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Re: Studiologic Numa Nero MIDI controller. AVOID!!!!!! [Re: Qbert] #1454586
06/11/10 10:13 AM
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I will NEVER purchase a keyboard or controller with a Fatar action.
Never.

I've had two of them, an Ensoniq (Fatar action) and a Fatar StudioLogic Controller and both have the reliability of a Ford Pinto.

While I owned them, I became an expert at gluing the weights back into the cracked plastic "hammers", replacing the felt bumper pad and other necessary repairs.

Fatar uses a very brittle, cheap, plastic inside that cracks and the parts go flying everywhere.

It's the plastic equivalent of pig metal.

Maybe they have gotten better over the years, but I won't go near one.

Just my 2 cents.

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Re: Studiologic Numa Nero MIDI controller. AVOID!!!!!! [Re: Qbert] #1462166
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Originally Posted by Qbert

I wonder if a Numa Nero, with escapement kit alredy installed, is available.


If someone is interested (as I was), the escapment kit is NOT suitable for NUMA Nero.


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Re: Studiologic Numa Nero MIDI controller. AVOID!!!!!! [Re: Qbert] #1953507
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It's been a while since the original bad review was posted here. I have something to add.

I bought what was sold to me as a new Numa Nero from an internet supplier, Sonicfiber last month. It turns out it was a B-Stock open box refurb. To make a long, frustrating story short, after a fight, I was able to get them to reimburse me some money which somewhat made it better. I decided to suck it up and keep it.

I can completely concur with what the OP said. This piano is the most incredible piano controller I have ever played as far as feel goes. Yet it all gets thrown out the window due to the flawed midi implementation. You cannot play this piano fast. Everything the OP said is true. My question to Studiologic is if indeed this can be fixed, or is this just the way the Nero is. I am awaiting to hear back from them. I suppose an amateur piano player would not be able to detect this issue, yet a seasoned pro definitely could. The problem is subtle, but absolutely unacceptable.

If they can't fix it, I will be returning it.

Another interesting thing is that they ditched the beautiful, high gloss finish. Numa Neros are all matte black now and they look very cheap. Apparently they were having quality control issues with the high gloss. That could be just BS for an underlaying motivation to cut costs, yet I can't know for sure. It sure is upsetting though, as the gloss Nero really had an elegance to it. In fact, that is part of the way in which it was marketed. Here is a picture of the new matte finish:

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Re: Studiologic Numa Nero MIDI controller. AVOID!!!!!! [Re: jscomposer] #2779416
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May be your bad luck with Garmin Colorado GPS. I have two of them and they are going good. I also use bluetooth low energy beacon for gps tracking. Everything is okay. Sometime found some software issues. Nothing else.

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Re: Studiologic Numa Nero MIDI controller. AVOID!!!!!! [Re: jscomposer] #2779419
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You're in a thread started nine years ago, and you've responded to a post from eight years ago ... from a person who has not been here for five years.
I don't expect he'll respond to you. smile

Re: Studiologic Numa Nero MIDI controller. AVOID!!!!!! [Re: jscomposer] #2779433
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I can`t hold myself anymore, I must add some lines to this thread just to be a part of history smile smile

Re: Studiologic Numa Nero MIDI controller. AVOID!!!!!! [Re: jscomposer] #2779442
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I wonder if he still has the GPS.

Re: Studiologic Numa Nero MIDI controller. AVOID!!!!!! [Re: SteveO42] #2779454
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Originally Posted by SteveO42

I've had.....an Ensoniq (Fatar action)

While I owned them, I became an expert at gluing the weights back into the cracked plastic "hammers", replacing the felt bumper pad and other necessary repairs.

Fatar uses a very brittle, cheap, plastic inside that cracks and the parts go flying everywhere.

It's the plastic equivalent of pig metal.

Maybe they have gotten better over the years.......


In 1987, I bought an Ensoniq ESQ1 and liked the feel of the keyboard - it was maybe what you'd call semi weighted and had a better action than the Korgs and Rolands I'd played (Korg's keyboards were the worst). But the action in the keys, which were velocity sensitive, was weak. Every so often, a key would break as a weak shoulder of plastic sheared behind the key. I used to have to carry a tube of glue and a kit of tools around to rehearsals and gigs. The other lads in the band would have a tea break. Could that have been Fatar?


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