In my opinion, you can't go wrong with Kawai. They excel at having the best action at every price point/category. Also, Bluetooth MIDI is fun.

In my opinion, you can't go wrong with Kawai. They excel at having the best action at every price point/category. Also, Bluetooth MIDI is fun.

+1 - true having tried the PXS1000 the Kawai (which I have tried in the past) has the better action out of the two.

My recommendation would be to purchase the instrument that you enjoy playing the most, rather than concentrating too much on the thoughts of others.

Hi
I m just simply salary man at 30 and now suddenly want to learn more about piano .I'm going to chose my 1st DP and hard to decisive between kawai es110 and casio px-s1000(yamaha p125 and roland f30 is kick out of my list for some reason).
I think i must focus in key action first and as other review es110 have better key action.
Both use 2 sensor in key but casio have software solution to make 2 sensor become virtual 3 sensor .
So confuse , I don't know which one should chosse. Pls help me.

The difference between 2-sensor and 3-sensor is unimportant for a new player (and even most advanced players, IMO). Insisting on 3-sensor is like insisting that you must have a grand piano, an upright won't do. I make that comparison specifically because grands have the equivalent of a DP's 3-sensor functionality, while uprights behave more like 2-sensor DPs... the point being that, when it comes to acoustics, far more people play uprights than grands, and are very happy with them, even if they are advanced players. And there are certainly some 2-sensor DPs that I think most would agree are far better than some other 3-sensor DPs. It's just not all that important, especially for a new player. Or to extend your car analogy, it's like someone who has never driven before choosing a car because it has a 6-speed manual transmission instead of a 5-speed. In the list of top ten things to care about, it wouldn't even make the list.

Your "two-sensor" trills won't sound any different on a triple-sensor action. However playing trills on a triple-sensor action or real grand-piano action allows for a much controlled and fluent trills once you know how to take advantage of it. IMO.

The general rule is that in online discussions the "bias" is *generally* going to be in favor of Kawai, Yamaha and Roland and against Casio. But you should try for yourself.

By the way, if I'm not mistaken all the Privia series models have essentially the same action. The PX-S1000 is described as being tri-sensor.

Casio’s Privia line of digital pianos has been around for a long time. Their Tri Sensor Hammer Action II has been a proven key action that is popular and feels realistic.

The only true complaint people have against concerns bounciness and inherent noisiness (which, to be fair, is barely noticeable during play). Overall, I’ve been happy with the Privia pianos I’ve played through the years.

With the PX-S1000, Casio opted to use a different key action, one that is designed to fit the slimmer chassis. Casio calls this the Smart Scaled Hammer Action.

To be clear, these are no longer triple sensor actions; they are two-sensor actions instead.

Triple sensor actions have been Casio’s mainstay for years. When you press each key, it passes through each of the three sensors, eventually passing the lowermost sensor as you hit the bottom of the key bed.

Once you slowly release the keys, you can retrigger the sound by passing the middle sensor. As such, triple sensor actions offer more accuracy.

Casio opted to go with a new, smart, 2-sensor hammer action due to its better performance showed during thorough tests.

A two-sensor action might seem like a downgrade, but it’s not entirely true.

Casio’s action isn’t called “Smart” for nothing. Between both sensors, a software-based solution determines how deep your keypresses will be.

During play, I found that this two-sensor action is as good, if not better than the three-sensor actions available on previous Privia keyboards.

Judging by fellow reviewer’s thoughts after playing the PX-S1000 at the NAMM show, it seems like the PX-S1000 has enjoyed an unanimously positive reception.

The keys themselves are plastic and simulate ivory and ebony, giving them a textured feel ideal for play.

There’s a subtle grip on each keypress, and that’s something you don’t really expect on affordable keyboards in the PX-S1000’s price bracket.

A primary improvement of this new action is a silent mechanism that makes it one of the quietest key actions in its category.

There are also a few other minor improvements, including reduced bounciness and a slightly redesigned texture on the keys.

Apart from that, the new action felt quite similar to the previous Tri-sensor Scaled Hammer Action II regarding mechanical movement and physics.

[quote=rmns2bseen] I think many of us remember the toy pianos Casio released in the past, and can’t get over it.
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While I can understand very experienced players wanting the best, I do feel there’s a little unfair snobbery against Casio.

The PX-S1000 uses a different two sensor keybed, but according to this review it works just as well as, if not better than their tri sensor ones.

The only snobbery would come from people who never tried a lot of pianos, have little to no experience and make statements because of hearsay.

Not true in my case, I never grew up on keyboards and have no reason to be snobbish or bias at Casio (I even bought one having liked it at the store and regretted it later, an AP470, good value for the price range but ultimately failed to live up the hype). I simply call it how I see it, and I see that Yamaha, Roland and Kawai (at least the mid-range and above models) are just better (in both sound and action) - I wish people could also accept this rather than just spout out snobbery bias...

Casio were for some time the cheapest possible digital pianos with acceptable action (and unacceptable sound but you can use VST-s). However there are now other entry level digital pianos in the same price range with better action and better sound.

It's a matter of personal taste, but I think the PX-870 is better than the YDP-144 or the KDP-110. The first sentence there is probably the reason for most "anti-Casio bias". Casio is known for "cheap" but solid electronics. Kawai and Yamaha are known as acoustic piano makers. Ergo, Kawai and Yamaha are going to be better in every way. So much that goes into judging whatever musical instrument is fraught with subjectivity. I will grant that the Kawai and Yamaha "entry level" models do look a bit better, but that's just about it. In my opinion.

Just shortlist the models for your budget and head to the store to test the models. You'll find out how those models fair for your personal needs and the question of which is best will resolve itself.

Every manufacturer creates instruments according to a strategy for which they think they can compete well from. It's what suits you that counts!

That phrasing may be a bit misleading. Yes, the reviewer feels that "this two-sensor action is as good, if not better than the three-sensor actions available on previous Privia keyboards"... but your re-phrase seems to imply that he thinks it "works just as well" as the previous action in behaving like a three-sensor action, which isn't what he said. Rather, I believe he is saying that the action taken as a whole is as good or better than the previous generation. Plenty of other two-sensor boards over the years have been as good or better than some three sensor boards. Not at three sensor behavior, but at in terms of the overall playing experience. The new Casio may use software to better simulate 3-sensor behavior than what other 2 sensor boards can do, but they still don't behave exactly as 3-sensor boards. (Though again, I don't think that is a particularly necessary feature for most people, either.)

During play, I found that this two-sensor action is as good, if not better than the three-sensor actions available on previous Privia keyboards.

but according to this review it works just as well as, if not better than their tri sensor ones.

The only snobbery would come from people who never tried a lot of pianos, have little to no experience and make statements because of hearsay.

Not true in my case, I never grew up on keyboards and have no reason to be snobbish or bias at Casio (I even bought one having liked it at the store and regretted it later, an AP470, good value for the price range but ultimately failed to live up the hype). I simply call it how I see it, and I see that Yamaha, Roland and Kawai (at least the mid-range and above models) are just better (in both sound and action) - I wish people could also accept this rather than just spout out snobbery bias...

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Had I had the extra cash spare, I more than likely would have gone the Kawai route (again based on bias), that said, I don’t think the Kawai felt £500 more (hope that makes sense).

I am happy with my Casio, no it’s not perfect, but neither are half the acoustics in use out there. I sort of get a little peeved when the only piano I could afford, a piano that has good response for me, is written off by many. ...

The PX-S1000 uses a different two sensor keybed, but according to this review it works just as well as, if not better than their tri sensor ones.

https://www.pianodreamers.com/casio-px-s1000-review/

The difference between 2-sensor and 3-sensor is unimportant for a new player (and even most advanced players, IMO). Insisting on 3-sensor is like insisting that you must have a grand piano, an upright won't do. I make that comparison specifically because grands have the equivalent of a DP's 3-sensor functionality, while uprights behave more like 2-sensor DPs... the point being that, when it comes to acoustics, far more people play uprights than grands, and are very happy with them, even if they are advanced players. And there are certainly some 2-sensor DPs that I think most would agree are far better than some other 3-sensor DPs. It's just not all that important, especially for a new player. Or to extend your car analogy, it's like someone who has never driven before choosing a car because it has a 6-speed manual transmission instead of a 5-speed. In the list of top ten things to care about, it wouldn't even make the list.

p.s. -- this is not meant to denigrate whatever Casio is doing with their new action, which I haven't tried yet, and might play better regardless of how successfully it does or does not emulate the behavior associated with 3 sensors.

So deciding blind buy Kawai es110 .Thank all of you alot .