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Okay, I definitely buy into going with a local store for support/delivery reasons and it sounds like the salesman's initial offer on the Arius 161 he showed me was good. The list price for that model is $1999. I was offered $1349 (which matches retailers offering $1499 and a 10% sale). Based on pianobuyer.com, that seems quite good. I'm focusing on that product line since no one seems to have much bad to say about them, and in terms of an object to have "decorating" my living room, I definitely like them best. Now I'm just beginning to wonder if it would be smarter to look at the 181 instead!

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Okay, I definitely buy into going with a local store for support/delivery reasons and it sounds like the salesman's initial offer on the Arius 161 he showed me was good. The list price for that model is $1999. I was offered $1349 (which matches retailers offering $1499 and a 10% sale). Based on pianobuyer.com, that seems quite good. I'm focusing on that product line since no one seems to have much bad to say about them, and in terms of an object to have "decorating" my living room, I definitely like them best. Now I'm just beginning to wonder if it would be smarter to look at the 181 instead!


If you like YDP 161, check if you can get CLP 320. They are almost identical, the price would be also similar. However, Clavinova line has better support/service (in home service) and better brand recognition and hopefully better resell value.

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I'm focusing on that product line since no one seems to have much bad to say about them, and in terms of an object to have "decorating" my living room, I definitely like them best. Now I'm just beginning to wonder if it would be smarter to look at the 181 instead!
The Arius line is readily available, popular, and competitive. They are a little behind in the technology curve of other brands, but I certainly think the value is there.

The 181 has more features and a simple interface. The speakers do sound better even though the specs read as similar. I don't know that the larger cabinet is any more attractive, per se, but it does come in rosewood vs. black walnut in the 161.

For looks, the other one to consider is the YDP-C71PE. It's gloss finish is really pretty in person but otherwise matches the features of the 161. The price dropped here about 6 weeks ago, making it less of a stretch from the 161. In my living room, I would definitely consider it.


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Originally Posted by bradamant
Okay, I definitely buy into going with a local store for support/delivery reasons and it sounds like the salesman's initial offer on the Arius 161 he showed me was good. The list price for that model is $1999. I was offered $1349 (which matches retailers offering $1499 and a 10% sale). Based on pianobuyer.com, that seems quite good. I'm focusing on that product line since no one seems to have much bad to say about them, and in terms of an object to have "decorating" my living room, I definitely like them best. Now I'm just beginning to wonder if it would be smarter to look at the 181 instead!

I went with the 181 because of the LED display and control panel make it easier to use. I use many of the features more often than I thought I would, especially the metronome and the record/playback capability. The USB port makes it fairly easy to grab midi files off my computer using a thumb drive. The 181 also has bigger speakers than the 161 and therefore a nicer sound, but most of the time I use it with my headphones so that benefit is lost on me.

The 181 has been on the market now for 2 years, so you might check out if there have been any improvements in newer models. The technology moves pretty quickly. That said, I personally have nothing but good things to say about the Arius line. Two years ago when I purchased, I was originally thinking I would get a Clavinova (nothing bad to say about these either, but the are much more expensive). I'm glad I saved my money and picked up the one I did.


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Thanks! Can you tell me what you do with the MIDI feature? Do you get files from online and have the piano play them for you or something?

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Thanks! Can you tell me what you do with the MIDI feature? Do you get files from online and have the piano play them for you or something?

Yes, I get these files on the Internet. I find them helpful in learning a new piece of music. You should be able to find midi files for most of the popular classical pieces. The advantage is that you can slow them down allowing you to study and play along with the recording. Many of these files have the left and right hands on the separate tracks, allowing you to use the "left hand" and "right hand" button to turn one of the hands off. This is useful if you wish to play only the right hand and have the midi track accompany on the left hand, for example. There are many web sites that offer these files, some free, some for a small cost. You can also record your own midi files to play back on the Arius or transfer and save back on your computer. Recording your own playing is useful because it allows you to hear your mistakes and improve. Anyway, I use midi a lot but I'm sure plenty of others would tell you they never use this feature.


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