Blüthner and the Steinway Model B instrument packs. It’s fun to be able to change the sound. I own two standard scale classical guitars, one a cedar top and one a spruce top. I alternate between them, switching each day, to hear a different sound. I see myself doing the same sort of thing with Pianoteq.
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Are these works:
"Kinderszenen" and "Album für die Jugend"
by Robert Schumann in PianoMarvel?
Somebody recommended these pieces for first year students.
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No, but there is Bela Bartok Mikrokosmos...also good for beginners. If you typ Schumann in the search /library, you find everything there is.
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Thank you Eli Now that I am no longer obliged to always get 100% in technique I fly true. Those 100% fetch was for me always more luck (by handicap) than knowledge. I'm really happy with that decision. And The crazy thing is, now all that stress (and pain) is falling off I sometimes get still 100%... That's so crazy.
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No, but there is Bela Bartok Mikrokosmos...also good for beginners. If you typ Schumann in the search /library, you find everything there is. I’ve worked my way through the first sixteen exercises in volume I of Mikrokosmos. They’re cleverly difficult. I did search for those Schumann pieces but didn’t find them. I only asked because I also searched for Mikrokosmos and didn’t find it but you nice people told me it was in there. Maybe I misspelled it. Perhaps I’ll send the Schumann pieces in to PM’s music editor.
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You can also search at https://imslp.org/ but maybe you know that already
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Yes, I know about that. The trouble is finding the time to write them in. It’s more convenient when they’re already in the library.
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Perhaps I’ll send the Schumann pieces in to PM’s music editor. Yes, do that! They are constantly adding new stuff, and anything out of copyright already is fair game for the library
across the stone, deathless piano performances "Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano "Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person "Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
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Perhaps I’ll send the Schumann pieces in to PM’s music editor. Yes, do that! They are constantly adding new stuff, and anything out of copyright already is fair game for the library Ok, I did, I sent them scans of the two books I mentioned. Perhaps they have a better way of getting the music in the library than my writing the pieces up with StaffPad.
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I just got the following message from Piano Marvel: 3. Sight Reading Challenge in May! Be ready to help your students participate in a game changing 30 days that will help them become stellar sight readers. Do all of your students have an account set up so you will easily be able to track their progress? I'll be interested to see how the Sight Reading Challenge works. I'll probably participate in this one given my underdeveloped sight reading skills.
across the stone, deathless piano performances "Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano "Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person "Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
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I just got the following message from Piano Marvel: 3. Sight Reading Challenge in May! Be ready to help your students participate in a game changing 30 days that will help them become stellar sight readers. Do all of your students have an account set up so you will easily be able to track their progress? I'll be interested to see how the Sight Reading Challenge works. I'll probably participate in this one given my underdeveloped sight reading skills. I suppose it will be just SASR or a few new bootcamps... I don't expect much from it.
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Sorry I did not read through this whole thread but does anyone know if I can listen to my piano and Piano Marvel on iPad through my headphones at the same time?
I have 2 headphone jacks on my Casio Privia PX-735 and when I have my headphones on, I cannot hear Piano Marvel. I am using a USB to iPad cable.
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Yes, you need a cable from the headphone jack on the iPad to the keyboard.
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