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Re: Other people do Piano Marvel? [Re: akc42] #2850970
05/22/19 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by akc42
Originally Posted by John_C

What is this knuckle-rolling stuff and why is it coming up now so early in the lesson queue? I really don't get it.


It is a bit silly. I encountered it when I was playing through and wasn't watching the lesson videos. I pretty quickly realised that it was all black notes, but was trying it with my normal playing style with my fingers. I was doing quite well, but couldn't nail 100%. It was only then I watched the video and realised it was just a fun exercise (like how I learnt "Chopsticks" as a kid). I just did the knuckle rolling thing just because that meant I could move on. That exercise won't be the last difficult one, there are plenty more along the way. I really recommend not leaving technique behind - I still find some of the stuff I learnt in that side of PM useful in my playing and sight reading today.

Wow. I got 100% but didn't know it would have been easier to roll knuckles, so I did it the normal way - guess I should have looked for the video. I don't recall exactly, since it would have been last March, but I bet I thought it was hard. LOL


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Re: Other people do Piano Marvel? [Re: Sarah65] #2850990
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I still remember this one. I think it's intended for amusement. It's ridiculous IMHO.

I disliked the exercises with distractions like dogs barking. I decided it was intended to get me to focus, sort of like crawling under barbed wire in boot camp while the drill instructor fires live rounds over your head. (I've only seen it in movies. I don't know if they really do that.) Later I asked and was told it was intended to be humorous. Now that I can live with. We don't all share the same sense of humor.

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Re: Other people do Piano Marvel? [Re: WeakLeftHand] #2851070
05/22/19 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by WeakLeftHand
Originally Posted by John_C
I have a specific question about the lesson sequences in Level 1-Method. I've only been playing for a couple of weeks but tonight's practicing in PM really threw me for a loop.

I've completed lessons 1A and 1B in both Technique and Method (yeah, me!). Those lessons were really nothing but introductions to some of the white keys and some rhythm / ear-training.

But then I come to lesson 1C-Method. I was expecting introductions to more white keys as what would seem a 'natural' progression to me. Instead, I'm presented with some song named 'Peter Peter', some funky key signature, and playing by rolling your knuckles over the black keys. My mind was immediately thrown into a disarray. I mean, I got totally screwed up. I had to triple check my stats to make sure I didn't accidentally pull up some other lesson out of sequence but it's correct.

What is this knuckle-rolling stuff and why is it coming up now so early in the lesson queue? I really don't get it.


Your experience and reaction was the exact same as my experience... As to why it’s there...maybe Josh can tell us.



The reason it is there is to teach the skill of learning something by memory (aka: by "rote"). Both reading and memory are valuable skills for a pianist. This particular lesson seems daunting because of the key signature, but it's really not too bad once you spend some time with it. This is the case with anything that is difficult on the piano. I'm learning a jazz piece right now and the right hand is crazy hard, but when I take the time to figure it all out and really learn it in small chunks I start getting it and it is rewarding. That is kind of what is going on with this piece.

Also, we are trying to give a balance of performance pieces and learning pieces in our method; in our minds, the more difficult pieces that we throw in there (for me it was Canon in C in method 5 and the duets in level 6) serve as pieces that the student could possibly play for their parents, friends, spouses, with their teachers, etc. Not to mention, these songs help to teach us how to use PM's practice mode, which is SUPER super valuable.

Hope this helps to clarify this! smile

Re: Other people do Piano Marvel? [Re: Sarah65] #2851903
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I encountered a small issue today, not related to PM per se', but I thought I should post here as this could affect all of those using their PCs in conjunction with their piano / keyboard.

I've been using PM for a couple of weeks now and got tired of the weak sound coming from my tiny PC speaker. So I purchased a Bluetooth speaker that I set up next to my keyboard and paired it to my laptop.

Well, once hooked up, everything sounded fine and I thought, "Wonderful!". Well, not so much.

As soon as I started practicing in PM, my scores suddenly dropped into the 30's. All my timing and rhythm was way off! After some troubleshooting, I determined that the Bluetooth speaker was introducing a slight delay in the sound coming from the PC. As a result, when I played to the delayed accompaniment, PM reported the rhythm / timing errors. I only figured this out after trying a wired connection from the PC headphone output to the RCA inputs on the Bluetooth speaker. Once I went that route, the delay was gone and my scores went back up into the 90's again.


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Re: Other people do Piano Marvel? [Re: John_C] #2851908
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Originally Posted by John_C
I encountered a small issue today, not related to PM per se', but I thought I should post here as this could affect all of those using their PCs in conjunction with their piano / keyboard.

I've been using PM for a couple of weeks now and got tired of the weak sound coming from my tiny PC speaker. So I purchased a Bluetooth speaker that I set up next to my keyboard and paired it to my laptop.

Well, once hooked up, everything sounded fine and I thought, "Wonderful!". Well, not so much.

As soon as I started practicing in PM, my scores suddenly dropped into the 30's. All my timing and rhythm was way off! After some troubleshooting, I determined that the Bluetooth speaker was introducing a slight delay in the sound coming from the PC. As a result, when I played to the delayed accompaniment, PM reported the rhythm / timing errors. I only figured this out after trying a wired connection from the PC headphone output to the RCA inputs on the Bluetooth speaker. Once I went that route, the delay was gone and my scores went back up into the 90's again.

Good catch. Yes, this sort of wireless latency occurs with wireless headphones too. I have a pair of wireless headphones which I originally acquired for computer gaming. Completely useless, shelfware right now. Can't use it for fast-twitch games.


across the stone, deathless piano performances

"Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano
"Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person
"Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
Re: Other people do Piano Marvel? [Re: Sarah65] #2851913
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I ran into a problem with PM silently playing some eighth notes in the left hand. I sent the files into Josh. Everything else played ok, I could hear all the notes, and then, silent notes. This was a simple Kriger minuet that I wrote up in StaffPad and imported into MuseScore to add fingerings and exported in order to import into PM.


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