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Hakki, you have to inform us of the good ones that were left behind. I could not watch them all and my girls are in. smile smile smile

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Dear Piano Corner friends,

I have been admitted to the hospital for severe dehydration due to excessive crying when Tiffany Poon was poonied and Schwamova was schwamowed over. However the doctors say that I will be discharged in time to watch Round 2.

Thank you for your concerns.

[PS The jury admitted 43 participants probably the bottom 4 (or more), no. 40 to 43 have tied scores]

Anyone has the link to the actual scores, I heard they would publish it for public scrutiny.

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I think Tatyana Nikolaeva's grandson is Arseny Tarasevich-Nikolaev.

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Originally Posted by Brendan

Predictions
I think we're in the same boat as we were with Tchaik 2015 in that no one has a clear path to the finals. However, I'd keep an eye out for the following people:

Seong-Jin Cho
Dinara Klinton
Aimi Kobayashi
Eric Lu
Arseny Tasasevich-Nikolaev
Dmitry Shishkin


As predicted!

I haven't heard all of the others, but the surprising one to me was Ann, who played today. I felt that there were enough consistency issues to advance another player over her. Who knows.

Regarding TP, the whole performance seemed fairly lightweight and predictable to me. Overall, there was a lack in depth, particularly the etudes.

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Originally Posted by da96103
Anyone has the link to the actual scores, I heard they would publish it for public scrutiny.


In 2010 they didn't publish the scores until the conclusion of the competition, which makes sense. You don't want judges' round 2 scores to be biased by who's in the lead after round 1. The Tchaikovsky competition did something similar -- when the site posted scores after round 1 it was only for the contestants who were already eliminated.

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I've found the calendar. Tomorrow at 10h the second round starts.

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Recitals will be held in three stages: 3–7 October – first stage (78 participants); 9–12 October – second stage (40 participants); 14–16 October – third stage (20 participants)


Here we can see who and when:

http://chopincompetition2015.com/calendar/a2b39925-3e94-41a6-89b7-90c36d1e7ed8

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Hakki, you have to inform us of the good ones that were left behind. I could not watch them all and my girls are in. smile smile smile


I mostly agree with the jury.

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Chopin Olympics again...


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The omission of Tiffany Poon will disappoint a lot of people. Her playing is very individual which is probably not ideal for competitions like this.
So just exactly what type of playing "is" ideal for competitions like this?


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Round 2 has 3 required pieces: A Ballade/Scherzo/Bacarolle/Fantasy, a Waltz, and a Polonaise. It also has the interesting provision that if this doesn't add up to 30 minutes, you can add in whatever pieces you want to make up the difference, as long as they're by Chopin.

Not everyone needed to do this, and of those that did, most of them just added in one of the pieces from the round 1/round 2 list. However, there are a few interesting additions, among them:

-Zhi Chao Julian Jia's doing the Berceuse and the Fantasy-Impromptu

-Dinara Klinton's tossing off 5 Op. 25 etudes before getting into the required pieces.

-Aimi Kobayashi's doing the Prelude in C-sharp Minor (no, not that one...everything's by Chopin here)

-Łukasz Krupiński's doing one of the Etudes not in Op. 10 or 25.

-Georgijs Osokins is giving us Chopin's posthumous "Souvenir de Paganini" variations.

-Dmitry Shishkin is doing the Op. 1 Rondo in C (composed when Chopin was 14-15 years old)

Meanwhile, Seung-Jin Cho is listed as performing the entire 2nd sonata, which I assume has to be a typo. (nope, I was wrong! I didn't think he could fit it in a 30 minute program).

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The omission of Tiffany Poon will disappoint a lot of people. Her playing is very individual which is probably not ideal for competitions like this.
So just exactly what type of playing "is" ideal for competitions like this?


What I meant was I think it's risky to be polarising. It doesn't really help if one or two judges really like you if the others really don't (unless you're Pogorelich and the judge is Argerich.) Mind you, Olaf Hansen, for instance, is a very idiosyncratic player and he made it through.

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A little statistic about piano makers.
(Percentage advance to R2)

Yamaha (19/36) = 52.77%
Steinway (19/30) = 63.33%
Kawai (5/11) = 45.45%
Fazioli (0/1) = 0%

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I have one more in my group of favorites: Seong-Jin CHO (South Korea)

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I am not listening to all, and will have it difficult to follow the finals. I listened to this one now and liked him a lot.

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Originally Posted by kcostell

Meanwhile, Seung-Jin Cho is listed as performing the entire 2nd sonata, which I assume has to be a typo. (nope, I was wrong! I didn't think he could fit it in a 30 minute program).


Cho finished all 4 movements of Sonata 2, skipping the repeats in Movement 1. He used 39 minutes. (The duration allowed is 30-40 minute)

[Although I have to stop Argerich from pressing the buzzer too early]

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I watched a lot of the previous Chopin Competition. I find I cannot watch much of this competition because the same pieces get programmed over and over due to the rep requirements for each round. Of course, that was true in the previous competition where I must have gotten Chopined out. I just don't want to hear a Chopin Ballade, one of the last three Scherzi, the Barcarolle, or Fantasy any more for a while. Or the same five or six Etudes. Or out all the Nocturnes the contestants choose the same handful(for good reasons).

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The omission of Tiffany Poon will disappoint a lot of people. Her playing is very individual which is probably not ideal for competitions like this.
So just exactly what type of playing "is" ideal for competitions like this?


What I meant was I think it's risky to be polarising. It doesn't really help if one or two judges really like you if the others really don't (unless you're Pogorelich and the judge is Argerich.) Mind you, Olaf Hansen, for instance, is a very idiosyncratic player and he made it through.
I sincerely appreciate the clarification, but it doesn't completely answer my question. smile


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I really like Cho -- probably my favorite this morning -- but I am really baffled by his programme choice of including the Sonata. It sort of overshadows the required pieces. Then, if he passes, he'll have to play it again, and it wouldn't be as fresh to the jury. But maybe I've just watched one too many episode of Top (or Iron) Chef, where it's more important to let your main ingredient star in your dish. I guess a piano competition is an entirely different beast with its own strategies. Anyone has any insight into the participants' piece selection strategies?

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Not necessarily. Cho can also play Sonata 3 Op.58 at the next round (or all preludes Op.28)

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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
I watched a lot of the previous Chopin Competition. I find I cannot watch much of this competition because the same pieces get programmed over and over due to the rep requirements for each round. Of course, that was true in the previous competition where I must have gotten Chopined out. I just don't want to hear a Chopin Ballade, one of the last three Scherzi, the Barcarolle, or Fantasy any more for a while. Or the same five or six Etudes. Or out all the Nocturnes the contestants choose the same handful(for good reasons).


I get Chopin exhaustion too, but I guess they feel the only way they can judge playing of Chopin's music (the only music allowed) is to hear how different pianists play the same pieces. At least we don't have to be the judges and sit through everything...

And, OnDemand we get a pretty good choice (if we can listen to ANY Chopin after hearing so much). We can skip ahead!

I'll post something about that next.






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I put together some links for those who want to catch ANY Stage 1 participant's performances or full sessions that they missed.

FULL *PLAYLIST*[/b] for ALL pianists and individual works played in Stage 1
in alphabetical order (made by the Chopin Institute)

Also, the [b]FULL Stage 1 Day and Evening sessions in chron order,
w/ description field showing ALL participants and works during that session (Live-show experience).
-- Also shows judges before and after each performance
and pianist intros, with bio slides

FULL Stage 1 - Oct 3, 10am-2pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNowYe0bfp4&t=11m5s

FULL Stage 1 - Oct 3, 5pm-9pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AwLO-Me7fA&t=25m40s

FULL Stage 1 - Oct 4, 10am-2pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIQeQbVXmHI&t=10m32s

FULL Stage 1 - Oct 4, 5pm-9pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uu6yYw2Heg&t=11m15s

FULL Stage 1 - Oct 5, 10am-2pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nspSrZgmkdc&t=13m5s

FULL Stage 1 - Oct 5, 5pm-9pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PNkOZ85pc8&t=11m15s

FULL Stage 1 - Oct 6, 10am-2pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kwQZopTLEw&t=12m15s

FULL Stage 1 - Oct 6, 5pm-9pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8gnbAfNrIs&t=11m12s

FULL Stage 1 - Oct 7, 10am-2pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln7CDLDnW7Y&t=12m10

FULL Stage 1 - Oct 7, 5pm-8pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKB44FhKgB8&t=11m20s

and
FULL PLAYLIST for ALL Qualified in Preliminary Round in June 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFYzmYLEHtA&list=PLTmn2qD3aSQuKEzTQr8vFzf8B_fHXiQYW

YOUTUBE PAGE FOR STAGE 1 sessions, in random order
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Chopin+Piano+Competition+2015+Recitals%2C+stage+I





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