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We used Piston, which seemed fine (but then, I had nothing to compare it to). I do remember having fun trying to complete the exercises in ways that would surprise and amuse the prof, who was a cool guy.

I keep thinking I should get a copy of it and go through it all again as a refresher - I don't really remember that much of it.


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Originally Posted by Para Otras
How come you are interested in knowing? And of the ones everyone here is familiar with, what are you preferred textbooks for harmony?


For me to have a preferred textbook and to have a qualified opinion, I'd have to look at all of them. The textbook I used in college (by Allen Forte) I still use today if only for the keyboard patterns at the end of most chapters.

There is another thread here where I used a commonly used music theory term (scale degree) only to be called pretentious for using that term. I contend that it is a term that is commonly used and should be known by anyone studying music theory at a university level. I'm curious to know which theory textbooks are in use today ... and I'd bet serious money that all the college level textbooks use that terminology.

The books I grew up with are Walter Piston's Harmony and Allen Forte's Tonal Harmony in Concept and Practice.

One of these days I'll copy all the keyboard patterns from Tonal Harmony in Concept and Practice and post them here. These patterns start relatively simply and keep expanding using material that is introduced as the book progresses. These keyboard patterns are to be worked out in every key and have made me a better player. It will take me an entire weekend to work through them all.


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Originally Posted by wr
We used Piston, which seemed fine (but then, I had nothing to compare it to). I do remember having fun trying to complete the exercises in ways that would surprise and amuse the prof, who was a cool guy.

I keep thinking I should get a copy of it and go through it all again as a refresher - I don't really remember that much of it.



That seems to be the case with a lot of textbooks. You learn from one and that becomes your reference point.


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I am currently independently studying The 4th edition of Harmony and voice leading by Aldwell. I have also read through an Idiots guide to music theory as an introduction. I can say both bOoks have explained this difficult content exceeding well. I am on page 75 on the Aldwell text and am reading each Chapter two to three times. I wish I had done this sooner but it's only because of this forums recommendations that I found both of these texts. Hopefully in a few months I will have a very good foundation in music theory.


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Depends on the lecturer, but my favourite recommended Piston.

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(No, I said specifically that I wasn't calling YOU pretentious. I said it about the origin of such a term for that kind of context -- and I hold to it.)

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(No, I said specifically that I wasn't calling YOU pretentious. I said it about the origin of such a term for that kind of context -- and I hold to it.)


I tried to send you a PM but you don't accept them.

What I would have written privately and not drag this thread into, was this - If a term is universally used in theory textbooks, how can any use of that term, especially when addressing students of a music conservatory at a university level, have or conjure up any pretense? It is the accepted language of music ... and again, the real issue which got side tracked - students are not taught to play scales starting on every scale degree ... but I digress ... smile


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Originally Posted by Dave Horne
and again, the real issue which got side tracked - students are not taught to play scales starting on every scale degree ... but I digress ... smile


I don't know about you, but my teachers made me play scales in seconds, thirds, fourths, fifths, sixths, sevenths, and octaves (unison), as well as learn all the modes (which would be the same thing if we are doing both hands on every scale degree).

Tenths were ignored, which I find for good reason since you already do them with thirds. Then again, this was in Brazil!

However, I think it is more important to learn these as theoretical tools of scale degree scales as well as church modes.

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Dave: I addressed that on the other thread (very fully).

You missed quite a lot of what I said -- you kept missing the points -- and you still are.

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Used copies of Aldwell and Schachter's Harmony and Voice Leading (2nd edition, hardcover, 1988) in what is described as good condition can be bought at Alibris.com for $.99.

Not counting shipping, of course.

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What about good text books on orchestration, if any?

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Berlioz/Strauss/Rimsky-Korssakov


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Originally Posted by symphonicdance
What about good text books on orchestration, if any?


Piston, again.

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