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#1111631 10/15/08 11:58 AM
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I have always played music in major keys and of course had minor chords in the music, however, I have recently begun exploring minor keys and LOVE them.

I was wondering though how in Major Keys the I iv and V are the most popular chord progression when using that same chord progrssion in the minor keys they don't sound so good.

The song I am working on I play in Dm (natural I think) it has a Bb in it, but my progression begins with a I then a iv then a ii and I don't play the V unless the third is sharped i.e., A C#, E or A Major.

So since the minor keys are different than the major keys, what are the most popular chord progressions why are they different?

Thank you again!

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I don't think it is just the minor sound. Having major, minor and diminished chords available simply adds to the "vocabulary".

It seems that playing the V as a major chord is very popular, not only in popular music. I recommend you to read about the different minor scales too, it helps understanding progressions based on minor chords.

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Guendola, there is a ton of difference between playing a song in a minor key or major from what I can tell. It's happy or sad.

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Libby,

I'm also a fan of minor keys. From my understanding, chord progressions aren't necessarily different based on major vs. minor keys.

You might want to check out Seaside_Lee's fabulous post about "noodling": http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/32/7189.html. In it, he shows a 1-6-2-5 progression in both a major key (C) and its relative minor key (Am). In the key of C, it's C, A, Dm, G. In the key of Am, it's Am, F, Bdim7, E.

A popular way to form progressions is using the Circle of Fifths. There's another great recent post, this time by quiescen: http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/32/7272.html.

All the popular progressions can be related to the circle, whether it's 1-6-2-5 or 1-4-5, etc.

I tried 1-4-5 in Dm, and to me it sounds fine, especially when Dm is harmonic minor, where the 5 chord is a major chord (with C#) which resolves back to Dm.

In your post, I assume you're using upper/lowercase Roman numerals to indicate major/minor chords? If so, in major keys, it should be I, IV, and V. In harmonic minor keys, it's i, iidim, iv, V.

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See Tekkie, I don't understand:

"In your post, I assume you're using upper/lowercase Roman numerals to indicate major/minor chords? If so, in major keys, it should be I, IV, and V. In harmonic minor keys, it's i, iidim, iv, V."

Please define "it" if the major keys have a standard/pop chord progression I IV V, then in the minor keys why are you including the iidim and the iv is also minor right but the fifth is not, so the I IV V progression in the Major scale is not the same sound if you use the 1st 4th and 5th of the minor scale, and I don't mean cause it's a new scale, I mean the progression is now I iv V (meaning the 4th is a minor chord and the 5th is a major if that were true in a Major scale the F would me a fm,a whole different sound.

Please advise.

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A simple 3chord song in a minor key would use

i, iv, V.(using scale degrees of the harmonic minor) But many arrangements also borrow chords from the relative major key.


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Originally posted by Libby:

Please define "it" if the major keys have a standard/pop chord progression I IV V, then in the minor keys why are you including the iidim and the iv is also minor right but the fifth is not, so the I IV V progression in the Major scale is not the same sound if you use the 1st 4th and 5th of the minor scale, and I don't mean cause it's a new scale, I mean the progression is now I iv V (meaning the 4th is a minor chord and the 5th is a major if that were true in a Major scale the F would me a fm,a whole different sound.

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The reason I mentioned iidim is because it's part of the popular 1-6-2-5 progression, and in a minor key, the 2 chord is diminished. For example, in the key of Dm, the 2 chord is Edim.

The 1-4-5 progression in a harmonic minor key using Roman numerals is i iv V, not I iv V. Again, using the Dm key, the progression is Dm Gm A.


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