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About that gal... Ok, so Chopin is rolling in his grave... okie... And we definitely know better!

But, from my end, even if 1 person wondered "what is this? Sounds interesting" then it's a win-win situation! She got 4th place and someone learned about Shopan!

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Well, the sharezo was a beast and beauty won.


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Originally Posted by Nikolas
About that gal... Ok, so Chopin is rolling in his grave... okie... And we definitely know better!

But, from my end, even if 1 person wondered "what is this? Sounds interesting" then it's a win-win situation! She got 4th place and someone learned about Shopan!

She got 4TH PLACE?

Maybe there were a lot of people who played just as badly, then, if that's even possible. crazy

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About that gal... Ok, so Chopin is rolling in his grave... okie... And we definitely know better!

But, from my end, even if 1 person wondered "what is this? Sounds interesting" then it's a win-win situation! She got 4th place and someone learned about Shopan!

She got 4TH PLACE?

Maybe there were a lot of people who played just as badly, then, if that's even possible. crazy

"HERETOPERFORM SHOPAN'S BALLID NUMBER 1 IN G MINOR OPUS TWUNNYTHREE..."



4th place isn't that good when there was only two people in the competition


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About that gal... Ok, so Chopin is rolling in his grave... okie... And we definitely know better!

But, from my end, even if 1 person wondered "what is this? Sounds interesting" then it's a win-win situation! She got 4th place and someone learned about Shopan!

She got 4TH PLACE?

Maybe there were a lot of people who played just as badly, then, if that's even possible. crazy

"HERETOPERFORM SHOPAN'S BALLID NUMBER 1 IN G MINOR OPUS TWUNNYTHREE..."


4th place isn't that good when there was only two people in the competition

ha


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I have a question.
Why did some composers try to move away from "programme" music while some seemed to promote their composition as such?
I'm thinking of Chopin and his etudes, preludes, and valses without much 'subtitles' (except for Raindrop, Winter Wind, and Revolutionary, and I believe those names weren't attributed by Chopin himself?) against Liszt, who, along with Berlioz, matured the form of symphonic poems.
Is one form inferior to the other? If one were to give a title to Chopin's Piano Concerto No. 1 "Polish Departure", would it make it less artistic?

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Originally Posted by albumblatter
I have a question.
Why did some composers try to move away from "programme" music while some seemed to promote their composition as such?
I'm thinking of Chopin and his etudes, preludes, and valses without much 'subtitles' (except for Raindrop, Winter Wind, and Revolutionary, and I believe those names weren't attributed by Chopin himself?) against Liszt, who, along with Berlioz, matured the form of symphonic poems.
Is one form inferior to the other? If one were to give a title to Chopin's Piano Concerto No. 1 "Polish Departure", would it make it less artistic?
There's no huge difference there...

some composers work better with 'pictures' or 'images' or something... Others work better with more abstract ideas... One may need a poem, and an extro-musical idea to compose, while someone else may be fine with a great melodic idea, or something...

no biggie I think

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It is if you play like this.

That was a brilliant performance by Ms. Elizondo!

Any great pianist can play Chopin and make it sound like Chopin. But it takes the audacity and cleverness of a beauty pageant participant to turn it into a Free-Jazzy performance, which sounds like she was playing with her fists and elbows. A truly original performance, and much nicer to my ears than the singing of Florence Foster Jenkins. Too bad the video doesn't show her playing.

Plus, her performance is only 2 minutes long. Just enough to make her point.


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Originally Posted by Polyphonist
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She got 4TH PLACE?

Maybe there were a lot of people who played just as badly, then, if that's even possible. crazy
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Since this was a "beauty pageant" with demonstration of "talent" as only one of the components, it's quite possible that none of the other contestants played the piano as their "talent" segment.

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She got 4TH PLACE?

Maybe there were a lot of people who played just as badly, then, if that's even possible. crazy
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Since this was a "beauty pageant" with demonstration of "talent" as only one of the components, it's quite possible that none of the other contestants played the piano as their "talent" segment.

And what did the others do for the talent segment? Play a round of golf in 1500 strokes?


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The idea is interesting (I mean that they have to demonstrate some talent too), but it is better to be good at something non-intellectual than to be bad at something intellectual!



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Originally Posted by ChopinAddict
The idea is interesting (I mean that they have to demonstrate some talent too), but it is better to be good at something non-intellectual than to be bad at something intellectual!

How true.


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