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Re: Kurzweil SP4-7 vs SP6: How Much More Worth Spending On SP6? [Re: AnalogJeff] #2751748
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Well of course someone CAN say something, but that's different from saying it and being correct. ;-) Really, my point is that nobody can say what's best for someone else without knowing what their individual priorities are.

Artis 7 will likely go for more than SP6, but you never can be sure what might pop up used, so I was suggesting you might not want to overlook it if it came your way, just because it had not been on your radar.

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Re: Kurzweil SP4-7 vs SP6: How Much More Worth Spending On SP6? [Re: AnalogJeff] #2751862
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I owned an SP4-7 and now own an SP6. For sounds, to me there is no comparison. The pianos are certainly better but all the sounds have a little more clarity. The only piano I could get along with on the SP4-7 was 'Horowitz Grand' and even that one became tiresome. The SP6 has the weighted action and the SP4-7 has a semi weighted. Both are made by medelli, I prefer the SP6. But action was not the reason I sold the SP4-7, the piano sounds were dated. They just didn't sound as good as what was available in other boards in other brands. I have no experience with an Artis 7, but from what I have read about it it seems like a good board. But a bit expensive compared to to the SP6. But if 76 keys are important and your fine with semi-weighted why not? Its not THAT much more. And as Scott pointed out you never know what price you can find used or DEMO. I like my SP6 if I were to make it 'perfect', the only changes I would make is add more Favorites and add 76 or 73 key version. But as I have come to realize there is no 'perfect' board. And what is important to some, others not so much.


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Re: Kurzweil SP4-7 vs SP6: How Much More Worth Spending On SP6? [Re: AnalogJeff] #2751878
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Yeah, I think most people would prefer the newer piano sounds, but it's always subjective and can vary with someone's needs, so if they don't happen t o make a big difference to Jeff, fine, and then other factors weigh with more importance. As far as the raw piano sample sets, SP4 has the triple strike; Artis adds the 128 mb German D; SP6 also adds the Japanese C7, and its version of the German D might (?) be larger than the Artis version. (The SP6 also adds the string resonances and half damper, for other piano improvements.)

Re: Kurzweil SP4-7 vs SP6: How Much More Worth Spending On SP6? [Re: AnalogJeff] #2751941
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The fact is, sure, I absolutely LOVE sitting down at a 9' Bosendorfer and feathering that keyboard. It's lovely to touch and to listen to.

Getting a great digital keyboard at a particular price point is a tricky balance. As long as playing a keyboard was not akin to needing a sledge hammer to play the keyboard, I'll get used to whatever keyboard I'm at as long as it's capable of being very expressive and the sounds are excellent. For me, while the SP4-7 pianos nor the keyboard are up with my Roland RD-600 (heck, the keyboard, itself, on the SP6 isn't either), I can live with it and enjoy it. It's the music I can make that's most important. Ease of maneuvering around the keyboard, getting the most out of it, is, of course, also important. The manual for the SP4-7 wasn't that helpful to initially. It took a lot of help from Matthew at American Music & Sound, and Jean at Kurzweil to allow me to figure out how to use the Layer, Split, and Setup function.

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Re: Kurzweil SP4-7 vs SP6: How Much More Worth Spending On SP6? [Re: AnalogJeff] #2751947
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You mention that you won't mind compromising for a keyboard not as good as your current Roland... Why limit yourself to just those few choices ? There might be other brands/models in your budget offering a better compromise for both satisfactory sounds and keyboard.

Re: Kurzweil SP4-7 vs SP6: How Much More Worth Spending On SP6? [Re: AnalogJeff] #2752002
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Since I just did a 3 for 1 trade and will only have 3 boards vs. 5 I have room for one more - but one that would go with my EV.
How is the action on the Sp6 for doing mostly rock/blues music? Sometimes with those 20% coupons it could make the SP6 $1,040. I haven't owned a Kurzweil since the Micropiano but frequently played their boards alot back then such as the PC88 and PC88MX.


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Re: Kurzweil SP4-7 vs SP6: How Much More Worth Spending On SP6? [Re: Bosendorff] #2752140
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I really love the Kurzweil sounds, their musicality. And that there is someone nearby who will really support a SP6 in Dave Weiser. There's not a great place near me that really supports its keyboards. There's a Guitar Center, but they're largely hacks and don't really know their keyboards all that well. I miss Daddy's Junky Music and Wurlitzer (where I bought my Roland).

Why sacrifice? Because I'm not going to get the build quality and keyboard unless I spend double that of the SP6. The current Roland model to the one I own is $2500 (and it's not under 30 pounds either). If there isn't compromising to be done, why would any company put out models that cost >$5000?

Re: Kurzweil SP4-7 vs SP6: How Much More Worth Spending On SP6? [Re: AnalogJeff] #2752231
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There always seems to be some sort of compromise for ultimate portability- i'll be in NYC so hope to find a SP6 just to try


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Re: Kurzweil SP4-7 vs SP6: How Much More Worth Spending On SP6? [Re: AnalogJeff] #2752423
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I just discovered a "program" or patch in the SP4-7, the "Power Pop" piano, that occasionally causes a pop. I tried 2 different sets of headphones and a Roland KC-220 keyboard amp I'm trying. The popping is only in the right channel.

Re: Kurzweil SP4-7 vs SP6: How Much More Worth Spending On SP6? [Re: AnalogJeff] #2752426
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I guess that's why they call it power pop! ;-)

Maybe one more reason to return it and get the SP6, hmm?

Re: Kurzweil SP4-7 vs SP6: How Much More Worth Spending On SP6? [Re: AnalogJeff] #2752500
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Jean just said that the gain on that patch, which is one of the ones supplied for download post production, may be too high and perhaps turning down the volume for it might help. Or just don't use that patch.

Re: Kurzweil SP4-7 vs SP6: How Much More Worth Spending On SP6? [Re: AnalogJeff] #2752643
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Well, the dealer wouldn't go down on the price. It's going to cost me shipping to get it back to them. I really like what Kurzweil delivers in terms of musicality for the musician. And the SP4-7 was compact with 76 keys. The SP6 will cost me almost double, but in the long-term, it will probably be my better bet.

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