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Originally Posted by Halaa
I've been very much enjoying the program and am picking up sight reading at a rather quick pace! My only harrumph so far is when you are required to play at a very slow 40bpm tempo in method. I find I make more mistakes with a slower tempo than I do with a faster tempo! I'm not sure if it's that I've got trigger fingers, but I have been manually changing the tempo to 60 in those exercises to save myself some sanity. whistle


Same here, in practice mode I skip the slowest version because I fail it every time. Only when the fingering is difficult I use the "prepare"...and then the slow.


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So I have a message on my Piano Marvel today saying I have a free 30 day trial of premium with 21 days left, and have access to 2000 songs. However when I go to the library, almost everything is still locked. Anyone else having this?

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Originally Posted by Halaa
So I have a message on my Piano Marvel today saying I have a free 30 day trial of premium with 21 days left, and have access to 2000 songs. However when I go to the library, almost everything is still locked. Anyone else having this?

I'm a subscriber so I don't get this message. You can send a message to customer support and they will get back to you within 24 hours or so.


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Thanks! I found them on Facebook and shot them a message, they respond quickly. I have sent my issue and I hope for a quick response..I don't need the unlocked library, but it would be fun to see everything they have to offer! They have loads of Disney songs that definitely interest me grin

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Originally Posted by Halaa
Thanks! I found them on Facebook and shot them a message, they respond quickly. I have sent my issue and I hope for a quick response..I don't need the unlocked library, but it would be fun to see everything they have to offer! They have loads of Disney songs that definitely interest me grin

I remeber the first days on Marvel, i could see all the songs, but play only the free ones. Do you use the new library or the old one? New one has tabs, click "all" ?

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Hi guys, I found a great exercise in the library. "Piano Method 2E" Ideal for beginners or people who have problems reading notes smile They are flascards left and right hand but at an insane speed. Definitely give it a try, I did 2 days before I had the first two exercises 100% in every speed pfffffffff, so hard.


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@Tyrone, I see you as the specialist in uploading music, hence the question. Is it possible to also upload background music, like in the lessons of Marvel? Or can you send that question to the technical staff? I tried to give the orchestra accompaniment as a MIDI file, and then as XML the piano notes, but that does not work frown
Thanks for the help.


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Originally Posted by Sarah65
@Tyrone, I see you as the specialist in uploading music, hence the question. Is it possible to also upload background music, like in the lessons of Marvel? Or can you send that question to the technical staff? I tried to give the orchestra accompaniment as a MIDI file, and then as XML the piano notes, but that does not work frown
Thanks for the help.

Yes, this works. Just yesterday, I was doing a 4-handed duet that was breaking my head trying to learn it. I've only ever tried it when both the piano part and anything else is on the same score. I create a midi file of the entire thing and uploaded just the MusicXML file for one part but the MIDI file for both. It works fine. I've shared it with you in PM just now. Take a look yourself. I can email you the original Musescore version of the score too if you want to try it for yourself.


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Tyrone Slothrop thank you very much.

It's a shame that PianoMarvel Administrator doesn't allow to try the xml upload option if you are not a premium member.

Could you, please, tell me how work the Right and Left Hand function with your xml upload?

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Originally Posted by Angelos58
Tyrone Slothrop thank you very much.

It's a shame that PianoMarvel Administrator doesn't allow to try the xml upload option if you are not a premium member.

Yeah, this is clearly a premium feature. It's a very powerful feature too. It literally is the only feature I've used in PM for the last 4 months or so. I continue to subscribe because of this feature. In my book, it is an incredible practice feature, and is worth the couple of dollars a month it costs to keep my PM account alive for this feature.

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Could you, please, tell me how work the Right and Left Hand function with your xml upload?

If I understand you correctly, you are asking how one would "mince" a piece so you can practice hands separate, right? Well, taking my example of a piece with some background music which I discussed with Sarah65 above:
  • Go to the library
  • Click on the "Upload" button (either lower left or upper right depending on which interface you are using)
  • On the Upload window, either use the "+ Upload New Song Beta" button on the lower left to upload a new piece, or edit a piece you've already uploaded by clicking on the the circled pencil icon in the 6th column of the piece you want to edit (you can only edit pieces you uploaded yourself)
  • You will then see the edit song window (it will be called "New Song" when you are uploading the piece for the first time, although it will be almost, but not exactly identical - won't have the "XML Key Signature" field).
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  • After setting up the left and right of this window to you satisfaction, you can click on the "Create or Edit Practice Mode" button on the lower right. You then end up in the edit exercises window.
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  • To add a minced exercise (hands separate practice), click on the "+Add Exercise" button on the lower left of the "Minced" column on the right. You are now in the "Edit Exercise" window (also called "New Exercise" if you are making a new exercise). See below. As you can see below, you can set up some things for your exercise, including 3 different tempi to use and whether the exercise is for left hand, right hand, or both. You can set up the starting point and ending point of the exercise (points are not beats, but similar - see the videos I linked above in my message to GidgetKeys, for fuller explanation). In the example below, I created a simple exercise with measures 1 & 2, for my right hand only, and with 3 different tempi.
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  • Click on the "Save" button at the bottom and you return to the "Edit Exercises" window where you can see the new exercise you created.
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  • When done with all exercises, click the "Done" button at the bottom of the "Edit Exercises" window, and the "Save" button on the "Edit Song" window.

That's it.


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Thank you very much again.

But, the Right Hand could be part on violin staff and part on bass staff. How can PianoMarvel knows that?

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Originally Posted by Angelos58
Thank you very much again.

But, the Right Hand could be part on violin staff and part on bass staff. How can PianoMarvel knows that?

Pretty sure it is not true right hand vs left hand but only upper staff vs lower staff. In my example, since is a piano duet for 4-hands, both of the staves for the Primo part are treble clefs. But you can send a message to Tech Support and ask.

I don't believe MusicXML format actually has an official notation convention for left vs right hand notes, so I don't think there is any way for PM to know for sure besides using the upper vs lower staff convention.

That said, if this was important to me, I would use MuseScore to just move any notes on the wrong clef (for example, a left hand note on the upper clef) to the right clef associated with the handedness. This sort of score tweaking is nothing new in working with PM. I already described to GidgetKeys above how repeat sections have to be duplicated, for example, because of limitations of PM - repeats don't work (yet).


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Thank you, but if I assign, instead of change clef, all hand right notes to one midi channel and all left hand notes to another midi channel .....

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Originally Posted by Angelos58
Thank you, but if I assign, instead of change clef, all hand right notes to one midi channel and all left hand notes to another midi channel .....

You should ask PM Tech Support. My guess is the MIDI file is only used for the background music. Otherwise if this weren't true, then my example to Sarah65 would just not work. (My example being having MIDI file with background music and notes that were not in the MusicXML file.) So my guess is that if you did that, it would play and PM would otherwise ignore which notes were in which channel. Again, ask PM about this, but this is my guess based on evidence I've seen (such as having a Secondo part full of notes in the MIDI file but not in the MusicXML file in the example I gave Sarah65).


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Very kind of you, I'll ask PM Tech Support.

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PianoMarvel answer:
"So you will need to put the higher line into the right hand part in a notation software. It makes it harder to read but that’s how it can be possible in Piano Marvel"

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Originally Posted by Angelos58
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"So you will need to put the higher line into the right hand part in a notation software. It makes it harder to read but that’s how it can be possible in Piano Marvel"

Haha. I guessed right! grin I should be doing PM tech support at this point! LOL


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Originally Posted by Angelos58
PianoMarvel answer:
"So you will need to put the higher line into the right hand part in a notation software. It makes it harder to read but that’s how it can be possible in Piano Marvel"

Haha. I guessed right! grin I should be doing PM tech support at this point! LOL



Yes, thank you.

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