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Re: Professional Movers are worth their weight in gold...
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Years ago I dated a girl in Atlanta who lived on the 4th floor, but on the parking side it was 5 flights, plus another lengthy staircase from the parking area to the door, so it was like 6. It was a pain, especially when bringing home more groceries than can be carried in one load.

My first place in Switzerland was three flights.


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When we lived in Durban SA ,we lived in a really lovely old Tudor house.The staircase and banister was made of a beautiful old yellow ceder .I remember one morning slipping and sailing down the stairs in what seemed like a second.
Arriving on the middle landing, I just sat there .My son suddenly appeared and said "why are you
sitting there" ?
I said " I was just thinking you do not like practising much ?" You mean I can give up.the piano ?
Yes, I suppose so !

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But we do use cranes when they are a good option. Here is one of our concert grands being delivered by crane :



Looks like CP is branching out -- I would love a kitchen table like that!

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Imagine 200 years ago when Beethoven needed to move all his pianos in Vienna...

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Imagine 200 years ago when Beethoven needed to move all his pianos in Vienna...

That would essentially have been as in the original post. Horses for cars being the difference I imagine.

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Imagine 200 years ago when Beethoven needed to move all his pianos in Vienna...

That would essentially have been as in the original post. Horses for cars being the difference I imagine.


Rigging was used. Some of the buildings had places on the roof to insert rigging for anything large..... but some did not.


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This ought to be fun.

I found this video of a crane delivery of 3 New Cunningham pianos. They interview Kevin Duffy, a 5th generation piano mover here in the Philadelphia area. He explains how rigging was the most common way to deliver in Philadelphia up until the 1950's or 1960's. Enjoy:





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Some time ago there was another thread about using a crane. They are very expensive. Almost any way simply using muscle is going to be cheaper!

The person wanting the crane castigated me, quite rightly, for sarcasm but refrained from disclosing the amount the crane would have cost.


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Originally Posted by PhilipInChina
Some time ago there was another thread about using a crane. They are very expensive. Almost any way simply using muscle is going to be cheaper!

The person wanting the crane castigated me, quite rightly, for sarcasm but refrained from disclosing the amount the crane would have cost.


I don’t doubt using a crane is expensive. The word from someone in my building was that it cost $5k to lift a grand into the 2nd or 3rd floor window, I’m not sure which. That’s a New York City price and that was a number of years ago, I believe.

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If I remember correctly the price in Oslo is per hour or half hour.
It takes about 15 minutes according to people I spoke to. Costs around 1K €.

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Originally Posted by LarryK
Originally Posted by PhilipInChina
Some time ago there was another thread about using a crane. They are very expensive. Almost any way simply using muscle is going to be cheaper!

The person wanting the crane castigated me, quite rightly, for sarcasm but refrained from disclosing the amount the crane would have cost.


I don’t doubt using a crane is expensive. The word from someone in my building was that it cost $5k to lift a grand into the 2nd or 3rd floor window, I’m not sure which. That’s a New York City price and that was a number of years ago, I believe.


Craning costs to show up and then an hourly. It makes sense for the movers to be onsite and have the pianos prepared before the crane arrives. In NYC, you probably also have to deal with permits (to block a sidewalk or close a street) that many other places do not have to deal with.

In Philly, the cost will vary (of course) depending on the piano and the difficulty of the move, but the average would be between 3 and 3K.


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Some time ago there was another thread about using a crane. They are very expensive. Almost any way simply using muscle is going to be cheaper!

The person wanting the crane castigated me, quite rightly, for sarcasm but refrained from disclosing the amount the crane would have cost.


I don’t doubt using a crane is expensive. The word from someone in my building was that it cost $5k to lift a grand into the 2nd or 3rd floor window, I’m not sure which. That’s a New York City price and that was a number of years ago, I believe.


Craning costs to show up and then an hourly. It makes sense for the movers to be onsite and have the pianos prepared before the crane arrives. In NYC, you probably also have to deal with permits (to block a sidewalk or close a street) that many other places do not have to deal with.

In Philly, the cost will vary (of course) depending on the piano and the difficulty of the move, but the average would be between 3 and 3K.



$3 and $3K???



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I bought an upright long ago, a 50" Kawai. It weighed 560 pounds.

Upon delivery, two slim guys ... NOT muscular mind you ... rolled it off the truck to street level.

Then they 1-2-3 lifted it onto a high dolly and rolled it into the garage.
Then they 1-2-3 lifted it ... still on the dolly ... over the step-up into the kitchen.
Then they 3-2-1 lowered it to the floor.
I winced in mock pain as I watched.

These guys did not seem to be professionals (no pro moving equipment in sight) ... but there was no trouble.

I wonder, though, whether this dealer used these same guys for moving his grand pianos? Up stairs? Winding staircases?
I cannot imagine it. Some things just demand a professional.

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$3 and $3K???


$2 and $3K. Thanks NobleHouse.


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$3 and $3K???


$2 and $3K. Thanks NobleHouse.


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How much these movers had charged for moving the piano and did they offer moving boxes for packing other items of the home also?

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why no crane?

You need several things to crane into a building - all about access. You need large enough windows, access to firm street or parking lot near building, and permission from the building itself. We had none of those in this case.

But we do use cranes when they are a good option. Here is one of our concert grands being delivered by crane :






There was a great set of ads in Boston years ago for a piano moving company. Three guys standing under a piano hoisted by a crane.

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These guys did not seem to be professionals (no pro moving equipment in sight) ... but there was no trouble.

The experienced pros don't need any clever equipment, just skill and experience.

I had my Yamaha U1 delivered by the guy who has the contract for several of the piano stores and the main concert hall in town. He has another guy helping him for grands but he does uprights to ground floor places on his own.

Just a battered old truck with a hydraulic tail lift and a simple trolley. He had to stand the piano on its end to get it round one hallway corner. Just flipped that baby over like it was made of feathers. Not a big or young guy either, just knew exactly what he was doing and where all the balance points and centre of gravity was.


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