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Re: Tuition rates [Re: TimR] #2744599
06/15/18 01:57 AM
06/15/18 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TimR
I think that neglects the idea that there might be two distinct categories of beginner: those who are there for "enrichment" and/or to check the block on college applications, versus those who are serious and will go on to become advanced students.

There are many more categories than just two. You forgot the expensive babysitting "lessons" in which the student does not necessarily get enriched in any way, shape, or form.

I have been giving a series of trial lessons lately to potential transfer students. It is indeed very interesting to find out how few kids are remotely adequate at piano.


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Re: Tuition rates [Re: Peter K. Mose] #2745003
06/16/18 11:45 PM
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As a piano student for the past 4 years, taking lessons 4 hours a week at the same studio, two 2 hr lessons per week, if rates were raised because I became advanced (I am not advanced) I would feel penalized for my progression. If the teacher is having difficulty keeping up with the student, then refer them to another teacher who has that skill level. When my theory teacher, who received his masters from Oberlin and played for a symphony, left after 2 and a half years, the studio owner informed me she could not find someone to resume those theory lessons. She offered jazz theory with a masters prepared pianist who specializes in jazz. She did not raise my rates because I advanced. Actually she has not raised my rate in 4 years. However, if I have to miss a lesson (due to the length of my lesson time) I pay for it and do not ask to make it up. The jazz pianist also is a drummer and plays for a nursing home once a month. We work on several pieces and when I have 3-4 prepared, I play the piano and he accompanies me on the drums. Now I am have become more comfortable in front of an audience and my confidence is building, so I think I am playing better. When your students advance or you draw advanced students to your business it serves to positively promote your studio and teachers.

I coordinate a paid externship program, the selection process is competitive. Those senior college students selected are extremely sharp and keep me on top of my game, I like the challenge.


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Re: Tuition rates [Re: Peter K. Mose] #2749872
07/06/18 10:16 PM
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There is really an element in this discussion that bugged me - so I wanted to react - and it was that economic explanation.

This certainly holds true for many people, but we are forgetting a factor : many people will think they are paying for something better if they are paying more.
I've seen a post on a piano forum once (in French) from a beginner who said he looked around for available teachers in his city and took the most expansive one, because he thinks that would be the best teacher.
So a student might think that if he is paying more for more advanced lessons, it is because the teacher puts in more work and that the lesson will be more valuable for him.

Economic behaviors are trickier than we can think at first glance.


That being said, I'm not at all in that category (and I've never seen that, a teacher charging more for advanced students. Like DFSRN, my thinking would be that if a student is too advanced for a teacher to teach confortably, you should simply refer him to another teacher. And I would be perfectly confortable with the opposite too : a teacher not confortable to teach the basics that would refer too beginner students to another teacher - or refuse them at first. Teaching to beginners is something different than teacher to advanced students. Both needs preparation, but of different kind, and teachers can be more confortable with one type of student or the other).


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- Pozzoli, E.R. 427, etude no. 6
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