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Re: White mold(?) on bottom of rim of a Schimmel CC213T [Re: dhull100] #2772777
10/15/18 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Snyder
The house has been unoccupied since the owner passed away in June, but the family has been in it frequently to go through his belongings. They also mentioned that they had the A/C turned on all summer. We're in Michigan, and summers can get quite humid.

That is a strange assertion. Who runs A/C for months with nobody in the house?

Originally Posted by dhull100
Were the more confluent areas puffy and raised from surface? It seems so in the photos, and that would be fungal / mold growth of some sort. (I only offer an opinion because I specialize in laboratory medicine and have seen too many colonies of mold to count, though not on wood!) Hopefully none inside anywhere; I'm sure the technician can advise.

You may have mold in your old house. But you don't know if the mold on the piano is dangerous.

Originally Posted by MarkL
I've used this mold testing lab for a few things I've found in house basements. It's easy to take the sample, they send a pdf report in 24 hours, and you'll know everything from the latin scientific name to whether it's dangerous and how to get rid of it.

For health & safety, I think this is a good call.

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Re: White mold(?) on bottom of rim of a Schimmel CC213T [Re: Chris Snyder] #2772877
10/15/18 09:17 PM
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Who runs A/C for months with nobody in the house?


That's what they told me, and I have no reason to distrust them. They were in and out quite a bit cleaning it out.


1999 Schimmel CC213T
2006 Yamaha M450

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Re: White mold(?) on bottom of rim of a Schimmel CC213T [Re: newer player] #2772883
10/15/18 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by newer player
That is a strange assertion. Who runs A/C for months with nobody in the house?

I ran my a/c in one house I had - 24 hrs a day when I was transferred in my job a couple of hundred kilometers away, and I was living away Mon-Fri.

The house was on the market for a couple of months, I kept the a/c on to stop it getting musty inside. That was mid-summer, and RH would be in the 70-80% range, temps in the 30-38 C range, much of the time when we had sticky NE sea winds.


Alan from Queensland, Australia (and Clara - my Grotrian Concert & Allen Organ (CF-17a)).
Re: White mold(?) on bottom of rim of a Schimmel CC213T [Re: Chris Snyder] #2773911
10/19/18 02:10 PM
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It's here! Thanks to the excellent movers from West Michigan Piano, the Schimmel is now in our living room. Pictures here:
http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/galleries/2773906.html

While the movers were packing it up, I talked with the seller (the sister of the late owner) about the mold. It turns out she is a retired industrial hygienist, which we had only discovered after Googling the initials on her business card. She said that the mold didn't worry her at all, and that mold spores are everywhere; controlling moisture is really the goal. We had this discussion as I was handing her the check for the piano, so there was no possible sale-related motive for saying this. Looking under the piano, I see no indication that there was ever anything there; I had assumed I'd still see some residue in the grain of the wood, but it's pristine—like the rest of the instrument.

This piano plays like a dream. Its previous location was in a carpeted basement, facing a wall—acoustics were not in its favor. I was already expecting to like the sound, if for no other reason than the psychology that comes with making a big purchase. Hearing it in our living room, however, I'm absolutely enamored—it truly is stunning. I haven't played anything loud yet (our youngest daughter is napping upstairs), but its tonal character from mf down to the quietest pppp is truly remarkable.


1999 Schimmel CC213T
2006 Yamaha M450

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Re: White mold(?) on bottom of rim of a Schimmel CC213T [Re: Chris Snyder] #2773914
10/19/18 02:37 PM
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Congratulations on your new (to you) piano! You will get many, many hours of enjoyment from it.


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Re: White mold(?) on bottom of rim of a Schimmel CC213T [Re: Chris Snyder] #2773923
10/19/18 03:23 PM
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What is more exciting than a new baby piano in the home. Enjoy!

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Re: White mold(?) on bottom of rim of a Schimmel CC213T [Re: Chris Snyder] #2773939
10/19/18 06:05 PM
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Congratulations on your new piano. I love the timber finish inside the rim, and the rich colour of the frame.


Alan from Queensland, Australia (and Clara - my Grotrian Concert & Allen Organ (CF-17a)).
Re: White mold(?) on bottom of rim of a Schimmel CC213T [Re: backto_study_piano] #2773944
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Originally Posted by backto_study_piano
Congratulations on your new piano. I love the timber finish inside the rim, and the rich colour of the frame.


Hi Chris
Many congrats! I love your comment that it sounds better than it looks.... but that means you need to post an audio; It is visually beautiful that proof of your assertion is needed 😊. Enjoy!

Re: White mold(?) on bottom of rim of a Schimmel CC213T [Re: Chris Snyder] #2773972
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That's a beauty Chris, enjoy the beautiful music you'll be making together.


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Re: White mold(?) on bottom of rim of a Schimmel CC213T [Re: Chris Snyder] #2774024
10/20/18 08:34 AM
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Really nice looking piano. Enjoy!


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Re: White mold(?) on bottom of rim of a Schimmel CC213T [Re: Chris Snyder] #2774570
10/22/18 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Snyder
It turns out she is a retired industrial hygienist, which we had only discovered after Googling the initials on her business card. She said that the mold didn't worry her at all, and that mold spores are everywhere; controlling moisture is really the goal. .


I'd emphasize once again, we have no proof so far that it actually was mold and not polishing compound. If it comes back, it's mold. If not, better just fuggedaboutit.


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