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We are planning to replace our current piano (an old player piano in pretty bad shape) so our two daughters have a decent piano to practice their lessons. We have been looking at a used Charles Walter upright at a local dealer and I'm trying to find out if the price is reasonable. It is a 1982 Charles Walter 1520 (serial #505598) and seems in fine shape and seems to play well. The dealer is asking $4895, which seems like a lot for a 30 year old piano. Any thoughts or input from others would be greatly appreciated. We'd like to get a good piano for our daughters to use but don't want to get robbed in the process.
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It is obviously a bad price when you can get a good new Yamaha or Kawai for that.

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Chinese brand piano like pearl river ,schumann ,the current quality is comparable to yamaha or kawai,but price in china is from only $2000 for a decent upright piano, if u don't mind international shipping ,u could try buy one from china direct i think .


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In buying a piano direct from China, what would one do if there is a problem with it upon delivery? Problems can range from damage in shipping--whether minor or major--through to major warranty issues.

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Delivery will not a big problem in shipping a piano from china ,because the out packing of a brand new piano is always specially designed for long distance shipping ,many european and united states musical instruments dealers import and ship many containers of piano and other instruments direct from chinese factory .the damage is rare to find during shipping

only warranty will be a concern for individual buyers ,though factory offer 5 year free parts and labor warranty ,the distance ,and shipping cost make it impossible to realize ,but piano is not vulnerable article,warranty seems not that important for a good acoustic piano too .

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Um... this is about as blatant a violation of PW rules as I have ever seen.


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Sholzman, welcome to the forum. Charles Walters are very good piano, but that price does seem a little high. For that money you are close to being able to get a new Yamaha or Kawai upright, which are both excellent pianos.

Also, there are very good quailty uprights from China like Broadmann and Hailun that you should consider.

I'm under the impression that buying a piano direct from the factory is not a good idea. Unlike other products, getting a piano "out of the box" is not the best thing to do. Any new piano needs to be adjusted and prepped by a technician, even the top brands like Steinway and the best of the German brands.

It's best to buy from a reputable dealer if you're buying a new piano. That way it will be properly prepped, and you will have a relationship with a dealer that will be helpful if problems arise with the piano.

Good luck, and keep us posted on how the search goes.


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Thanks Larry (and others). If we decide to go with a new piano, we will definitely be buying from a dealer and not factory-direct. We want to have the relationship with and support from the dealer in the years to come. Our heads are spinning right now from all of the information we've been absorbing and trying to sort it all out.

The Charles Walter seems to have a very good reputation as does the Kawai (based on posts here and other sites). The dealer that has the Charles Walter also sells (new) Steinway, Boston, Essex, and Pearl River. The dealer told me that Kawai builds Boston pianos...is Boston comparable in quality and price to Kawai?

Thanks again for your help. We will continue to try to make a decision as we gather more information.

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It's normal to become confused when auditioning pianos. It'll help to write down your impressions of tone, touch, and appearance.

As you've already noticed, you can get help here re brand info - including prices - but the most important thing is for the family to take their time.

Choosing a piano is ultimately an emotional decision and we often react differently on different days, so multiple auditions are preferred. The right piano is the one which attracts the family more and more and whose shortcomings you all can live with.

The first price you hear is rarely the price at which a seller is actually willing to sell.

New pianos from Asia are providing tough competition for used American and European pianos.

Patience and persistence.


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