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Posted By: orynos the two i've limited it down to - 05/03/08 08:40 PM
Today i went to sam ash and look at the portable digital keyboards.

yamaha p140 and the kawai ep2.

I'm in between because the Kawai has more options and the yamaha has better action. The prices are 100 dollar different.

Anyone have any experience with these two keyboards that could give me pros and cons of them? Also if you have played both of these do you think they sound different because i couldn't seem to find any difference.

Which would you choose?

thanks a bunch for everyones help
Posted By: Copilot Re: the two i've limited it down to - 05/03/08 10:13 PM
Orynos just type ' Kawai ep2 ' in the SEARCH section above this page and you'll find a lot of info about this.

wink
Posted By: orynos Re: the two i've limited it down to - 05/03/08 10:18 PM
ok, sorry I totally forgot to search.
Posted By: signa Re: the two i've limited it down to - 05/04/08 01:48 AM
have you considered Yamaha YDP160 (with only $300 more)? it's a much better model than YDP140, unless you're short of money.
Posted By: orynos Re: the two i've limited it down to - 05/04/08 02:22 AM
Unfortunately it has to be portable because I want to take it to college
Posted By: Tony V Re: the two i've limited it down to - 05/04/08 04:10 AM
I'd get the EP2, but you should go with whatever action you like best, which you said was the Yamaha.

I have a Yamaha P140 and it's a great dp.
Posted By: orynos Re: the two i've limited it down to - 05/05/08 12:35 AM
Only thing with the yamaha is that it doesn't have all the extra functions like the ep2 like connecting to the computer.

Anyone know of any keyboard with action like p140 but with the accessories of ep2?

thanks
Posted By: orynos Re: the two i've limited it down to - 05/05/08 12:45 AM
never mind it has a MIDI...

but does anyone know of a cheaper one that has very similar key action to p140?

thanks again
Posted By: BeowulfX Re: the two i've limited it down to - 05/05/08 02:03 PM
Quote
Originally posted by orynos:
never mind it has a MIDI...

but does anyone know of a cheaper one that has very similar key action to p140?

thanks again
Perhaps you should also consider this:

YAMAHA P-85 @ Yamaha.com

Yamaha P-85 @ Musician\'s Friend

Yamaha P-85 @ Zzounds.com

It doesn't have a "GHE" (graded hammer effect) mechanism but only uses the "GHS" (graded hammer standard) but it's relatively cheaper and still has MIDI connectivity.
Posted By: orynos Re: the two i've limited it down to - 05/05/08 05:03 PM
ok thanks
Posted By: diinin Re: the two i've limited it down to - 05/06/08 03:13 AM
I tried both the Yamaha P140 and Kawai ep2 you mentioned, also at Sam Ash. I liked the feel of both, but couldn't tolerate the sound of the Kawai. It was far too bright for me. I liked the P140 a lot. It had good tone, action, and touch.

The P85 was decent for the money, but again, it was too harsh in tone. For me, it didn't compare to the P140...but then it's a lot cheaper, so it really depends on your priorities.
Posted By: orynos Re: the two i've limited it down to - 05/06/08 03:24 PM
I can do 1k but was looking for one with similar action/sound for cheaper.

I'll probably get the p140 but going to check one more place this weekend.

Thanks for your input diinin.
Posted By: diinin Re: the two i've limited it down to - 05/07/08 09:33 PM
orynos, make sure you go back and try them again, and spend some time on each one. I find that each time I go back, I think differently of many of them. I haven't liked the P140 as much on recurring visits, but that's just me. I really liked it the first time around. They moved it, so it may be the different location affecting the sound.
Posted By: orynos Re: the two i've limited it down to - 05/09/08 12:08 AM
ok thanks... the place I'm going to tomorrow will probably have one there and I'll see what it sounds like in a different atmosphere.

thanks for everyones help.
Posted By: speedlever Re: the two i've limited it down to - 05/09/08 01:51 AM
Are you using headphones to compare?
Posted By: orynos Re: the two i've limited it down to - 05/09/08 01:54 AM
I haven't look into head phones yet... just using whats coming out of the keyboard itself.


Also while on this topic do you recommend any really good headphones?

thanks
Posted By: speedlever Re: the two i've limited it down to - 05/09/08 11:24 AM
Do a search here on headphones. You'll find good suggestions for Grado, Sennheiser, Sony, etc.

I think it would be tough to compare the sounds of different pianos using the onboard speakers in the normal store environment with all the noise around. At least, it was for me.
Posted By: orynos Re: the two i've limited it down to - 05/09/08 06:37 PM
ah good point... if i ask for headphones would they get some for me?
Posted By: speedlever Re: the two i've limited it down to - 05/10/08 01:15 AM
There's one way to find out...
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