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Originally Posted by RMdP74
In order of preference: #1, #3 and then #2.

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Originally Posted by squidbot
1 was also my favorite. 2&3 were pretty equal. Wish I could have heard in person. Who knows what was lost by YouTube compression.


Thanks for the response and good point about YouTube compression.


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Originally Posted by Hakki
1. Steingraber
2. ??
3. Steinway


Any preferences?


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Originally Posted by NobleHouse
I liked 2, then 1 and 3. But as some others stated, all three sounded fine and I would happily accept any of the three.


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Originally Posted by WimPiano
#1, #2, #3
I prefer the bass of the #2 over the #1. In general I like the clarity of #2, the warmth of #1, the #3 had a sharper, brighter tone. I think I could like #3 in isolation but probably for other repertoire than #1 and #2.


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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
I can't hear much difference but maybe that's because I'm just listening on my laprtop's speakers. I hope I could hear a difference listening in your showroom.


Listen with some headphones on your laptop. You should hear some difference.


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Originally Posted by j&j
They all sound great. My taste says:
#3
#1
#2


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Originally Posted by iLaw
Right now, I'd have to say 3, 1, 2. But I think 1 is the most intriguing and potential-filled of the three, and with a little work to brighten it up a bit would almost certainly go to the top of my list.

I really want to know what they are!

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Thank you for your response. I can't wait to reveal but this part is awfully fun!


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Originally Posted by Sanfrancisco
This is a great study which illustrates not only how varied 3 different quality piano's scalings can be but also how different our aural preferences are. I like the definition of 2 best. It's like fine wines, there is no "best" piano in the world. I am interested in how we are conditioned to prefer certain sounds. I met a Polish professional pianist who for all of her developing years played "European" pianos. When she first played a NYS&S years later she immediately fell in love with the lush sound. I went exactly in the opposite direction.




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Originally Posted by jarobi
I could be happy with any of the three, but my choices are:

#2
#1
#3


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They all sound quite wonderful - but ultimately #2 has a clear but complex sound that really appeals to me.

#2
#3
#1

The pianist is excellent. I hope you'll be able to reveal his/her name.


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Originally Posted by Keith D Kerman
Originally Posted by Hakki
1. Steingraber
2. ??
3. Steinway


Any preferences?
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No. 2 or 3.
The recording technique of no.1 sounded different so I could not make a direct comparison.

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Recording technique was identical for each piano.


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Originally Posted by noyes
I would also like to ask, can most of you determine how much you like a piano within the first 10 to 15 seconds of listening to it, or as the more you listen your preference may change? And what is your piano background?

Here are my answers to my own questions:

I am a beginner player. I have been a music lover all my life but just recently started taking piano lessons several months ago. Within the first few seconds I obtain a rough ballpark impression whether I "like" or "dislike" the sound, but then unable to get a further more accurate assessment, or a ranking. When I first listened to the three soundtracks I liked 1 the most. A few minutes in I thought 3 was also good. Then I started over and listened once again this time 2 sounded not bad either. At this point I have no answer, my "rankings" continue to change like weather.



It is not at all necessary to like one more than the other. Listening and noticing differences and similarities is fine as is noticing your own changing taste or even awareness of what is going on with different pianos.


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Originally Posted by Keith D Kerman
Originally Posted by Ed McMorrow, RPT
I like 2 slightly better than 3 and find 1 to be indistinct and clumsy sounding.

But hearing this piece makes me remember how simply wonderful my wife can play it. I may have to set her to task if she is willing so I can hear it on my concert grand.


Thanks for your opinion! It is really charming how much you like your wife's playing.

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All 3 did sound very similar today ,but I guess I will still go with no 2

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Originally Posted by Keith D Kerman
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I had time to only listen to the beginning, but my first impression is that I would prefer nr 1.


I hope you get a bit more time to listen more thoroughly to each and see if that impression holds.


There are some harsh overtones in 2 and 3. Don't know if those could be diminished with more work? I listened with a hifi-system.

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So when do we get the "reveal"?



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Originally Posted by NobleHouse
So when do we get the "reveal"?


Soon!


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I believe that PianoCraft carries the new Baldwin line, and that they might have the new Baldwin 7' in stock. I wonder if one of them is that piano....

Wouldn't be surprised if #1 is the rebuilt Steinway C, though.

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I don't think the #1 is a Steinway. It reminds me more of Steingraeber but a touch warmer, even thought about Bechstein but the treble seems different.
Anyway, it's mere speculation although I would be very suprised if #1 turned out to be Yamaha.

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