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Light & clear tonal character, especially for some CA63-owners who find their speakers' bass response a TAD too heavy:

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CLAVINOVA HOME IMPROVEMENT R1.0

Dual Voice: Concert Grand 2, volume 3 + Jazz Grand, volume 7 (= dual balance 7-3)

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low 0, mid +5, high +2

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: bright1 (open lid), normal (half open lid), mellow1/mellow2 (closed lid)
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 6
2 - 3 String resonance: 7
2 - 4 Key off effect: 9
2 - 5 Touch: Normal / Custom (for optimizing brilliance!)
2 - 8 Stretch tuning: Normal

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 10

Reverb: Room 2

Effect: none


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Please tell me you're not taking a hammer to your CA93's soundboard speaker....

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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Please tell me you're not taking a hammer to your CA93's soundboard speaker....

James
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Don't worry, I really love that classy spacious natural spruce soundboard response which balances nicely with the speaker system. smile It's just that the tonal character of the abovementioned patch is radically different from the Kawai sound most people have grown accustomed to...


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Wow TADutchman shocked , good work
Love the KAWAI EXtra GRAND LUSHNESS R3.1
I now have all my ca63 registration keys recorded with piano dual layers 3hearts

I have printed ripe_md just for marking which ones I have tested and on which registration I have recorded. It would be great if this could be loaded-saved from usb

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Originally Posted by Hardwired
Wow TADutchman shocked , good work
Love the KAWAI EXtra GRAND LUSHNESS R3.1
I now have all my ca63 registration keys recorded with piano dual layers 3hearts

That's the spirit! thumb


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Here's a variation with excellent playability and clear treble: just hit a C8 and you'll know!!! cool


KAWAI EXtra GRAND LUSHNESS - BALANCED R3.1

Dual Voice: Mellow Grand, volume 6 + Mellow Grand 2, volume 4

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low +5, mid +4, high 0

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: dynamic
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 7
2 - 3 String resonance: 10
2 - 4 Key off effect: 10
2 - 5 Touch: Custom
2 - 8 Stretch tuning: Normal

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 9

Reverb: Stage / Room 2

Effect: none


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The vast array of colours of repeated chords sound even more complex this way and the soft pedal really hits the sweetspot now (given that you've got the custom touch & brilliance right):


KAWAI EXtra GRAND LUSHNESS - BALANCED R3.2

Dual Voice: Mellow Grand, volume 6 + Mellow Grand 2, volume 4

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low +5, mid +5, high -1

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: dynamic
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 7
2 - 3 String resonance: 10
2 - 4 Key off effect: 10
2 - 5 Touch: Custom
2 - 8 Stretch tuning: Normal

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 9

Reverb: Stage

Effect: Delay 3, time 1, depth 1

Last edited by TADutchman; 07/28/11 12:26 PM. Reason: damper treble playability

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Deceptively simple but powerful hint to achieve the right amount of brilliance: adjust the high EQ Tone control and/or Damper resonance to match the brightness of your preferred custom touch.


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Please note that I'll be 'out of office' for a while because my wife gave birth to a beautiful daughter.


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Originally Posted by TADutchman
Please note that I'll be 'out of office' for a while because my wife gave birth to a beautiful daughter.


Big congratulations to you and best wishes to all three.

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Wow, congratulations TADutchman!

Remember the famous internet mantra: pics or it didn't happen! wink

No, I'm only joking... please keep your child's anonymity sacred.

Congrats again!

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hi guys sorry to intrude but how is the dual voice mode different from the layering available on Kawai stage pianos(like mp6)

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Originally Posted by TADutchman
Please note that I'll be 'out of office' for a while because my wife gave birth to a beautiful daughter.


Congratulations TAD, and best wishes!!!

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Congrats Dutch! Enjoy your time with your little girl since it goes sooooo fast!

James can answer your question macbug. My MP-10 does not do multiple piano layers at the same time.


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Originally Posted by macbug
hi guys sorry to intrude but how is the dual voice mode different from the layering available on Kawai stage pianos(like mp6)


I believe the principle would be the same, and the MP6 has the potential for greater control over either layered sound (up to four sounds). However, it should be noted that the CA93/CA63 and MP6 use different sample sets, so applying the combinations and settings as explained in this thread may not produce the same results.

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Thanks a lot for all the best wishes (also PM) smile

While still lacking sleep, let's return to the core business of this thread: here's the start of a Trilogy involving a Rock piano for adding some slight imperfections / evolving non-linearities to the overall Grand piano sound. I prefer the closed lid setting (at volume 4.2 with optimised custom touch setting and simultanuously brilliance).


TRILOGY PART 1 - JAZZ R1.0

Dual Voice: Jazz Grand, volume 7 + Rock Piano, volume 3

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low +6, mid +6, high +5

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: mellow 2 (closed lid) / mellow 1 (half open lid) / normal (open lid)
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 7
2 - 3 String resonance: 10
2 - 4 Key off effect: 8
2 - 5 Touch: Custom
2 - 8 Stretch tuning: Normal

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 7

Reverb: Room 2

Effect: Delay 3, time 1, depth 1

Last edited by TADutchman; 08/20/11 05:33 AM. Reason: Improved discant: layer dynamics 9 -> 7

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Here's a character Studio grand: I prefer the half open lid setting.


TRILOGY PART 2 - POP R1.0

Dual Voice: Studio Grand, volume 7 + Rock Piano, volume 3

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low +4, mid +5, high +4

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: mellow 2 (closed lid) / mellow 1 (half open lid) / normal (open lid)
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 7
2 - 3 String resonance: 10
2 - 4 Key off effect: 9
2 - 5 Touch: Custom
2 - 8 Stretch tuning: Normal

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 8

Reverb: Room 2

Effect: Delay 3, time 1, depth 1


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OT: do you want playback quality in the same ballpark as SACD/DVD-Audio from your current CD-player?

Check out JVC's amazing K2HD CD mastering technology if you haven't already done so! cool
I do hope that prices go down a little as more and more K2HD CD titles are becoming available...


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$37 to $49 per disc... Ouch!

Hopefully those costs would come down a bit. I don't see myself playing each disc as much as I played Battlefield Bad Company 2...



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Originally Posted by HwyStar
$37 to $49 per disc... Ouch!

grin Yes, that's like 25 Euro or more... (who has seen lower prices, anyone?)

For real mainstream use, I guess K2HD and DXD CD prices need to consistently drop below 20 Euro and the number of available (new) titles has to increase dramatically.

The good news is that the huge CD player user base is already there (which was/is not the case for e.g. dedicated SACD players) and no sensible person would even dare to compare the sound of a compressed MP3 to the master tape like K2HD red book format (except for when using a mediocre audio-system and/or being partially hearing impaired).


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