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Hi,

I have a Roland FP-90. According to the specs this has 2 x 3-3/16 x 4-3/4 inches up-facing speakers, and 2 x 1" tweeters. This is in-between the dimensions of a pair of 3" monitors and 4" monitors.

Has anyone tried simply mixing in a subwoofer to their internal speakers to fill in the sound at lower frequencies? Something like the Fostex PM-SUBmini 2?

I'm reluctant to add studio monitors as I don't have much space. A sub would fit neatly on the floor.

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I have a Roland F130R and I do exactly that. The piano is in a small room and the onboard speakers sound better than the monitors I had originally hooked up. The sub adds just enough bass without being boomy. I don't remember the brand of the sub but it's an 8". The monitors are KRK 5s.

I like this set up so much, that I will probably do the same with my other keyboard. It's now hooked up to (another) sub -- this is the KRK10--with the monitors and the monitors just sound flat to me. I think I'll just use the monitors with my computer.


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Tried this with a Yamaha CVP-701 (the speakers are absolute crap at reproducing anything lower than one octave below middle C - downward facing speakers make it sound like the speakers are under a blanket). The sub only made the sound more boomy. Added a pair of small JBL bookshelf speakers (mixed with the internal sound system) and saw a MASSIVE improvement but still too boomy. Dropped the sub and added replaced the bookshelf speakers with a pair of Yamaha HS7 studio monitors (much flatter frequency response) and the sound is glorious!

I suspect even the HS5's would add a special something to your setup if the 7's were too big. A sub is really only intended for sub bass and it is extremely difficult to control these frequencies unless you have a good room with well designed treatments. That said, only a sub is going to give you that "kick in the guts" feeling like playing at a 9 foot concert grand which can be a lot of fun (for a while).

BTW: I'm a huge fan of the Yamaha HS series of studio monitors. I use the HS8s for a Fractal Audio AX8 guitar processor and the response is unbelievably flat (you hear exactly what's going in). There are better monitors out there but nothing comes close at the price point! Flat response is VERY important especially with piano. Different speaker/amp combinations tend to over/under hyped different frequencies making the keyboard sound uneven. I suspect that a lot of the complaints that people have regarding some of the piano sample libraries has more to do with their sound reinforcement (speakers/headphones) than the actual libraries.

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Thanks for the replies. @piRround, if you can remember the name of the 8" sub that would be great?

The other problem with studio monitors is that they are great for the performer, although not so much for anyone listening. It's surprising there doesn't seem to be an easy solution that mimics the "acoustic projection" you get from multi-speaker furniture pianos

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I think that adding a subwoofer to the FP90's speakers would be a perfect solution. The only problem with the internal speakers is not enough bass. Get a decent subwoofer that you can control the crossover.


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Tornado, I'll look when I get home from work this afternoon!


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It's a Cerwin Vega XD8.


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