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#2055923 - 03/28/13 10:51 PM HELP!  
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Ok,here is my situation....
I play at church a Motif xf8 88key
my parents bought me a TOY! casio ctk 2100 that ive been using for about 1yr. because it was cheap. I need an upgrade! but my parents only wants to pay no more than $500dll for a keyboard. I will have to order my keyboard online, because guitar center closes at 8pm and my parents are at work at that time. So going to guitar center is a NO!
Which keyboard would I be happy with? I have no idea, all I know is that I dont want a casio. I prefere yamaha. I want one like the motif i play at church but those are like 3,000!
sorry for my bad english guys...

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#2055933 - 03/28/13 11:19 PM Re: HELP! [Re: PinkPanther12]  
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If $500 USD is the absolute limit, and you prefer Yamaha, I vote for the Yamaha P35. If you can kick in $100, or find a refurbished unit, or a coupon, you might be able to get a Yamaha P105 (street price $600 USD).



#2055939 - 03/28/13 11:29 PM Re: HELP! [Re: PinkPanther12]  
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Thank you I am doing my research on both keyboards... also would you know if a Single-X jamstands hold a P35 or P105?
I dont want to buy another stand


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#2055942 - 03/28/13 11:42 PM Re: HELP! [Re: PinkPanther12]  
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What exactly are you looking for in a keyboard? What features are most important to you? If it's having a reasonably piano-like feel (and 88 keys), one of the digital pianos that Sand Tiger mentioned (or similar models from Casio or Korg) might suffice. But if the sonic capabilities of a synth are what you're after, those DPs won't cut it, as they are primarily piano simulators and have very few additional sounds. If the sounds in your cheap Casio keyboard are sufficient for the time but you want the full keyboard with better touch, you might consider buying a cheap digital piano and keeping the Casio keyboard, which could be connected to your new DP by MIDI.

If what you want is something with a more powerful synthesis engine, on the other hand, your best bet within your price range is to look for something used. I'm not all that familiar with the Motif series so I don't know what models to recommend, but there are definitely some synths and workstations now a few years old that are still fairly powerful and now fairly cheap. Ebay is one place to look. (Just check the seller ratings and make sure you aren't bidding for a disreputable seller.)

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#2055958 - 03/29/13 12:12 AM Re: HELP! [Re: PinkPanther12]  
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Thank you very much Thomas for your answer, I am looking for a 88 key, with similar weighted keys as the motif i play. I want it to sound good to have decent speakers. I want a keyboard that in 5yrs i wont have to upgrade to a better one. I did look at the P series Mr. Sand Tiger answered.
Would I be happy with a P105 5yrs from now? bcuz I wont be able to upgrade to a better one.
Also i am looking for the keyboard because when I have to practice a song, it's hard to go from my casio to the motif. the motif is much more heavy keys. I want to be able to practice at home.
Thank you for you input on keeping my casio for the voices smile that I will DO


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#2056105 - 03/29/13 09:26 AM Re: HELP! [Re: PinkPanther12]  
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Yamaha P105 and Casio P-150 are your only choice for 500-600. Or maybe a p95 if you want last years model.


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#2056202 - 03/29/13 11:54 AM Re: HELP! [Re: PinkPanther12]  
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I hope you're not too hard on your parents for buying that Casio. They probably thought they did good with what they could afford (and they may have).

With that off my chest, there are some good Casio digital pianos out there, so don't rule them out simply because of the name. Their PX series is very good.

I'm not sure how old you are or if you have a job, but maybe there's a way to supplement some of your own money in with what your parents can afford. I doubt they're being greedy when it comes to the price limit -- $500 can be a lot of money when you have bills to pay.


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#2056245 - 03/29/13 01:17 PM Re: HELP! [Re: SkiPablo]  
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Thank you i will look into the casio...


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#2056249 - 03/29/13 01:21 PM Re: HELP! [Re: LesCharles73]  
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No im not being hard on my parents for buying a casio I appreciate it but its not helping me at all. I will look into the px casio, thank you very much for your input smile


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#2056258 - 03/29/13 01:54 PM Re: HELP! [Re: PinkPanther12]  
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Yes, many people on this forum would genuinely say that, among digital pianos costing under $1000, Casio's have the best keyboard action - the CDP range and PX pianos. They certainly have better features (extra sounds, recording facilities and interface connections etc) than Yamaha and Korg in the same price range .Roland & Kawai start at a higher price point.

So, given your requirements, Casio is well worth checking out, I think.


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#2056319 - 03/29/13 03:30 PM Re: HELP! [Re: PinkPanther12]  
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The only current generation keyboard to fit your budget and keyboard feel is the Casio PX-150. If by chance it does go slightly over the $500, you can buy the previous generation PX-130 for less. Both are acceptable pianos for a beginner. I know cause I have the Casio PX-150.

If you want to step up, the next model that has an improved keyboard would be the Yamaha P-155, however that is typically closer to the $1000 mark. For any piano that is LESS than $1000, I would not buy any Yamaha piano lower than the P-155. Not when you can get a slightly better feeling Casio for the same amount of money.


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#2056354 - 03/29/13 04:44 PM Re: HELP! [Re: adak]  
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Originally Posted by adak
The only current generation keyboard to fit your budget and keyboard feel is the Casio PX-150. If by chance it does go slightly over the $500, you can buy the previous generation PX-130 for less. Both are acceptable pianos for a beginner. I know cause I have the Casio PX-150.

If you want to step up, the next model that has an improved keyboard would be the Yamaha P-155, however that is typically closer to the $1000 mark. For any piano that is LESS than $1000, I would not buy any Yamaha piano lower than the P-155. Not when you can get a slightly better feeling Casio for the same amount of money.


Isn't the issue of feel a matter of preference? Some people seem to prefer Yamahas over Casios etc.

I'm asking because I'm a beginner and in the process of buying my first piano and to me the P-35 feels better than PX-150, but I might not be able to tell what a good piano feels like.

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#2056384 - 03/29/13 05:38 PM Re: HELP! [Re: PinkPanther12]  
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Raikku,
Yes, adak is presenting a personal preference. It may or (or may not) be true that a large majority of pianists would prefer the Casio action, but it's certainly not universal. The best option for anyone is to find the best choices within their price range and find a way to play them. If that's not possible, one might be able to at least find youtubes of the boards in question and listen to see if one has a more appealing sound than the other.

PinkPanther. Someone suggested that if you have another job you might supplement what your parents are offering to spend. Another option might be to bargain with them, to offer to do some extra chores or something if they would be willing to spend a little more. If you have a particular board in mind, and can show them its advantages, and can show them that you committed to your goal of improving your piano skills, they may be willing to spend a bit more. Of course, it may be that they are already sacrificing greatly even to make $500 available. But it might be an option if your parent's finances allow. Also, and your parents may be unaware of this, some online stores will let you break the payment up into 3 monthly installments.

For new digital pianos that are worth getting, the casio CDP 120 and the yamaha P35 are both within your budget. Either of them would be a perfectly fine choice. If you can play both of them, it may help you decide which you like better.

If you can get a little more money through your own savings from work, or from bargaining with your parents, The Casio PX150, Yamaha P105, and Korg SP280 may fall within your price range.

Good Luck.



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#2056415 - 03/29/13 06:36 PM Re: HELP! [Re: PinkPanther12]  
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To this discussion of the feel of the various digital pianos, let me add that if there is any possible way, you should try to somehow make your way to a store where you can try playing them side by side to discover which you prefer. As someone has already pointed out, preferences about touch are very personal, so one person's suggestion on here may or may not be right for you. I prefer the feel of the Yamaha P series over the Casio Privia pianos (although I might be swayed one way or the other, depending on the specific model).

If it were between the Casio PX150, the Yamaha P105, and the Korg SP280, I'd most likely go with the Yamaha P105 because of the feel, but there's no right or wrong answer here. I recently purchased a Korg SP250 because I loved the feel of its RH3 action. Maybe you could find an SP250 at a sale price, as I did, because the model has recently been discontinued. (Its successor, the SP280, has a lighter action that annoys me -- but again, it depends on what kind of feel you prefer.)

#2056689 - 03/30/13 06:12 AM Re: HELP! [Re: PinkPanther12]  
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To the original poster, it would be more HELPful if you labeled the subject of the thread with a tad more information.

You force everyone to either read your post ... or ignore it.




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#2058007 - 04/01/13 07:34 PM Re: HELP! [Re: PinkPanther12]  
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Thanks for everyone's help. I decided to go for the Yamaha P105. I got the p105, a ksp100 sustain pedal, and a double X stand for 599.99. I bought it at Kraftmusic.com they are so much cheaper than guitar center. at guitar center I was going to pay 699.99 for all 3 items! the guy didnt want to give us a discount or anything.


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#2058030 - 04/01/13 08:55 PM Re: HELP! [Re: PinkPanther12]  
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Pink Panther 12,
Congratulations on your purchase. I think it is a good choice. I hope it brings you much enjoyment over the years.
Warm Regards


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