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Jytte #2911248 11/12/19 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jytte
Well, the human ear has the advantage of being attached to our brain. When we listen to a piece, we know that 'this note isn't longer, he just plays it that way', 'the measure starts here not there', and we can generally (for simpler pieces) hear what is treble and what is bass, or deduct it. Software does not have this advantage, and I knew these limitations up front, but it is a help in just 'getting all the notes lined up' before you get to the editing part.

Oh, I realize what you are saying, but the idea it was using AI techniques still set unrealistic expectations! ☺️


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I use muse score and enter in music manually. It is difficult and time consuming, especially when there are multiple voices on one line. This option seems better but of course there are likely copyright issues.


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Well, meanwhile... I put it to work on something a bit more complex (not by much).

So this is the 'audio view' (whatever that is called):

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And that is a faithful rendition of what is being played. When it 'transcribes' that to a note sheet on the other hand, you get garbage LOL Really useless.

So manually into Musescore as before is still the only way, BUT this 'audio representation' of the music from Anthem can make that job a little easier actually, so this test wasn't an entire waste.


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Originally Posted by cmb13
I use muse score and enter in music manually. It is difficult and time consuming, especially when there are multiple voices on one line. This option seems better but of course there are likely copyright issues.

Copyright issues?
If I hear a piece of music played, and 'copy the playing' as in playing it (faithfully) by ear, or make myself a sheet of it and learn i that way... how is that an issue?


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Originally Posted by Jytte
Well, meanwhile... I put it to work on something a bit more complex (not by much).

So this is the 'audio view' (whatever that is called):

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And that is a faithful rendition of what is being played. When it 'transcribes' that to a note sheet on the other hand, you get garbage LOL Really useless.

So manually into Musescore as before is still the only way, BUT this 'audio representation' of the music from Anthem can make that job a little easier actually, so this test wasn't an entire waste.

Now that's something I hadn't expected. I really do need to download AnthemScore to play with smile


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Tyrone, yes, this view of the music is pretty nifty actually. But there isn't much 'to play with' really I found.


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Originally Posted by cmb13
I use muse score and enter in music manually. It is difficult and time consuming, especially when there are multiple voices on one line. This option seems better but of course there are likely copyright issues.

Copyright issues?
If I hear a piece of music played, and 'copy the playing' as in playing it (faithfully) by ear, or make myself a sheet of it and learn i that way... how is that an issue?

Misplaced modifier - my fault. I meant that Anthem Score taking music off a recording and transcribing it may have copyright issues. Not that this is an issue for me, but I noticed that you can not import scores from sheet music into muse score that are under copyright, whereas you can if they’re not.

It looks like Anthem Score can give a nice head start. After a few years of messing with muse score, I finally decided it wasn’t with my time and I now just buy the score if I’m planning on learning something. A $20 book of, for instance Tchaikovsky’s Seasons, that I have already spent 100 hours on, seems worth it to me. I used to download from imslp or find a score in muse score, or work on making it fit my specifications in terms of accents, notes etc but it just takes too long.

I will probably still use muse score in the future, but to a more limited degree.


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Originally Posted by cmb13
It looks like Anthem Score can give a nice head start. After a few years of messing with muse score, I finally decided it wasn’t with my time and I now just buy the score if I’m planning on learning something. A $20 book of, for instance Tchaikovsky’s Seasons, that I have already spent 100 hours on, seems worth it to me. I used to download from imslp or find a score in muse score, or work on making it fit my specifications in terms of accents, notes etc but it just takes too long.

That's why I don't use IMSLP. High opportunity cost. Time I could instead spend on this forum 🤣🤣🤣


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I use muse score and enter in music manually. It is difficult and time consuming, especially when there are multiple voices on one line. This option seems better but of course there are likely copyright issues.

Copyright issues?
If I hear a piece of music played, and 'copy the playing' as in playing it (faithfully) by ear, or make myself a sheet of it and learn i that way... how is that an issue?

Misplaced modifier - my fault. I meant that Anthem Score taking music off a recording and transcribing it may have copyright issues. Not that this is an issue for me, but I noticed that you can not import scores from sheet music into muse score that are under copyright, whereas you can if they’re not.

It looks like Anthem Score can give a nice head start. After a few years of messing with muse score, I finally decided it wasn’t with my time and I now just buy the score if I’m planning on learning something. A $20 book of, for instance Tchaikovsky’s Seasons, that I have already spent 100 hours on, seems worth it to me. I used to download from imslp or find a score in muse score, or work on making it fit my specifications in terms of accents, notes etc but it just takes too long.

I will probably still use muse score in the future, but to a more limited degree.


If a sheet is available, it's always preferable, quite apart from the time consuming effort. Even I do resent if I have to buy a whole book for the one melody I'm after.
But, when I decide to use Musescore, it's because a sheet cannot be found in any way.
If I was a 'pianist', I'd just play the melody by ear, and my left hand would just find suitable arpeggios to go along magically, but I'm not LOL.


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