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After looking at a lot of Yamaha and Kawai in the under $6000 discounted price level I'm left feeling like all the pianos I looked at have some drawbacks to the sound. Although so far I like the Yamaha U1 the best, but it's more money than I really planned to spend, and I played some older U1s that sound too bright. Almost all the lower end Kawais sound a bit lifeless to me but maybe that's my uneducated ear.

Sometims I see posts on here implying there are other less well known pianos that give you more for your money.

What are the brands that would give me a nicer sounding and/or playing piano in that price range. Like to keep it to $4000 if possible but if there is good reason I can go to about $6000.



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Definitely check out Hailun!!
It'll lean heavily toward the $6000 end but definitely is a good option!


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Definitely check out Hailun!!


Would also include:

Albert Weber [Hollywood Pianos]
Perzina
Ritmueller
Brodmanns [models 121 and 123]
newly designed Young Changs

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Perzina, and Wm. Knabe. Maybe Brodmann. I like the Brodmann grands a lot, but have no experience with the uprights. May Berlin is Schimmel's "value" line. I think they sound and feel pretty good, a really good value. It's also the least expensive of the ones I've mentioned.

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Perzina uprights (122 and 129 though the 122 is probably closer to your price range). Also the Knabe W131 and/or 121.


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There are several good institutional studios that offer a different sound closer to your $4k budget. They are a little smaller, so you will likely give up some bass.

Several are built by Samick:
Story & Clark Academy Studio
Kohler & Campbell KC-245
Knabe WKV-247

Hailun has a variety of great affordable uprights. We chose to carry the HU-116, HU-5 and arriving very soon, the new 52" HU-6.

Also look for May Berlin (my personal choice), Irmler, Palatino, Brodmann. I haven't price checked all of these but most should be available for sub-$6k


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Hailun is the better of the Chinese pianos IMO. They also supply components for many other brands this is a well equipped manufacturer.
Knabe, Pramberger are also great choices and the best from the Korean manufacturer.
Perhaps you should consider a 52" piano it will give you more for your money.
Usually a larger instrument offers much better sustain and dynamic range. Although I doubt you can find any of these brands for less than 6K.
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Check out the Piano Buyer. There's a link to it on the right of this page. It's free to view online and it's the most comprehensive buyer's guide on the planet. What more do you need?


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We sell large and very nice Hailun's and Irmllers for less than $6,000. Baldwin also has very nice uprights in your price range. The Baldwins come in two varieties from two different factories. One is the traditional Baldwin designs which have been famous Baldwin Hamilitons and one line is of different design which comes from the factory that they bought some while ago.
Please remember to carefully consider the dealer and his willingmness to prep and service the piano. Few dealers will do much on such a beginning price range of pianos. I assure you that every one of these pianos will play much better with the several hours of store prep.
So you have lots of options.
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Hmmm...socketorius puppetus?


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As mentioned above, Perzina and Ritmuller have some extremely nice pianos in that price range.

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Thanks for all the replies. With one exception I haven't seen any of the brands mentioned in any store around where I live.

Guess I'll have to drive further.

Unfortunately it seems Hailun are not available at all any where near where I live.



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Where in California are you? This forum is one of the best dealer locators available.


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I'm in San Jose.


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Diablo Pianos (Furtwrangler) in Pleasanton, CA has both Wendl & Lung (made by Hailun) and Brodmann lines. Carnes Piano (Kurtmen) represents Bluthner and may be able to help you with Irmler as part of Bluthner's line. I see from his tag that he has Charles Walter which would stretch your budget further, but they are wonderful.

That's a start.


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Drive up to Berkley and see R Kassman. He is extremely well versed in all pianos and is known for well prepped pianos.


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According to the website, R Kassman handles Perzina and Ritmuller. Larry Fine (pianobuyer.com) writes that Perzina makes the best sounding upright coming out of China. The Ritmuller UH models are much improved over Ritmuller's older line.

There must be a Schimmel dealer near you (May Berlin), but I haven't found one yet.

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Colton Piano on stevens creek across from valley fair . . .



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Colton Piano Gallery, across from Valley Fair, carries Schimmel, Estonia, and Vogel. I'm not sure if they have any May Berlins.

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Hi Bolt,

I am in your area and have recently checked out all of the local dealers and have a good grasp of the local market.

You should check out Bohemias. You can see them at Peninsula Piano Brokers in Palo Alto. If I was going to buy a new upright in your price range, that is what I would probably buy.

Perzina is sold at Silicon Valley Piano in Cupertino. You should also check them out.

If you have patience, you can get a higher quality, nearly new but used upright for less than $6000,
like a Petrof. That might take two or three months of light searching to accomplish.

Carnes in San Jose also sells Charles Walter. You might be able to squeeze in one of those for under $6000. More often than not they come in the granny style, but they are very high quality pianos.

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