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Hi All,

So far, I've gotten the first page and a half down relatively well. However, this next section is rather troublesome for me when putting the hands together(shown in the screenshot in the link below):

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I was wondering if anyone here had any tips on how to approach this (besides the obvious slow practice), and I'd much appreciate it if someone who has already played this piece or a very similar one (technique wise) gave me their tips on how they learned it. Thanks for your help!

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"Troublesome" doesn't say what your problems are. Surely, if you are working on a piece of this level of difficulty, if you don't have solutions to your problem, you should at least be able to articulate them clearly.

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Yeah you must state clearly what seems to be the problem, chords? Maybe end of first line with right hand?

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I wrote "troublesome when putting the hands together" because I assumed you would be able to infer that while being able to play it hands separate, I have problems when putting them together, but allow me to elaborate a bit further then.

Since the octaves are "contrary" in motion (example when right hand octaves ascend left hand octaves descend and vice versa), putting the hands together confuses my hands when trying to increase the tempo past around 70 bpm, and I was wondering if anyone here knew how to deal with the problem and make it easier to tackle these kinds of octave passages. Again, any advice from those who have already played this piece or a similar one technique wise would be most appreciated,

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I have a technique to practice chord sequences that may work for you. Before that though, I would recommend that you eliminate hands separate practice from your learning routine. It seems that you have run against the limitation of doing that.

To work on chord motions, and/or large leaps:
Set Metronome to 60, or however slow you need
Play the sequence in quarter notes.
Play the sequence again, but play each chord twice in eighth notes
Do the same using eighth note triplets, playing each chord three times
Again in sixteenth notes with each chord played 4 times

Once you are comfortable with that, do it again in sixteenth notes but play each chord twice - so you are moving chords in eighth notes.
Go through the whole process again at a faster metronome quarter note.

I think this works because it makes your hands move faster by giving less time to move, but still gives your mind enough time to prepare for the next chord.


Peter
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currently working on Brahms op. 10 Ballades, f-minor sonata and 2nd concerto
Mendelssohn Songs Without Words and E minor Prelude and Fugue
whatever strikes my fancy today.

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