2022 our 25th year online!

Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 3 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments.
Over 100,000 members from around the world.
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Shop our online store for music lovers
SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Pianoteq
Steinway Spiro Layering
(ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Wessell Nickel & Gross
PianoForAll
Who's Online Now
31 members (bwv543, Charles Cohen, AndrewJCW, Burkhard, CraiginNZ, Christopher90, 6 invisible), 396 guests, and 232 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
#2644028 05/16/17 09:59 AM
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 651
T
500 Post Club Member
OP Offline
500 Post Club Member
T
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 651
Prospective buyers of previously-rebuilt pianos are often told, on this forum, "If only you knew exactly what work was done", or "If only you knew who did the work". I'm curious, do any rebuilders make a point to advise clients that documentation of the rebuild (presumably included in the invoice) should be filed with estate paperwork? Or, better yet, a copy stapled to a back/bottom post?

(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 5,103
P
5000 Post Club Member
Offline
5000 Post Club Member
P
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 5,103
Tend to rush,

Funny, I just had this discussion yesterday with a client considering buying a "rebuilt" Steinway.

Its a reasonable idea. The problem is that just because something was done, does not mean that it was done WELL. Yes, I have seen less than stellar work come from some highly reputable shops, AND I have seen such high quality work done (by who knows?) That it was hard to tell that it wasn't original factory work. Plus, time and maintenance or lack of has it's effects too.

Less than a month ago I saw a Steinway O, billed as being COMPLETELY rebuilt at an auction. Yes, EVERYTHING had in fact been done to it, but it was in pretty decrepit shape due to zero maintenance as well as what looked like less than ideal workmanship.

So the long and short of it is that any serious prospective buyer of any rebuilt piano should have a competent technician/rebuilder check it out in it's current condition. A competent and honest rebuilder can spot MOST defects (if any) in the instrument. An inexperienced one, or simply a tuner, could miss a lot. It doesn't really matter if a list of what was done exists or not (not to say that it wouldn't be helpful...it would) but not really relevant to current condition.

That's my initial response to your suggestion. May change...

Pwg


Peter W. Grey, RPT
New Hampshire Seacoast
www.seacoastpianodoctor.com
pianodoctor57@gmail.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK0T7_I_nV8
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 971
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 971
I am in the process of having a concert grand completely rebuilt. My rebuilder has provided me with a 4 page work order detailing what will be done, Including manufacturer names of strings, key tops, action parts, pin block etc.. I didn't ask for it either.




Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,685
G
2000 Post Club Member
Offline
2000 Post Club Member
G
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,685
What does complete rebuild mean to the average customer?
I say it's like a new piano or better:
New soundboard/bridge system, pin block, tuning and bridge pins, action parts, felts, hammers, strings, metal parts cleaned and polished, agraffes and capo shaped, lyre rebuilt, back action replaced, damper blocks refinished, bearing set correct, action regulated, case refinished and if the rebuilder is good, factory defects corrected. There is more but the idea is that complete rebuild should really be complete, not simply new strings and hammers and action parts.
To say nothing about time to design/redesign major components.
List it all. Demand to know it all.


RPT
PTG Member

Moderated by  Piano World 

Link Copied to Clipboard
(ad)
Best of Piano Buyer
Piano Buyer - Read the Articles, Explore the website
(ad)
PianoDisc

PianoDisc
(ad)
Faust Harrison Pianos
Faust Harrison 100+ Steinway pianos
(ad)
Mason & Hamlin Pianos
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Anyone ever played this rep?
by DebussyDiva - 08/08/22 01:35 AM
Pick One
by jz112896 - 08/07/22 08:29 PM
Beethoven Op.2/3 Thirds Practice Technique
by babooshka - 08/07/22 06:42 PM
How to practice opening of Beethoven Op.2/3
by babooshka - 08/07/22 05:11 PM
Download Sheet Music
Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads
What's Hot!!
FREE June Newsletter is Here!
--------------------
Forums RULES, Terms of Service & HELP
(updated 06/06/2022)
-------------------
Music Store Going Out of Business Sale!
---------------------
Mr. PianoWorld's Original Composition
---------------------
Sell Your Piano on our world famous Piano Forums!
---------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
Forum Statistics
Forums43
Topics214,289
Posts3,214,613
Members106,029
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
Please Support Our Advertisers

Faust Harrison 100+ Steinways

Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver

 Best of Piano Buyer

PianoTeq Bechstein
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads



 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | MapleStreetMusicShop.com - Our store in Cornish Maine


© copyright 1997 - 2022 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5