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27Jan #2261777 04/14/14 09:05 PM
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Jerry Lee would have really liked the option to blow some fuses...


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actually- for you youngsters that is Dennis Quaid playing Jerry Lee....

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If indeed the power socket was changed on the 800 then stupidity or not it seems the earlier models must have been the better design. I'd like to see what the two confusing sockets on the 800 looks like.

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I don't get it... I see diagrams of the backside and it's clear that the power supply is on the far right. The XLRs are quite distinguish. Are people that stupid? Is there a fire hazard? I want to get one of these soon.

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It's good they issue a warning in future manuals and on the site. Is it worth a manufacturing stop or even recall ? I guess not - owners should simply use their eyes and brain when they stick the power supply cable in the machine. How hard can this be ? I'm sorry for Roland. RD800 is a really nice machine. Now they have yet another case of bad luck to deal with, due to some un-careful use by a handful of owners. Cases like this are a pretty expensive exercise to deal with.

Hope they sort it out quickly with indeed a small extra plug or something they can send current owners and supply with new shipments.

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Originally Posted by JFP
Now they have yet another case of bad luck to deal with...


Have there been similar cases in the past?



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Is this what the XLR socket looks like on the RD800?

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In a related story, people are using the USB port and damper input to attach a music stand onto their RD800 smile


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Originally Posted by ando
I was recently in Wellington, New Zealand for a holiday and what struck me very strongly was how many places didn't have handrails and safety messages - in places where they certainly would have where I live in Melbourne. I hadn't realised just how prevalent this "protective" stuff was in our society. I must say it was very nice. People need to look after themselves, educate their children on taking care - we can't wrap ourselves in cotton wool to protect ourselves. If anything this teaches us to be less vigilant about what's around us and more likely to have an accident. I doubt the random accident rate is any higher in my city compared to Wellington or Portugal. People just need to think about what they are doing.


Couldn't agree with you more. The same argument can be applied to seat belts in cars or cycle helmets - supposed safety benefits but the change in attitude their fitment elicits in idiot lemming road users means that in fact users experience additional risks.

Last week we had a court case here whereby a trespasser who fell down a well has had her case for damages dismissed. There are real efforts here in the UK to try and clamp down on the litigious culture that has pervaded from the US. All our public spaces are besmirched with ugly barriers, rails and luminous yellow lines - just to look after people too stupid to look where they're going and to prevent a subsequent "no win, no fee" claim from parasite lawyers. The world has gone mad.

And as far as the Roland power socket goes, leave it where it is - please let the idiots of the world electrocute themselves. Please!

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Originally Posted by ando
I was recently in Wellington, New Zealand for a holiday and what struck me very strongly was how many places didn't have handrails and safety messages - in places where they certainly would have where I live in Melbourne. I hadn't realised just how prevalent this "protective" stuff was in our society. I must say it was very nice. People need to look after themselves, educate their children on taking care - we can't wrap ourselves in cotton wool to protect ourselves. If anything this teaches us to be less vigilant about what's around us and more likely to have an accident. I doubt the random accident rate is any higher in my city compared to Wellington or Portugal. People just need to think about what they are doing.


Couldn't agree with you more. The same argument can be applied to seat belts in cars or cycle helmets - supposed safety benefits but the change in attitude their fitment elicits in idiot lemming road users means that in fact users experience additional risks.

Last week we had a court case here whereby a trespasser who fell down a well has had her case for damages dismissed. There are real efforts here in the UK to try and clamp down on the litigious culture that has pervaded from the US. All our public spaces are besmirched with ugly barriers, rails and luminous yellow lines - just to look after people too stupid to look where they're going and to prevent a subsequent "no win, no fee" claim from parasite lawyers. The world has gone mad.

And as far as the Roland power socket goes, leave it where it is - please let the idiots of the world electrocute themselves. Please!


There's a lot of that I agree on.

I grew up in the 70s and 80s in the UK, and back then, if you tripped over, or slipped on something wet, then complained, you'd:-

a) look a bit stupid
b) get told you should have looked where you were going / took more care

There was rather short shrift for a lot of the sorts of things that people bang in compensation claims for, these days.

What's happened since hasn't been progress, it's just been pragmatism, and the path of least resistance - many are always looking for somebody else to be at fault or to blaim when something bad happens, both in terms of behaviour and actions.

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Originally Posted by 36251
They should just make caps for XLR, attached like a gas cap. You take them off when you have the cables.


VoilĂ ! Problem solved again! Better than my idea.

This is really not a conundrum for Roland.

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Given the litigious nature of far-too-many of us Yanks here in the States, the lack of tort reform, and proliferation of frivolous lawsuits by chuckleheads trying to win the lawsuit lottery, if I were Roland, I'd only worry about it in the US.

You can't fix stupid, but the stupid can---and do---lawyer-up and sue.

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Originally Posted by dje31
You can't fix stupid, but the stupid can---and do---lawyer-up and sue.

IMO moving the AC input next to the XLRs, making it more XLR like, and angling the panel down so you can't see what you're doing was a total bone headed move by Roland.

But anyone who gets electrocuted because Roland blew it is a idiot? Or does this only apply in the US if your surviving spouse / children seek redress in court? I'm confused...

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Good one Marko !!


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Originally Posted by dewster
IMO moving the AC input next to the XLRs, making it more XLR like, and angling the panel down so you can't see what you're doing was a total bone headed move by Roland.

Indeed.

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Originally Posted by dewster
angling the panel down so you can't see what you're doing was a total bone headed move by Roland.


Good point.


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Roland basically sets you up to fry your brand new DP and people start hollering about the nanny state, Darwin awards, and tort reform. We all have our pet peeves, but are lawyers running around stealing everyone's spouses? Are stupid people barking at night keeping everyone up? What's with all the punching down?

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Originally Posted by dewster
Roland basically sets you up to fry your brand new DP and people start hollering about the nanny state, Darwin awards, and tort reform. We all have our pet peeves,

Yeah, and for some, the stupidity of actually frying your Roland in this way and then blaming Roland could be considered a pet peeve. Roland did not set this up. Brain dead users merely forced Roland to issue a warning to all stupid people.

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Sometimes, yeah, but not really relevant.

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Again, yeah, all the time, but still not relevant.

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Because it's ridiculous that somebody will actually do this to their Roland.

Dewster, you are known for your irreverent style and not pulling punches - why the role-reversal? Are we not allowed to find this whole thing ridiculous?

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Originally Posted by dewster
Roland basically sets you up to fry your brand new DP and people start hollering about the nanny state, Darwin awards, and tort reform. We all have our pet peeves, but are lawyers running around stealing everyone's spouses? Are stupid people barking at night keeping everyone up? What's with all the punching down?


All of these comments mean nothing if you don't have your health:

I currently wake up every morning now feeling like the left side of my head and ear is floating in fluid (from either allergies and/or previous sinus infection) and the doctors only give you a nasal spray to alleviate a "symptom" which means the underlying cause of your problem has not been determined.

Let's just continue putting bandaids over the gun shot wound.

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