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#109007 02/02/04 01:22 AM
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Recently looked at a Knabe grand circa 1965 5'-6" (size?) for sale and was told by Seller that his technician said best years were after 1936 until 1960's.

"Ummmm", I thought early turn of the century were golden years in general for american made piano's.

Any thoughts out there please?

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The seller is trying to sell you his piano. The best of the Knabes were before the time period he defines, from about 1880 to about 1930 (not that there weren't some good ones produced after that).

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Yes Charles, the "Golden Age" of American piano making ran from as early as 1885 to the beginning of the Great Depression in 1929, so anything later would not fit what we (what I on this forum) started calling the "Golden Age."

My boss has a 5'8" Golden Age Knabe that was recently completely rebuilt. It is an amazing, powerful, lyrical instrument with most of the properties of the original since the scale was not changed and the belly design was faithfully copied. Most Knabes of this age had pinblocks that just didn't last much over 60 years of hard use. They had good solid powerful bass sections, decent tenor with minimal noticeable break, but most amazing were the ranges above middle c where these pianos sang with a sparkling golden voice. This instrument's power to project tone was dramatically improved. It cost almost $20K to restore but was transformed from something worth maybe $1,500 (a dying piano) into an instrument worth in the low $20K's. The rebuilder elected to rebuild the existing action (it plays like greased lightening, a tribute to this rebuilder's skill at regulating) and use Abel hammers which were voiced back down to make the piano more mellow sounding than is usually the case. Old Knabes can be quite bright sounding. Side by side with most new pianos out of Asia, this piano would instantly win praise hands down. It just has far more character throughout. It's good for the next 60+ years.

Of course it might have been rebuilt carelessly (I have seen this) and none of these excellent qualities would have been brought out. There are many factors to consider when rebuilding an old piano. The goal is to make it look, sound and play as if brand new and had better be better than when brand new to succeed. My boss's piano plays and sounds like a new piano, but she elected to leave the antiqued case alone since her mother had done it. I would have had it refinished as a satin ebony.

What I'm concerned with at the moment is how wise it is to rebuild many of these, especially if the people doing it don't have the highest standards of workmanship and more, they have to have the spirit to make a great piano come to life again, and the more I look around, the more I'm convinced that many rebuilders simply don't have the skill or the talent. And consider that at the moment there are many very good pianos coming out of Asia, especially China, for very competitive prices. Does it still make sense?

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Wow, thanks for really insightful replies.

One more question please.

The last replier is right about finding good rebuilders because some I've spoken with about restoring Knabe's give conflicting answers.

One rebuilder in Canada (Toronto) told me you should ALWAYS replace Knabe bridges because the original vintage pianos used inferior wood for that part. However, another rebuilder (in California) said that unless you replace the sounding board then bridge repairs are adequate because you should keep both together if possible original (or replace them both new).

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A Knabe from the mid '60s is a decent piano. Maybe not the best they ever made, but certainly I wouldn't shy away from one at the right price. I wouldn't worry about pinblocks or bridges or soundboards in a Knabe this new. Especially in San Francisco. There are Knabes around here with 100 year old pinblocks which still hold a tune wonderfully.


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