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Re: VPC -1 keys uneven response [Re: Mike Mey] #2879711
08/15/19 04:43 AM
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The problem zone ist often the transport. DPs will be transported with a cheap company. Real Grands have to be transported with specialilized companies. Because of the weight they can not be thrown like a DP with only 15-30kg.

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Re: VPC -1 keys uneven response [Re: aphexdisklavier] #2879902
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Originally Posted by aphexdisklavier
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The problem zone ist often the transport. DPs will be transported with a cheap company. Real Grands have to be transported with specialilized companies. Because of the weight they can not be thrown like a DP with only 15-30kg.

That makes sense, but if a manufacturer becomes aware that a large number of DP's are going bad while shipping, they have to do something about it, like better packing. I haven't mentioned this yet, but this is actually my second bad VPC-1. The first one had a few keys smashed in, like a bad shipping incident.

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Re: VPC -1 keys uneven response [Re: Mike Mey] #2879911
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Originally Posted by Mike Mey
Originally Posted by aphexdisklavier
@ BOSENDORFF
The problem zone ist often the transport. DPs will be transported with a cheap company. Real Grands have to be transported with specialilized companies. Because of the weight they can not be thrown like a DP with only 15-30kg.

That makes sense, but if a manufacturer becomes aware that a large number of DP's are going bad while shipping, they have to do something about it, like better packing. I haven't mentioned this yet, but this is actually my second bad VPC-1. The first one had a few keys smashed in, like a bad shipping incident.

I bought my first VPC-1 back in April or May of this year from a well known online vendor and it arrived via Fed Ex in the original packing. The piano was an open box return that was supposed to only have a small cosmetic defect on one corner but when it arrived at my office 2 of the lowest octaves keys were jammed in and would not come up without severe force and when I did that it the wooden keys would rub hard against each making the most unpleasant rubbing sound. (Actually maybe you got the same DP hmmm...) The keyboard was completely broken. Interestingly though the keyboard came in the original packing but clearly a few of the styrofoam shock pads were missing and the keyboard must have been left in the box to bounce around because otherwise the exterior of the box looked fine. It was surprised this well known vendor sent the DP in this fashion but they gave me no problems with the return. I decided to buy a VPC-1 from the local professional product Kawai dealer and have it shipped to him and inspected before I picked it up. The DP arrived in perfect condition and has been so ever since. The action on these Kawais are some of the best (if not the best) in the market but the action mechanism is complex with many moving parts which does not help that some wooden components are included (great for feel though). I can only imagine they are sensitive to jostling and banging during shipment so not surprising they may have some damaged units during shipping. When I spoke to the original vendor he said for new digital pianos especially those known to sometimes get damaged during shipment they now double box those for extra protection and cushioning. I think Kawai would rather just replace any damaged units than spend a lot of money over engineering their shipping boxes. A lot of that damage as mentioned above has a lot to do with the shipping handlers than Kawai.

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