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Re: Home Binding [Re: cmb13] #2742875
06/07/18 04:43 PM
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Sorry but for me I would never punch holes in my music and re-binding. When I started piano at the age of six I will never forget my wonderful instructor spending time teaching me how to break in the binding on a new piece of music or music book. I've never had a problem with pages moving themselves in a new book. For a new book of say 30 pages it takes me about five minutes to break it in before attempting to play anything from it. My instructor taught me a important lesson I think of and thank her for every time I get a new piece of music.

What is your reasoning for "Home Binding?"

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Re: Home Binding [Re: cmb13] #2742877
06/07/18 05:09 PM
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The reason for me is so that I can have the music that I am working on in one location, one binder, to flip through, carry with me up to a lesson, and play on my daily routine. It's consolidation. I am not taking apart books that currently exist but rather scanning from them or printing music from PDF, keeping the original copy, and marking up my copy without affecting the original.


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Re: Home Binding [Re: Lakeviewsteve] #2742880
06/07/18 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Lakeviewsteve


What is your reasoning for "Home Binding?"


For me, it is a way to preserve the originals of hard-to-find or out-of-print music books. Once I scan and bind the scans, I can safely put away the originals so I don't wear them out.

It would be interesting to hear your teacher 's method of "...break in the binding...".


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Re: Home Binding [Re: cmb13] #2742882
06/07/18 05:24 PM
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Here is another way:

I got the Onsong app for my tablet, put all my music (and more, music I am learning) is on it, all sorted by sets, sorted by genres, with the ability to have the same piece in any number of sets.

The paper copies / books are at home. Music can be added or deleted in a few seconds, stickies with notes electronically added etc. Page turning is via a "Page Flip" Bluetooth unit, no wires (unless you want them). It is about the size of a paperback book.

Wish I had done this a long time ago, but the technology was not there. Not only is it neater, i.e. no pages torn, it is much smaller to carry, and easily modified and sorted. And the tablet is self-illuminating, no need for additional lighting. (The pagefiip pedal is also illuminated)

Onsong: https://onsongapp.com

Pageflip: https://pageflip.com


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Re: Home Binding [Re: cmb13] #2750953
07/12/18 11:08 AM
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Update - I searched for a comb and a coil binding machine; I found the coil binding machines more expensive but I like the coils better. You can't get one under $100. I then went to Office Depot; they will punch holes for about 4 dollars, for 250 sheets.

I arranged and printed about 80 pages of music, spent a lot of time selecting it, included all the repertoire I am practicing and several future pieces; enough to last another year of learning. I printed it and had them bind it, with a break in the middle (clear plastic page) to divide the classical repertoire from jazz/rock. I also made a brief talbe of contents, and arranged the classical music in alphabetical order by composer.

Office Depot then punched and placed in the spiral binder in 5 min flat, for about $10 when including the binder, the cover and divider pages, and I had them punch another 200 pages for future use. I used Ivory Linen paper, heavy weight. Overall, I'm very happy with the outcome, wish I had done it sooner, and will not bother buying a machine as I feel this option was just easier.


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Re: Home Binding [Re: cmb13] #2751041
07/12/18 03:46 PM
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Office Depot has a coil binder for 80 dollars: Item 733211 https://www.officedepot.com/catalog/search.do?Ntt=proclick&searchSuggestion=true

Amazon has them for 70 dollars. It's called a Proclick and will punch coil-sized holes in letter and legal sized papers. The proclick uses plastic coils that open up flat, allowing you to organize your sheets and then either press the coil shut by hand, or use the "zipper tool" they preview. You can use metal coils, but you would have to thread the coil through your pile of sheets. The proclick is similar to opening a binder and replacing individual sheets, except the rings aren't hard steel and won't pinch your fingers when closing them. If you watch a proclick video, it will show you how easy it is to use, to replace and remove pages at will, etc., much better than I can explain.

I have used it for years now and am very satisfied. I have laminated the covers for my "books" (using a home laminator for under 20 dollars) and the proclick will go through the laminated fronts and backs of the collections I have created.

Comb bound or coil bound--it's a matter of preference. Just thought I'd throw out another cheap coil alternative.

Happy collecting!

Re: Home Binding [Re: cmb13] #2751057
07/12/18 04:43 PM
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Thanks, that's good to know. For some reason I looked through the proclick options but didn't see that item (733211) on the shelf or online, but when I typed the number that you provided in, it is there. Regardless, I'm set for now and as mentioned, pre-punched a lot of pages.

I wonder, has anyone taken apart there older music books and changed from glue-bound (whatever it's called) to coil?


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Chopin Nocturne 72.1
Bach Goldberg Aria
Bach WTC Prelude D min
Piazzolla Invierno Porteno
Re: Home Binding [Re: cmb13] #2751066
07/12/18 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cmb13
Thanks, that's good to know. For some reason I looked through the proclick options but didn't see that item (733211) on the shelf or online, but when I typed the number that you provided in, it is there. Regardless, I'm set for now and as mentioned, pre-punched a lot of pages.

I wonder, has anyone taken apart there older music books and changed from glue-bound (whatever it's called) to coil?


I did about four years ago. I didn't do it myself. I can't remember if I used Staples or Office Depot. It was really inexpensive and I am glad I did it.


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Re: Home Binding [Re: cmb13] #2751082
07/12/18 06:20 PM
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I do it all the time - with a stack paper cutter and coil binder. I scan them before I punch them because the coil-binding holes make the paper feed through the document feeder a little less reliably.

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