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Never tried a PX-870, but I owned a PX-860 and my issues with the keyboard were 'bounce' and mechanical noise, if I played at low volume or with headphones.

From these two posts, sounds like those issues may have been addressed with the new 1000/3000 keyboard:

https://yamahamusicians.com/forum/v...59436d802df02e250e3&start=195#p75338

https://yamahamusicians.com/forum/v...59436d802df02e250e3&start=195#p75349

I did love the sound of the 860. And this post indicates the 1000/3000 sound may be even better:

https://yamahamusicians.com/forum/v...59436d802df02e250e3&start=195#p75351

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It suppose to replace the px-160 and px-350, the software inside is no different than these models


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It is sad they have so much new technology but always cherry pick. For Example the PX-S3000 doesn't use the new AIX sounds from CT-X but rather the old ones from CDP keyboards.
I assume you're talking about the non-piano sounds. It is possible that AiX and AiR are not similar enough to be easily (or cost effectively) built into the same keyboard. That said, how do you know the sounds come from the CDP (Dual-element AHL)? I don't think they've used those in a Privia in something like 15 years, you'd have to go back to the PX-100 series.


It seems that the S3000 in fact has the AiX sounds from the ct-x. The casio web site is now awfully lacking in clear system with so many models and engines or some sort of proper comparison table. There are many upgrades/downgrades and sidegrades between models and it is not obvious which are in fact top models or how the s1000 compares with say PX870 etc...

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On the casio forum I've been told by mike martin that the S1000 has an entirely new engine from the PX-870 and does sound differently (similar but not the same). So after recycling the same sound for generations, now they changing it too fast. The last year PX-870 with improved engine is not yet in Costco and there is already a new privia on the horizon with a newer engine. I was going to upgrade to PX-870 but now I think I will wait for new gen console piano from casio.

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The first digital piano I bought (I am relatively young perhaps compared to many here) was a PX330. I had just gotten my first real job and was looking for a digital piano. I'd never really thought of Casio but was very, very impressed in the store. What really sold me on it over other brands was the lower register, which had a powerful, metallic (in a good way) sound that just reminded me of a real piano.

Unfortunately, once I had it home I quickly soured on it because there was this very unpleasant sound in the octave and a half or so above middle C, especially that A above middle C. It's hard to describe but it was this very harsh, almost-buzzing-but-not-really sound in the sustain. Over time it became very difficult to listen to so first I bought Ivory and used it as a controller, and eventually I saved up some more money and traded it in for an RD-700NX.

Still, there was a lot I liked about that piano and about other Casios I would see in the store over the years. They really do a nice job with the visual aesthetic/design of their instruments and I have been tempted to buy another Casio just from that design several times. What's always kept me from it has been that when I play in that middle register and let the note ring out, that awful buzz/ringing comes through loud and clear. I keep hoping they'll get rid of that because otherwise I do like their sounds. The most recent one I tried was the PX-5S and that still had it to my ear. I wonder if this round it will be gone. Judging from youtube videos, I think it's still there, but it's hard to say so I look forward to trying one myself.

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I’m possibly in the market for relatively cheap and very lightweight/slim stage piano for gigging with friends and these new models tick many boxes. What’s the actual difference between S1000 and S3000?


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I’m possibly in the market for relatively cheap and very lightweight/slim stage piano for gigging with friends and these new models tick many boxes. What’s the actual difference between S1000 and S3000?


The PX-S3000 is got 700 tones vs 18 on the PX-S1000. It also has 200 rhythms, two knobs and a slider, and an LCD screen. It also has controls that makes selecting different sounds and effects easier as opposed to the PX-S1000's pressing combinations of the piano keys and buttons to access these functions. If I were to buy one tomorrow, I'd definitely get a PX-S3000. Or better yet wait for a higher end model (PX-S5000???) with even more functionality.



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Some big ones... S1000 has 18 sounds vs 700 sounds in the S3000. S3000 also has pitch bend wheel, assignable knobs, built-in rhythms/accompaniment.

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I read on this Kraftmusic page that the PX-S3000 has USB audio recording and playback. But I haven't seen the manual for the PX-S3000. The USB Audio feature is also not listed on the casio website. at least not yet.

I also heard that an even higher end Privia will be released later in the year. If the action is acceptable I'll be tempted to get either the PX-S3000 or that mystery higher end privia (PX-S5000?)


Correction: The PX-S3000 does NOT have a USB audio interface. Just audio recording to .wav files onto a USB flash drive



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I’m possibly in the market for relatively cheap and very lightweight/slim stage piano for gigging with friends and these new models tick many boxes. What’s the actual difference between S1000 and S3000?


The PX-S3000 is got 700 tones vs 18 on the PX-S1000. It also has 200 rhythms, two knobs and a slider, and an LCD screen. It also has controls that makes selecting different sounds and effects easier as opposed to the PX-S1000's pressing combinations of the piano keys and buttons to access these functions. If I were to buy one tomorrow, I'd definitely get a PX-S3000. Or better yet wait for a higher end model (PX-S5000???) with even more functionality.


Correction: not a slider....I meant a pitch bend wheel!!!!



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The pivot point doesn't look too good.


And you can't change the laws of physics with any "smart" software no matter how "smart" it is. smile

Indeed. And it doesn't matter, if it's playable near the pivot. When you play the white keys at the fallboard and the black keys at the front (depending on hand geometry), short pivot physics create a large difference in key weight, which is going to feel and sound bad.

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I highly doubt that the PXS-1000/3000's action is going to be better than that of the P515, ES8, FP-90 or MP11SE. I think that would be an unfair expectation. But if it is better than other actions found in similarly priced and similarly sized DPs such as the P-125, FP-10/30 or the Numa Compact 2X, I'd declare it a win for Casio.

Kawai managed to put this into a very compact enclosure without charging more than $800:

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The control panel just hovers above the keys.


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Originally Posted by CyberGene
I’m possibly in the market for relatively cheap and very lightweight/slim stage piano for gigging with friends and these new models tick many boxes. What’s the actual difference between S1000 and S3000?


The PX-S3000 is got 700 tones vs 18 on the PX-S1000. It also has 200 rhythms, two knobs and a slider, and an LCD screen. It also has controls that makes selecting different sounds and effects easier as opposed to the PX-S1000's pressing combinations of the piano keys and buttons to access these functions. If I were to buy one tomorrow, I'd definitely get a PX-S3000. Or better yet wait for a higher end model (PX-S5000???) with even more functionality.

Thanks. Wondering if there will be a PX-5S replacement too. I like the idea of PX-5S but never liked their piano and electric piano sounds. If they improve those and keep the advanced features such as hex-layer editing and huge array of effects it would be a killer one.


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You can order PX-S3000 for 1000$ in Russia: https://mospiano.ru/goods/Casio-PX-S3000BK?from=ZGMz&mod_id=174307259
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Originally Posted by CyberGene
Wondering if there will be a PX-5S replacement too. I like the idea of PX-5S but never liked their piano and electric piano sounds.

Casio rep Mike Martin in another forum implied that we might see something like that in about a year. But AFAIK, the PX-5S still has Casio's best EPs thus far, esp. with the Dave Weiser designed free downloads available for it, which Mike said are also being made available for the PX560. Those are hexlayer based, so we wouldn't see those for these new models, but they have talked about these new models having a strong Wurli, at least.

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Originally Posted by PianoStartsAt33
You can order PX-S3000 for 1000$ in Russia: https://mospiano.ru/goods/Casio-PX-S3000BK?from=ZGMz&mod_id=174307259
What about your regions, guys?

I'm only seeing pre-orders here in the USA so far. Musician's Friend, for example, has the PX-S1000 for $599, the PX-S3000 for $799, and the CDP-350 for $499.


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The Casio PX-S3000 won best in show at Winter NAMM 2019


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The Casio PX-S3000 won best in show at Winter NAMM 2019

Silly judges: don't they know we already used physics upthread to prove that it's a bad piano?! wink laugh


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Hello all,

So, I was all set to order my ES110 tomorrow (my very first piano!) but now I've found out about these… I don't know. Is it maybe worth waiting until they are available, I wonder? I am using a Yamaha DGX-640 at the moment (not mince). My main intent is to never use the frills and all the functions, just to learn to play on a DP that is as close as possible to an acoustic (feel, sound). It also needs to be lightweight, and it seems quite good to me that these Casios can record onto USB, which I do regularly (it would be more fiddly on the ES110, I gathered).

Is there no set date for when these will be available? Are they worth the wait? Anyone actually seen one in the flesh (or plastic…)? Thanks!

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Musician's Friend lists the PX-S3000 as expected in late April. Take that for what it's worth ...


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Hello all,

So, I was all set to order my ES110 tomorrow (my very first piano!) but now I've found out about these… I don't know. Is it maybe worth waiting until they are available, I wonder? I am using a Yamaha DGX-640 at the moment (not mince). My main intent is to never use the frills and all the functions, just to learn to play on a DP that is as close as possible to an acoustic (feel, sound). It also needs to be lightweight, and it seems quite good to me that these Casios can record onto USB, which I do regularly (it would be more fiddly on the ES110, I gathered).

Is there no set date for when these will be available? Are they worth the wait? Anyone actually seen one in the flesh (or plastic…)? Thanks!

Can you continue to borrow the Yamaha DGX-640 for a while longer? Because if you need to give it back, your hands may be tied. Also, consider if you are traveling extensively through Europe the possibility it might be cheaper to buy piano in one of the other locations where you will be.


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