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#2055736 - 03/28/13 02:55 PM Re: How do you memorize music? [Re: heathermphotog]  
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Well, Heather, fortunately, 30 years down the road when your daughter reproaches you for never letting her take the spotlight, there will be ParentWorld forums to go to for advice!

No, just kidding. Seriously, just kidding!

So good luck. As I said earlier, here's to piano playing elephants!

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#2162400 - 10/06/13 04:44 AM Re: How do you memorize music? [Re: PianoStudent88]  
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With a lot of time and effort! I cannot read traditional music because I'm dyslexic and reading 2 clefs at the same time is simply impossible for me. I cannot play by ear because I'm quite tone deaf. So not easy!

I follow a letter note system because of that, but it's more for basics, chords and rhythmics, not proper pieces. I can only play actual pieces by watching piano tutorial videos, and simply copying the position of fingers and speed. Monkey see, monkey do! grin Some tutorials come with the key names, so it's much easier and faster to learn. Of course it took me a while to get used to the letter names as I'm Spanish; Do Re Mi. Why Do is called C instead of A is still an illogical mystery for me, but so many things are when one lives in a foreigner country... wink

I learn very small bites at the time, and then keep practising them and adding the new bites. It takes me ages just to know where to put my fingers. Then, I focus on speed and expression. Normally I wait to learn the whole piece before this, but if it's a long one then I might divide it in half or even quarters and start practicing the speed and expression for each part, mainly so that I can see that I'm actually improving and that pushes me to continue learning. It can take me a couple months to learn a 5-6 min piece, so you can imagine when we're talking long ones. I try to put at least one hour a day.

I also tend to half sing the notes as I learn them (really, you wouldn't like to hear me!) and I find that this helps me memorising the piece.

Of course my repertoire is still quite limited, but I have some modern and classic pieces that I really like and play decently and this keeps me putting up with the time and effort. The most difficult thing for me is finding video tutorials for pieces I like, as many people do not share their skills. But luckily there are quite a lot of video teachers and websites for people who cannot read music sheets. "Artificial music" such as Synthesia is also of great help.

There is simply no way somebody like me would be able to learn without YouTube and the Internet, so for me being in my 40's is not really the problem. I tried to learn when I was much younger and my memory was better, but then there were simply no systems for dyslexic people like me.

At the end of the day, each person is different, and what works for one doesn't for other, so one has to try a lot of different systems to find which one works better.




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#2162401 - 10/06/13 05:19 AM Re: How do you memorize music? [Re: heathermphotog]  
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I find I memorize songs better the more I listen to them and cement them in my head. I 'sing along' as I play, so my fingers know where to go. But if I try too hard, it mucks up. Better to sit back and let my fingers do their thing hehe smile


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#2162719 - 10/06/13 07:03 PM Re: How do you memorize music? [Re: heathermphotog]  
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I'm an audio-kinesthetic learner, so it just kind of occurs naturally as I learn a piece.


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#2162798 - 10/06/13 11:44 PM Re: How do you memorize music? [Re: heathermphotog]  
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A few years ago I realized how precarious my memorization was. I had just started lessons with a jazz pianist, with the understanding that I wanted to study more of theory, and less of the rote playing I had learned as a kid. So I was taking one of my first kessons with this teacher, and a friend who is a " real" pianist was hanging around. The friend had introduced me to the piece I thought I had from memory. My piano teacher asked me to start from a certain point midway through. I couldn't start anywhere except the beginning of a section. He asked me to play the left hand alone. I had never even thought of such a thing, although I did practice a lot hands alone, and couldn't even begin to do this. I asked my friend if he could do these things. Of course he could, and demonstrated. It was an epiphany for me. A whole new way to look at, think about, practice, learn to know, and yes, memorize music. One of those great moments where you think, wow, what would life have been if this had never happened. A friend had the perfect description of how he and I had learned the piano as kids. It was like an opera singer who doesn't speak Italian learning an opera by being taught just the sound of the words. You might be technically perfect, but you have no idea what the words you sing mean. Finally I'm learning theory, how these sounds are put together, and that makes memorization so much more secure.its built on a rock, not a feather.

#2162934 - 10/07/13 09:52 AM Re: How do you memorize music? [Re: heathermphotog]  
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trust me, after playing the same music piece over and over at least a hundred times, you could take a tea while your hands do their gig act at the piano


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