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10. KevinM - Minuet No. 1 from French Suite in B minor. No. 3 flawlessly played

11. Ido - Invention 11 (BWV 782) For the invention 1 on your video :notes are even and clean , good job. For the audio link invention 11: even better .

18. AndresVel - Two-Part Inventions, No. 9 in F minor (BWV 780) what a beautiful piece ,enjoyed from start to end .

23. pianist685 (Constantin) - If I could see you again an amazing piece played amazingly . brought out the bit sorrowful melody matching the title "see you again" perfectly .

25. Purrblast - Invention in C Major (BWV 772) notes are even and clean , good job.

27. Ganddalf - Sonata Pathetique, Second movement Even if this piece is overplayed , but your version is refreshing .

29. Flygbladet - Sonata Pathetique Mov. 1 This piece can be played by beginners ,but can also be challenging for pros .It's not hard to memorize the score ,but In order to make it sound as intended , stellar technique is required , your play is technically flawless .

33. jamiecw - Prelude in A Major Op28 No7 simple elegant .

34. sandalholme - 4 Mazurkas Op24 Nicely done !

35. Serge88 - Air on the G string flawlessly played

39. cygnusdei - Fantasia in C minor, BWV 906 Sounds as good as richter !

42. Marlings - Well Tempered Clavier / Prelude and Fugue 6 in D minor Nicely played ,especially the prelude part .

45. bSharp(C)yclist (Dan) - Invention No. 8 In F Major, BWV 779 Perfectly excuted

46. Agrajag - Jesus bleibet meine Freude - BWV 147 Enjoyed from start to end .

47. facdo - Nocturne in E flat Major, Op.9 No.2 It's overplayed but still not easy , Your play is beautiful .

52. P Westberg - Bagatelle Op. 119 No. 1 Nicely played
Posted By: tyschoco Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/15/21 02:46 PM
Guess i am one of the first this time!

01. Greta99 - Two Baltic Waltzes -"Tallinn" and "Vilnius" from "Reflections in Waltz"
A very strong start to this Recital! The "Tallinn" waltz was well conceived, very tastefully played with natural breath marks and rubato. An appropriate tempo was chosen and the mood was captured beautifully.

For the "Vilnius" waltz, it was similarly played rather well, my only critique is that the rubato in this was tending towards a little too liberal, with certain eighth notes pushing the pulse rather fast and the triplet figures lacking the rhythmic impulse to identify them. Your voicing is rather good overall with the soprano line singing above the accompaniment figures. Well done!

02. QuasiUnaFantasia - 10 pieces for piano, opus 24,7: Andantino
Very atmospherically played, you have a good sense of phrasing and your dynamics are very well executed. Very good phrasing and touch!

For the tranquillo section, it was wonderfully played as well, the only critique is the melody could actually afford to sing over the accompaniment, perhaps the melody would be more of a mezzo piano instead of a literal piano written on the score. There are some small inner voice motives that could be brought out. Perhaps a slightly (like very slightly) faster tempo would aid in giving a bit more direction to this section.

The ending's emotional impact was well conceived, albeit quite a bit of liberty was taken with the pulse (I don't have fermatas in my score, but it sounds like you were adding 2 or 3 fermates in the final section of the piece)

But overall, you pulled a very convincing interpretation of the piece and it was a very enjoyable listen, thanks for sharing it!


03. PikaPianist - Nocturne Op. 3 No.2
You are low key one of my favorite pianist to listen to in these recitals, quite excited to see what you brought to the table here smile

Aaaaaand you certainly do not disappoint, very well phrased and the expression is so well delivered. Your tirlls and ornaments are done in a way that does not intrude the mood of the music. Your rubato is very well done, its very naturally imitating a singing voice/instrument without modifying the note values of the piece.
The voicing in the poco piu lento is great, the inner voice sings our beautifully. In fact, in general, the melody is well voiced through without any hammering. You are very aware of the colour and harmonic changes in the piece and the intention is brought forward. A pleasure as always to listen to you. Look forward to seeing your next work!

06. wouter79 - Novelette, No17
This is a very difficult etude and your made a rather fair attempt at it!
I think you certainly have some good musical ideas. For the tempo you chose in the slower chordal sections you have quite a good sense of phrasing and lyrical playing coming through. You also have awareness of the dynamics and execute them accordingly. Good work!

I'll leave some critical comments in a spoiler tag.
Personally, i really find this etude to be incredibly difficult, i cannot play this for the life of me yet as it requires a high level of proficiency in technique to both play this at the standard tempo as well as to play all those broken chords and arpeggios figures. Right now, your finger-work in the sixteenth note sections are rather uneven and the tempo is heavily fluctuating.

My comment may heavily contradict any expert advice your are having now and may border on intrusive and i do not want to dictate the pieces you enjoy. However, i would suggest looking into other Heller/Gurlitt etudes or pieces that are less technically taxing. I believe you will be able to more effectively bring out your ideas and musicality in more manageable pieces with less running notes intruding on the steadiness of the playing. The chordal section proves you have a good musical instinct and i simply crave for more of that!

Please continue working with a teacher if you have one! If not, please do consider seeking expert advice as i am simply a fellow adult learner trying to play well as well haha.

09. peterws - Mozart's 23rd k488 Intro
This is a really tough work (even in this arrangement), Mozart sounds simple but requires so much technique and skill to play it well. But it is a really charming piece. You have given a very fair attempt at it and some sections have the lively youthful character for this piece.

I'll leave some more critical comments in a spoiler tag:
The pulse tends to fluctuate a lot in this piece. This is likely due to the difficult finger-work and fast passages. If at all possible in future works, do try practicing with a metronome to ensure the tempo stays consistent. But it is nonetheless a fair attempt at the work, a little bit of work on your finger-work with your teacher (if you have one) and some steady metronome practice will surely make these type of pieces comfortable within a year!

11. Ido - Invention 11 (BWV 782)
I actually played this piece a couple months ago. So it'll be interesting to hear someone else's rendition of it!
And a very good rendition it is! Very steady and a very valid tempo (i took a tempo closer to your but i am aware of a faster tempo closer to 80-90 bpm). Your touch is nice and singing and you capture the mood of the piece well.

I only have two critiques for this, the first would be in general, more direction and phrasing would serve for this piece. And secondly, and probably the hardest thing for all of us playing Bach is the interplay between the two voice. In this particular invention, there are two major things that would need to be brought out, the first is the 'passing' or 'relaying' of the main theme between the hands. The first exchange happens from the right hand to the left hand at the start of the third measure. Meaning at the third measure, the main theme in the left hand must be brought out. The relay happens throughout the piece with this theme passing between the hands in different keys.

The second and more finicky thing about this invention is the fact there an equally important motif in the form of those chromatic falling and rising notes. The headache in this invention is to allow the two main motifs to 'converse' with each other. As you gain more mileage in Bach and his inventions, you will naturally start to create this effect where the two hands are like two singers conversing with each other.

Hopefully this input was is helpful to you as much as it was for me!
Posted By: wouter79 Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/15/21 05:24 PM
Originally Posted by tyschoco
06. wouter79 - Novelette, No17
This is a very difficult etude and your made a rather fair attempt at it!
I think you certainly have some good musical ideas. For the tempo you chose in the slower chordal sections you have quite a good sense of phrasing and lyrical playing coming through. You also have awareness of the dynamics and execute them accordingly. Good work!

I'll leave some critical comments in a spoiler tag.
Personally, i really find this etude to be incredibly difficult, i cannot play this for the life of me yet as it requires a high level of proficiency in technique to both play this at the standard tempo as well as to play all those broken chords and arpeggios figures. Right now, your finger-work in the sixteenth note sections are rather uneven and the tempo is heavily fluctuating.

My comment may heavily contradict any expert advice your are having now and may border on intrusive and i do not want to dictate the pieces you enjoy. However, i would suggest looking into other Heller/Gurlitt etudes or pieces that are less technically taxing. I believe you will be able to more effectively bring out your ideas and musicality in more manageable pieces with less running notes intruding on the steadiness of the playing. The chordal section proves you have a good musical instinct and i simply crave for more of that!

Please continue working with a teacher if you have one! If not, please do consider seeking expert advice as i am simply a fellow adult learner trying to play well as well haha.

Wow, thanks for the extensive review!

I didn't find it "incredibly" difficult, others are also pretty demanding (maybe in different ways).

Yes I know it's still uneven. Decided to stop worrying about that. Teachers never helped to fix it, comments here neither. Main problem is that I don't really hear it. Yes I hear it sort--of in the recording but that does not help. I don't get expert advice at this moment anyway (no teacher). I now hope it will get better if I keep pushing. Also, this is a recording from almost a year ago, I optimistically assume it would be a bit better if I tried again now.

Sticking with slow stuff just is not an option. Fast stuff is also required for me to have fun with this.
Posted By: Ido Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/15/21 06:53 PM
Originally Posted by tyschoco
11. Ido - Invention 11 (BWV 782)

tyschoco thank you so much for the detailed comment! I agree with your input and will try to apply it in the next inversion I'm currently working on.
Focusing on the classical entries, I'll be working my way backwards from the end. First of several batches.


53. Moo smile - Rondo in D K485
Clean, rhythmical, and a pleasantly light touch. Interestingly dry (un-reverberated) recording.

52. P Westberg - Bagatelle Op. 119 No. 1
Very nice (I really like op. 119). Spotless.

51. RudolfRSK - Sonetto 47 del Petrarca
Enjoyable! Kudos for working on a non-Consolation Liszt piece, and rendering it so well.

50. Coati - The Setting Sun
You may feel unsure about this, but your performance was a very assured one. Well played!

49. Pathbreaker - Nocturne No. 3 - Op. 33
Lush, smooth, and very nice listening to.

48. Rachtoven - Piano Sonata in C Major K.545 1st Movement
Brilliant! Not a lot of polishing needed there.

47. facdo - Nocturne in E flat Major, Op.9 No.2
Elegant, and very pleasantly flowing. Excellent trills.

46. Agrajag - Jesus bleibet meine Freude - BWV 147
Amazing for one year's experience. Very nicely played.

45. bSharp(C)yclist (Dan) - Invention No. 8 In F Major, BWV 779
Sprightly, and very well executed.

44. selfishplayer - Variatio 8 from Goldberg Variations
Maddening tempo; very impressive.
Posted By: peterws Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/15/21 10:18 PM
1 Greta99

Very articulate playing from yourself which constituted a really nice listen. I never heard a wrong note, plenty of light and shade, but maybe it all needs a little spice? A little passion?
Ahhh! Got a bit of that just before the ending.
Well done!

2 QuasiUnaFantasia

Great sounding instrument, carefully and nicely played. I hadn't heard it before, sop really, I failed to appreciate its finer points!

3 Pika Pianist

There's so many excellent Russian composers out there. Maybe his other stuff isn't as good as this one. . . but I can see why you like it. Your piano is quite explosive at times . . . great job!

4 Sam S

A decent reflective and quite emotional work which I'd never heard before, like so many others I'll hear before I'm done. As you say, the good thing is the variety, and the unknown which has been unearthed!
Thanks, Sam for the music. And this one was a nice rare treat. Nicely played.

5 MarieJ

Now, we can't have a recital without Einaudi. Unthinkable! And this is sweet..
Reminds me of some old Enya tracks which had an ethereal feel.
One can float away into the stratosphere and leave the problems of the world far behind.
Or just listen and enjoy, with a drink. I chose the second option , , ,

6 Wouter 79

Fine resonant sounding piano which you did a fine job of micing up.
Yet another unknown piece, certainly a good 'un. You put a lot of feeling into this and it shows!

7 Ted Jones

A high level of mucial skill enables you to do this, Ted! The nearest I ever get is playing around a predetermined chord sequence . . .
I catch the influence of Rachmanninov in your delivery.
And I'm reminded of the "Warsaw Concerto".
Dunno how you do it! smile Have fun . . .

8 Jeff Greener

Some unusual stuff tonight! A hard complex piece, you made it flow nicely. Enjoyed it..
Posted By: peterws Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/15/21 10:48 PM
10 KevinM

You play it because you want to. What better reason? i do the same.without necessarily the continued need for improvement . . . .A good sound, good playing.. . .
Posted By: Ted Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/15/21 11:11 PM
Originally Posted by peterws
7 Ted Jones
A high level of mucial skill enables you to do this, Ted! The nearest I ever get is playing around a predetermined chord sequence . . .
I catch the influence of Rachmanninov in your delivery.
And I'm reminded of the "Warsaw Concerto".
Dunno how you do it! smile Have fun . . .

Thanks for your insightful comments. In my youth I was trained to think of music in terms of chord sequences, as many people were, and still are. Trouble is, it is as creatively confining as it is helpful, and getting rid of that mindset, with difficulty at first, freed my musical impulse considerably. Nothing wrong with chord sequences, of course, but music is much bigger. Don't worry, I always have fun these days.
Posted By: stevedoz Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/16/21 10:02 AM
13. Mateusz 'Mati' Papiernik - Loutky (Puppets), H. 92: No. 3. Columbine

23. pianist685 (Constantin) - If I could see you again

Nothing really constructive I'm afraid, but I just enjoyed listening to these two pieces so much. In each case I could close my eyes and imagine what they are portraying. Beautiful playing.
Maybe one day I could try them. Thank you so much for sharing them.
I'm moving slowly through these wonderful entries and it's been a great pleasure as always. I will do small batches of responses here and there but most likely not in order.

01. Greta99 - Two Baltic Waltzes -"Tallinn" and "Vilnius" from "Reflections in Waltz"
Of these two waltzes I think the first is very sweet and direct as a waltz. The second is more adventurous and I quite enjoyed your playing of it.

02. QuasiUnaFantasia - 10 pieces for piano, opus 24,7: Andantino
Nice choice! I agree with you about the piano music of Sibelius. I have tried some of the op 24 as it was suggested by a former teacher. That was my only introduction to his music and sadly I didn't finish any of it.
The Andantino is introspective and dreamy at times with a very satisfying close. Your performance is very nicely done!

03. PikaPianist - Nocturne Op. 3 No.2
My first thought when I started the video is that I love your camera angles. Those are exactly the angles that I want to set up! So aside from that I also like your piano sound and rendition of this piece which is new to me. The middle section is especially beautiful.

04. Sam S - Valse de l'adieu
I like this one, Sam. The melody has a natural flow that pulled me right in but also keeps interest throughout. Very well played and your piano sounds great! Happy 50th! I don't think I'm anywhere near that since I'm so sporadic in my participation. I'll have to take a look at where I am. Thanks for doing such a great job running the show. It is very important work.

05. MarieJ - Berlin Song
I was surprised by the warmth in this piece right from the start. I think you have a great balance in your playing which achieves a great harmonic sound. I think of Einaudi as music of the night. This piece works really well in the late evening, I think, but it sounds great here early in the morning too.
Posted By: Sam S Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/16/21 12:15 PM
Such a great recital - many excellent performances. Starting in the middle this time...

30. sma55 (Shepherd Abrams) - Sentimental Waltz, Op 51 No 6 Very sensitive playing. I don't remember hearing this before. That middle section is quite the contrast - what was he thinking? And that explosion at the end - a bit of an anger issue? Maybe that's why the piece is not more well known!

31. thepianoplayer416 - Christmas Oratorio #2 - Sinfonia in G (BWV248) This is quite the accomplishment! Bravo to you for writing your own transcription.

32. Pavel.K - Evening Clouds, No.9 from Album de Nina Op. 141 Very nice - sounds like great material. I went to imslp and now have my own copy! Thanks!

33. jamiecw - Prelude in A Major Op28 No7 Nice dynamics. I like the way you got softer on the repeated chords. Well done!

34. sandalholme - 4 Mazurkas Op24 All of these are just excellent. I have to confess I am always a bit confused by the mazurkas - where's the beat? - as if Chopin did not notate them as he would play them. So there is some big mystery about how they should be played. Not criticizing you. That #2 for instance - in 2 or 3 - the beginning sounds like 2 but notated in 3. And the beginning of #4 - obfuscated would be a good description. Maybe I need to be Polish to get it!

35. Serge88 - Air on the G string No shades this time? But you still have your audience - and an elf! This was great - just right for Christmas season.

36. tyschoco - Sonatina in F Major, Op 20 No 3 Excellent! Very clean and smooth and definitely in the style for the period.

37. lyricmudra - Venetian Boat Song No. 2 (Song Without Words Op. 30, No. 6) Wonderful! But the earlier one is good too, just different...

38. CasualPianist123 - Sonata Op. 40 No. 2, 1st Movt Excellent! A very dramatic 1st movement - very Beethoven like. Not what we normally think of as Clementi.

39. cygnusdei - Fantasia in C minor, BWV 906 I've played this one too. Well done! My only suggestion is to slow it down a little - or maybe I am used to hearing at the speed I played it, which is slower. It was a lot of work to learn this (I had to memorize it), so great job!

40. OE1FEU (Peter) - Intermezzo b-flat minor Op. 117 No. 2 Excellent! Loved your transitions, the way you build up tension and then release.

42. Marlings - Well Tempered Clavier / Prelude and Fugue 6 in D minor One of my favorites! Well done!

43. CarlosCC - One wave one sea Welcome back Carlos! This is great, definitely reminds me of the sea...

More to come...

Sam
Posted By: SMA55 Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/16/21 01:28 PM
Originally Posted by Sam S
30. sma55 (Shepherd Abrams) - Sentimental Waltz, Op 51 No 6 Very sensitive playing. I don't remember hearing this before. That middle section is quite the contrast - what was he thinking? And that explosion at the end - a bit of an anger issue? Maybe that's why the piece is not more well known!
Thanks for listening and for your kind words. I agree with you regarding the middle section. In my view, the middle section is really the only portion that has anything worthy of the description of the piece as a waltz. Of course, that may also have something to do with my own approach to performing the piece. As for the "explosion at the end", your hearing it as an anger issue made me laugh out loud. Because I myself hear it as simply impassioned composing. On the other hand, if you're right and it's anger, it does sound as if, immediately after that, with the return of the more subdued and mournful tone of the main theme, Tchaikovsky concludes, "What's the point of getting pissed off? In the end, life is still sad and it sucks." (Not my views on life, by the way.)
Originally Posted by Sam S
31. thepianoplayer416 - Christmas Oratorio #2 - Sinfonia in G (BWV248) This is quite the accomplishment! Bravo to you for writing your own transcription.

Thanks for your compliment.

The process of arranging & learning the piece started in March. There are orchestral performances but few piano arrangements that I'm happy with. The last version I found online contains only the last section in a slow tempo which is just 1/3 of the piece. It was a challenge to condense 6 instrument parts into something playable for 2-hand piano by moving notes around. Besides keeping the top 2 melodic lines together, I want to keep the lower lines as much as possible like a Bach fugue. Compromises were made while keeping the piece sounding close to the original. A piano won't sound like the original instruments including flutes, oboes, violins, viola & organ that can sustain long notes even with legato playing.
Posted By: peterws Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/16/21 08:32 PM
11 Ido

Some Kawi grand! It sounded grand all right. 100% on that. Great timing, and had an air of quiet capability. You been playing 5y; I been playing over 50. I don't think I'd handle that as well as you, but these things are worth a try. Could be good for me. . . Excellent!

12 JJHLH

Scriabin must take a bit of understanding; the subtleties are wholly pleasant and correct. A gentle piece with a nice lilt.

13 Mateusz

Super piece, very interesting, quirky entertaining, and professionally addressed. Wonderful!

14 Calavera

Well done for the transcription. I just done one for this recital, and they are hard work. But I had all the time in the world, so I enjoyed the process. Fine playimg.

15 rwsavory

Nice job on this. A bit repetitive, mind.

16 PianogrlNY

Nice rcording. More often than not, I'm hearing new poece from most here . . .and yours are always so pleasant and nicely played. I could listen to that piano a lot longer.

17 JP-PW Je
Here's another super piece! Great sound, evocatively played. What's not to like?

18 Andres Vel

A super view of your new looking piano, and those working hammers!
You've made excellent progress to get here so quickly and competently. Lokk forwards to seeing your future work. . .

19 Taleo

I'm liking these Satie pieces more and more. This Gnoss is definitely for the collection. You play it beautifully on your excellent sonorous piano

20 Winterflower

Beautiful sound you achieve from your PT Bluthner. It's one of my favourites too, and has a great ring to it.
You playing of this nebulous piece was thoughtful, contemplative and has a quality that makes me think this could be your genre . . .


Guys! Congrats to all of you. If the first 20 is anything to go by, this is the most proficient recital ever . . . .
You are all a bit special . . .
Second batch, working backwards. More to follow.


42. Marlings - Well Tempered Clavier / Prelude and Fugue 6 in D minor
Unbelievably good for only four years experience. Flawless.

40. OE1FEU (Peter) - Intermezzo b-flat minor Op. 117 No. 2
Very impressive playing, and both audio and video quality were great.

39. cygnusdei - Fantasia in C minor, BWV 906
Magnificent speed and consistency.

38. CasualPianist123 - Sonata Op. 40 No. 2, 1st Movt
Very interesting work, which I did not know before. Very fine (and dramatic) performance.

37. lyricmudra - Venetian Boat Song No. 2 (Song Without Words Op. 30, No. 6)
Excellent. The trills blow my mind.

36. tyschoco - Sonatina in F Major, Op 20 No 3
A very nice performance, and apparently fully memorized. All highly impressive.

35. Serge88 - Air on the G string
One of my (few) favourite Bach works. Played really well, it sounded as dignified and melancholy as I like it to be.

34. sandalholme - 4 Mazurkas Op24
Beautiful, and played with great sensitivity.

33. jamiecw - Prelude in A Major Op28 No7
I've never worked out how this piece should sound, but your choice works well, and it was played beautifully.
Posted By: Sam S Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/16/21 09:13 PM
Another batch of comments:

44. selfishplayer - Variatio 8 from Goldberg Variations That's tough! Well done! My experience with Kawai is that the actions have all been too heavy for playing something like this - a real workout.

45. bSharp(C)yclist (Dan) - Invention No. 8 In F Major, BWV 779 This has always been my favorite invention. Well done - loved it!

46. Agrajag - Jesus bleibet meine Freude - BWV 147 You did an excellent job of bringing out the hymn tune and the other moving voices, and not just the familiar melody. Excellent!

47. facdo - Nocturne in E flat Major, Op.9 No.2 Excellent left hand - that's always what I listen for first in this piece - yes, we hear it a lot, because it is so beautiful. But many players overpower the right hand with the left. Well done!

48. Rachtoven - Piano Sonata in C Major K.545 1st Movement You are braver than I am to try this. I always failed at the first Alberti bass figure in the LH, so I never got far. But you have the style and flair that is needed for this. Well done! My only suggestion is not to rush the tags at the ends of the phrases. Listen at the beginning, clap along, and see what happens when you get to measure 12. Recordings can reveal so much! But well done and keep up the good work!

49. Pathbreaker - Nocturne No. 3 - Op. 33 Excellent work! You kept it from getting muddy (nice pedal work) and I can hear all the different climaxes as they come and go. Well done!

50. Coati - The Setting Sun Welcome to the recitals! They are a great way to improve. You did great with this. I guess it is sort of a little prelude - there are a bunch more by his father, of course. Try some of the little preludes, which are similar.

51. RudolfRSK - Sonetto 47 del Petrarca Well done, especially for such little experience. Don't tell us where the errors are - of course I was watching the timer to hear the memory problem. I wouldn't have been the least bothered by it if you hadn't pointed it out, since I don't know the piece - you recovered well.

52. P Westberg - Bagatelle Op. 119 No. 1 This is one of my favorites! Well done!

53. Moo smile - Rondo in D K485 Loved it! I always thought this sounded like an opera overture, with each character getting their own melody. I like how the camera finally focussed about 2 minutes in! It went well with the music! An ambitious and long piece to tackle - well done!

More to come!

Sam
Posted By: stevedoz Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/16/21 09:42 PM
29. Flygbladet - Sonata Pathetique Mov. 1

I love this piece and would love to play it, but you do it so much more justice than I could. Very enjoyable to listen to. Thanks
Posted By: AndresVel Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/16/21 10:31 PM
So here is my first batch of comments. This recital has so many exciting entries that I cannot wait to listen to them all,

Thank you selfishplayer and peterws for your lovely comments on my piece. I am happy you enjoyed it smile I am with you @peterws, I also love seeing the hammers in action when I start working on my videos. Piano are such interesting machines.

01. Greta99 - Two Baltic Waltzes -"Tallinn" and "Vilnius" from "Reflections in Waltz" Lovely Waltzes Greta! I specially enjoy the second one, it had more textures and variations and felt in general also more rewarding to play. I am wondering now what kind of impressions do both pieces represent from both cities based on their titles. It seems that Vilnius might be the less quiet place of the two smile. Lovely playing as usual. How did you know about those pieces?

11. Ido - Invention 11 (BWV 782) Great job with the invention Ido! this one was also on my list of favorites from the entire set and would love to tackle it in the future. I think you gave very good movement to the piece and you always seemed in full control of it. I could recognize your intentions when bringing up one voice above the other specially towards bar 7 when the theme is found again on the left hand. I think voicing in baroque music is a long-term learning project and these inventions are beautiful pieces to improve on that. In certain spots perhaps the right hand voice could have been quieter to allow the left hand sing more, but you did a very good job. Here the recording might be playing a role in my impressions. From all inventions I have worked on, I found No. 8 the hardest but mostly because of the tempo I wanted to achieve. I am glad you are finding it an easier challenge. Looking forward to listening to it soon smile

21. ranjit - The Madman's Circus This was very cool ranjit! so much drama and variation in this. I loved how you switched ideas constantly but at the same time made them work together as a whole. It is very nice how you start to add textures here and there. At times it felt like listening to a Liszt Rhapsody but then it changed to a Rach or a Prokofiev Sonata :P very cool stuff (please excuse me in case you do not like these comparisons to composers' sounds. I understand improv showcase your individuality, I am just trying to put into words what I experience through your recording smile ). I cannot even imagine the amount of time you must have spent at the piano to get to this level of improv skills. Amazing! but mostly very inspiring. I read you are taking lessons. Are they targeted for improv skills?

31. thepianoplayer416 - Christmas Oratorio #2 - Sinfonia in G (BWV248) What a big effort to came out with your own arrangement!. I agree with you on the cantatas. I started listening to them recently when reading about Bach's life and some of them are now on my playlist of favorite tunes. I enjoyed your submission very much. Will you still be working on the arrangement?

51. RudolfRSK - Sonetto 47 del Petrarca Congratulations on your effort so far with this challenging piece. I think I have only listened to this sonetto once so I was not very familiar with it. I have listened mostly to the companion sonetto 104. Liszt music seems always very challenging to me (confirmed after following the score while listening). You did a very good job and it is cool you have continued working on the piece. The fact you have pointed out the list of things you would like to improve form the recording already shows how serious you take piano playing and how aware you are of the benefits of listening to your own playing. I am very much looking forward to a future updated version of this piece smile Keep us updated!
Posted By: Ted Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/17/21 02:50 AM
20. winterflower - The Night is Too Long and So Deep
Beautiful, nothing more to say really. The musical power of your improvisation gathers momentum with each recital. Such profound effect with such simple means is a lesson to us all, probably to me in particular. Ha ha ! I like those notes at 1:25. You could easily transcribe this into a written nocturne were you so inclined, or use AnthemScore or similar to do it. Then again, I suppose why bother ?
Posted By: ranjit Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/17/21 06:28 AM
Originally Posted by AndresVel
21. ranjit - The Madman's Circus This was very cool ranjit! so much drama and variation in this. I loved how you switched ideas constantly but at the same time made them work together as a whole. It is very nice how you start to add textures here and there. At times it felt like listening to a Liszt Rhapsody but then it changed to a Rach or a Prokofiev Sonata :P very cool stuff (please excuse me in case you do not like these comparisons to composers' sounds. I understand improv showcase your individuality, I am just trying to put into words what I experience through your recording smile ). I cannot even imagine the amount of time you must have spent at the piano to get to this level of improv skills. Amazing! but mostly very inspiring. I read you are taking lessons. Are they targeted for improv skills?
That is high praise, thank you! I have never taken lessons for improvisation, I find it to be more of a mode of creative expression. I have been learning classical piano with a teacher since a few months. I just try to imagine music and have gradually incorporated a lot of elements from music I listen to which I like. It is something quite personal which I would like to discover for myself, and I don't want to interfere with that process by learning stuff from a teacher. You are correct with your comparisons -- many ideas are borrowed from Liszt, as well as late Romantics. I find it to be my favorite genre by far.
Originally Posted by AndresVel
31. thepianoplayer416 - Christmas Oratorio #2 - Sinfonia in G (BWV248) What a big effort to come out with your own arrangement!. I agree with you on the cantatas. I started listening to them recently when reading about Bach's life and some of them are now on my playlist of favorite tunes. I enjoyed your submission very much. Will you still be working on the arrangement?

People learn to play all sorts of Bach pieces but without the cantatas & oratorios we're missing a big chunk of Bach's music since he wrote over 100 religious works performed in churches.

Practicing the piece is ongoing since Christmas is around the corner. There is a chance it would be played in at holiday gathering. It's possible other arrangements would be made in the future.

The first piano version is what Bach would have done with the concertos of Vivaldi & Marcello by taking the notes available and turning it into something playable on a keyboard. When an 18th century composer arranged the works of others in the same period, the keyboard version would sound Baroque. The piece can be reworked to sound like the works of Liszt or Rachmaninov in the 19th century & later. Notes and chords would be added in certain places for louder dynamics to give the piece a more piano flavor than what the earlier harpsichord & clavichord could do. The main theme would be repeated throughout the piece but the connecting bits would be different. You hear something original with reminders of the Christmas Oratorio in between.

And there can also be simplified versions. 1 approach would be removing other instrument parts and keeping only the top 2 parallel melodic lines in the treble and 1 bass line. Another way would be playing the top 2 melodic lines with LH chords as a Lead Sheet.
Posted By: sinophilia Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/17/21 08:23 AM
What a wonderful recital! So much Bach. This might make me go back to the inventions, for which I had great plans. I particularly enjoyed Invention no. 9, and of course the Fantasia - thrilling I would say. The prelude and fugue was amazing, too. I really wish I had the patience to learn more Bach but it seems even more difficult after not touching his music for years. Now I only play a simplified arrangement of his cantata 147. Agrajag, how on earth did you manage to learn Myra Hess' arrangement and play it so beautifully after just 1 year? I am in awe.

I also enjoyed Scriabin preludes very much. He's still an obscure composer to me, but I recently went to a wonderful recital by Lucas Debargue, where he alternated Scriabin and Fauré, and it was an absolute revelation. Great job Ellen and JJHLH!

Last but not least, thank you Shepherd Abrams for playing Tchaikovsky's Sentimental Waltz, it's just the kind of piece that I will enjoy learning. And I think your interpretation was perfect!
I can't possibly comment on all pieces. Ranjit's piece crosses the threshold for billable time ;0

Sonata Pathetique

@Ganddalf and @Flygbladet - I dont' think I'll ever get tired of this Sonata and very much enjoyed both of your performances! Well done!
Posted By: Flygbladet Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/17/21 04:31 PM
Will jump a bit this time and perhaps not comment on every one

01. Greta99 - Two Baltic Waltzes -"Tallinn" and "Vilnius" from "Reflections in Waltz"
What a wonderful piece played beautiful. The ever so carefully made rubato in the first part. With such perfection. The delicious trills. The second parts wonderful small rush through some notes. Loved it.
If anything: at some places I loose the base note, believe it’s because the sustain-pedal comes in too late. But yeah- did the same in my piece.

03. PikaPianist - Nocturne Op. 3 No.2
A rare gem.. By an almost forgotten composer is something I truly love. You really did this one lovely. Some part of it really sounded extremely difficult (like 1 minute in). Good one.
And yes once again great waking up the forgotten composers. Melodies that needs to be played again. And know that you stumble upon a lot of "blah". This wasn´t one of them though.

05. MarieJ - Berlin Song (to do)
This was well played. I wasn’t here during Monicas time but I understand she made a big impact on many of you. I enjoyed this one.

27. Ganddalf - Sonata Pathetique, Second movement
How fun wasn´t that. That we did the same sonata but different movements. Some part of this sonata is just so wonderful. I saw you also played the other parts. I am excited hearing the rest from yoiu.
You got quite a speed in this one. Probably correct, but I should be completely honest and say that I do prefer it a bit slower to have time to enjoy all the harmonies. But you managed this one so well - so talking about tempo has nothing to do with you playing. Just what I like.
Thank you, selfishplayer, Sam S and Quasiunafantasia for your comments. Sam: I do not claim expertise here either. Like you, I regard mazurka beats as tricky to say the least. My understanding is that 2nd and/or 3rd beats tend to be accented, but Chopin also includes the first beat as accented on occasions. There is also more than one type of mazurka. All this for me is self-taught and I err on the side of trying to keep some semblance of a dance, so use less rubato than many, rightly or wrongly. For No4, I see the opening as an instrumental intro, maybe as the dancers are taking their place on the floor. Whatever, I play them for enjoyment and as they are short I have a fighting chance of recording them without too many errors.
Posted By: Sam S Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/17/21 04:51 PM
Sitting here waiting for a HVAC service technician, so I am listening to the recital. Great times!

01. Greta99 - Two Baltic Waltzes -"Tallinn" and "Vilnius" from "Reflections in Waltz" These are wonderful! Delightfully played, very delicate and light. Well done!

02. QuasiUnaFantasia - 10 pieces for piano, opus 24,7: Andantino Excellent! We had a Nordic themed recital a few years ago - can't remember ever hearing this one though. Well done!

03. PikaPianist - Nocturne Op. 3 No.2 I love your performances - so well done and professional. This one is great. Might be too difficult for me, but I will look it up!

05. MarieJ - Berlin Song It has been a while since we had any Einaudi. I have more appreciation for his music now, or at least a lot more tolerance. If it makes someone happy to play it, whether it is Bach or video game music or Einaudi, then I will listen. This one has a definite mood. Not as frantic sound or tense as some of his pieces. Well done!

06. wouter79 - Novelette, No17 Impressive! The end of the A section sounds like - the end. Surprise, it keeps going. Well done!

07. Ted Jones - Croaghaun Triptych (Part 1) This is a different style for you Ted - I like it! More mellow (but not too much). Lots of jazz chords. Very enjoyable to listen to.

08. Greener / Jeff - Piazzolla Tango, Medley Love that skeleton at the garden piano! It does seem to fit somehow, or I can imagine it as the soundtrack for a skeleton party. Well played! You've got the style down.

09. peterws - Mozart's 23rd k488 Intro Loved it! Definitely in the peterws style, which is a good thing!

10. KevinM - Minuet No. 1 from French Suite in B minor. No. 3 Nice touch and articulation, especially in the left hand. Well done!

11. Ido - Invention 11 (BWV 782) Well done! First time on a grand - you certainly look relaxed...

12. JJHLH - Prelude in B major Op 27 No 2 Very nice. But I'm not a big Scriabin fan, even after hearing lots of his preludes over the years. I listened to it twice just to be sure... Very sensitive playing, and a light touch though!

13. Mateusz 'Mati' Papiernik - Loutky (Puppets), H. 92: No. 3. Columbine Excellent! One of the great things about the recitals is hearing pieces I would never hear. Thanks!

14. Calavera - Legend of Mana medley The result of all that hard work was worth it, I hope? Sounds great! And you learned a lot in the process I bet.

15. rwsavory - Les Barricades Mysterieuses This one is on my bucket list. Some day... Very well played. I know it is hard to keep all the held notes straight, and then to play the ornaments on top of that.

16. PianogrlNW (Ellen) - Preludes Op 11, Nos 9 & 17 Very nice. I'm not a Scriabin fan, probably because I have never played any of his pieces. Maybe they are more fun to play than listen to? But these are very well played, as I have come to expect of you. Keep it up!

17. JB_PW (Jen) - Mermaid's Lullaby Very nice. The poem is about a merman? I guess they are forsaken, since nobody every talks about a merman - the mermaids get all the attention. I'll have to look up those pieces - good sight reading material. Well done!

18. AndresVel - Two-Part Inventions, No. 9 in F minor (BWV 780) You're doing great for such a short period of time. You don't hear this one very often. Loved that legato melody above the other hand and the different articulations. Well done!

19. Talao - Gnossienne No. 1 Well done! So relaxing and meditative...

20. winterflower - The Night is Too Long and So Deep Lovely - so light and delicate - and sad.

21. ranjit - The Madman's Circus Did you ever see the movie Freaks from 1932? A pre-code film, uncensored. Disturbing to wimpy modern audiences. Banned in some countries. I was initially repulsed and fascinated, but now I love it. Haven't seen it in years. This would be good film music for it. Excellent improv!

22. stevedoz - Dawn Welcome to the recitals! Sounds difficult. This was great, well done for your first recital performance!

23. pianist685 (Constantin) - If I could see you again Very pleasant to listen to. What more can we ask for? Thanks for playing!

24. vte - Notturno Op 28 No 4 For some reason I am reminded of a warm South American night with a full moon shining through the palm trees. But I have never been to S. America, so it's just my imagination. Well done!

25. Purrblast - Invention in C Major (BWV 772) What's not to like? Steady tempo, crisp articulation, lots of excitement and even some dynamics. Well done!

26. lilypad - The Great Pumpkin Waltz Loved it! There's something so satisfying about all those jazz chords. And the rhythm. Well done!

27. Ganddalf - Sonata Pathetique, Second movement You should be really proud of this Ganddalf. Yes, there are little problems and things that could be improved, but what an accomplishment to get it to this level for an amateur player. Well done!

28. Saan Saturday - The Cat and the Mouse Loved it! The cat and the mouse are so clear. We should be watching a Tom and Jerry cartoon (do they have those in Germany?).

29. Flygbladet - Sonata Pathetique Mov. 1 Quit beating yourself up! This is really great and a significant accomplishment. I'll tell you the same thing I told Ganddalf - you should be really proud of this. For an amateur player to play such a difficult piece so well is something to celebrate. Well done!

Another great recital. Many excellent pieces and great performances! Thanks everyone for participating.

Sam
Posted By: stevedoz Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/17/21 05:48 PM
Thank you Sam S for your very kind words. I've really enjoyed listening and admiring people's playing.
Posted By: AndresVel Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/17/21 10:29 PM
thank you Sam for your comment on my submission. I am glad you liked it smile
Thank you also pianoplayer416 for your insights into the arranging process. It is very interesting and impressive at the same time.

Here my second group of comments.

02. QuasiUnaFantasia - 10 pieces for piano, opus 24,7: Andantino What a great contribution to this recital! To the question of which composer would I like to have composed more for piano, my answer was always Sibelius. I deeply love his Symphonies (his 5th is perhaps my favorite symphony), and his violin concerto. I knew he head composed a bit for piano but had not actually explored those composition since I thought they were just a handful of them. Thank you for sharing this. Now I will go and listen to his piano pieces for sure. I loved your playing, it moved as you intended to, after a couple of seconds I just closed my eyes and listened. What a beautiful lyrical midsection. You beautifully played with tempo stretching some phrases tastefully. The only thing that I noticed was that sometimes the sound was a bit dry, specially in the middle section. Some more pedaling could perhaps help. This was very enjoyable, thank you very much for sharing :))))

12. JJHLH - Prelude in B major Op 27 No 2 Lovely Scriabin as always John! I liked this one a lot. I also like a lot the artwork you use in your videos. I am wondering now how you pair them together? Do you make a painting specifically for each piece? Or do you check what you have and pair them together? thank you for sharing smile

22. stevedoz - Dawn congratulations on your first ever submission to a recital! I had not heard this piece before and I do not think I know the composer either. Thank you for showing us some new music. I liked your playing. Very nice use of dynamics. I think you did a very good job in the opening section as well. Making the piano sign with repeated notes is no easy task. I did not get the impression you were struggling with the piece or that it was too hard for you. Great stuff smile

32. Pavel.K - Evening Clouds, No.9 from Album de Nina Op. 141 Beautiful piece. I remember playing and enjoying a lot two pieces from Gretchaninov's children's album, but did not know any more music by him. Thank you for showing us more of his compositions.

42. Marlings - Well Tempered Clavier / Prelude and Fugue 6 in D minor Awesome playing Marlings! It is so cool to be able to work on WTC. I cannot wait to do it. I think you showcased great pianist qualities here. You did very good o the Prelude, specially given the tempo you are targeting. It is true that in some spots you might lose a bit the pulse but I think it is something that could be solved with a bit more polishing. In the Fugue, I think you were gaining confidence and energy as the piece went on, and started to play more with the voices. I would try to do this at the beginning as well, specially when each voice sings the theme for the first time. It is clear however, that you can handle the three voices. I really enjoyed your submissions :)) Thank you for sharing.

52. P Westberg - Bagatelle Op. 119 No. 1 P Westberg, congratulations on your first recital as well! I hope you keep joining us in the future. What a fun piece! It sounds really fun to play. I think you did very good, gave a good momentum to the piece and seemed to be in control all the time. I was following the score while listening and I think you did a good job with the articulation. I would try perhaps to add a bit more dynamic variation to it. I enjoyed your playing very much.
Posted By: Serge88 Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/18/21 01:32 AM
Here's the first batch,

01. Greta99 - Two Baltic Waltzes -"Tallinn" and "Vilnius" from "Reflections in Waltz"
Anything goes ! Ok, nothing to say it's just wonderful.

02. QuasiUnaFantasia - 10 pieces for piano, opus 24,7: Andantino
Beautiful !

03. PikaPianist - Nocturne Op. 3 No.2
Well done and good recording.

04. Sam S - Valse de l'adieu
I enjoyed your piece. I just noticed you're using a bluetooth pedal with a tablet. I got one but I can't play with a second pedal.

05. MarieJ - Berlin Song
Interesting piece. Well done !

06. wouter79 - Novelette, No17
Interesting two parts piece.

07. Ted Jones - Croaghaun Triptych (Part 1)
Good improvisation ! I enjoyed it.

08. Greener / Jeff - Piazzolla Tango, Medley
Nice performance ! And your recording setup sound really good.

09. peterws - Mozart's 23rd k488 Intro
A piece from Mozart is always a winner for me.

10. KevinM - Minuet No. 1 from French Suite in B minor. No. 3
Beautiful piece, well played!
Posted By: marklings Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/18/21 11:41 AM
Another great recital, lots of inspiration for me. Thanks Sam for all your efforts.

Below my comments.

Sidenote for SAM, I mistyped my nick, its marklings, not marlins. Can you change that, so that in the archives it will fall under my proper nickname ? Thanks if possible.

01. Greta99 - Two Baltic Waltzes -"Tallinn" and "Vilnius" from "Reflections in Waltz" Really nice, very expressive, very inspired, congratulations

05. MarieJ - Berlin Song Very nice, I am not a fan of Einaudi's but I might change my mind over this.

15. rwsavory - Les Barricades Mysterieuses I absolutely love this one. I think your interpretation is spot on, a lot of work into that shows; since you don't care for suggestions I might say I would play it a tad faster.

16. PianogrlNW (Ellen) - Preludes Op 11, Nos 9 & 17 I am not a big fan of Scriabin myself but this is very very good. So expressive, much less easy than it seems; congratulations a really nice performance.

19. Talao - Gnossienne No. 1 Just the way it should be played !

20. winterflower - The Night is Too Long and So Deep Enjoyed, charming, dreaming, nice harmonies

25. Purrblast - Invention in C Major (BWV 772) I like a lot this one. Your playing is flawless, no question. Since you don't mind a couple of ideas: maybe a little bit faster ? Phrasing a tad looser ?

26. lilypad - The Great Pumpkin Waltz Nice piece, didn't know it, very well played, expressive, conveys a sense of calm and beauty, really enjoyed it.

27. Ganddalf - Sonata Pathetique, Second movement Well, for what is worth I think it's an excellent interpretation, congratulations. The recording does not give it justice though, low volume, too much reverberation.

29. Flygbladet - Sonata Pathetique Mov. 1 Good ! The part with the octaves on the left is quite tiring and you play it flawlessly. Also the following minuet like part, , nice delicate, appropriately fast. Very nice work indeed. If I really need to be picky there are some inequalities in the fast passages. Personally I would play the initial part a tad faster. In any case you engaged in a risky piece, well known to anyone and came out IMO very well.

30. sma55 (Shepherd Abrams) - Sentimental Waltz, Op 51 No 6 I find your interpretation absolutely adequate, really enjoyed it. It's romantic and it should sound romantic !

34. sandalholme - 4 Mazurkas Op24 Many years of experience and it shows ! Absolutely professional level ! One of the best if not the best of this lot. Congratulations.

38. CasualPianist123 - Sonata Op. 40 No. 2, 1st Movt A tough nut to crack, but you came out very well IMO. The recording is somehow feeble and does not give it justice.

39. cygnusdei - Fantasia in C minor, BWV 906 A very difficult one, quite challenging. It seems to me your technique is appropriate though. With more work it can only get better. In any case I enjoyed it a lot.

40. OE1FEU (Peter) - Intermezzo b-flat minor Op. 117 No. 2 Another pro level performance! Flawless, excellent.

42. Marlings - Well Tempered Clavier / Prelude and Fugue 6 in D minor Self comment, can I do that? The fugue is much less polished than the prelude, needs more working, the embellishments with the left are really hard.

45. bSharp(C)yclist (Dan) - Invention No. 8 In F Major, BWV 779 Nice, works out fine. I would play faster though.

46. Agrajag - Jesus bleibet meine Freude - BWV 147 Ok, my weak spot. This one for some reason always brings tears to my eyes and your interpretation is no exception ! Brings out the serenity, perfect beauty of this one. The different voices come out perfectly fine in case you are worried. There are some obvious mistakes in the end but do not detract from the pleasure of listening. I am always surprised as to why a piece so severe in principle is actually so moving. Well, thank you for this. Can I ask what transcription you used?

51. RudolfRSK - Sonetto 47 del Petrarca A tough one but you came out ok IMO. You point out some obvious areas for improvements, ok, needs some working but on a very strong basis. Key elements of technique and interpretation are clearly there. Not far from a pro level performace I believe.
Posted By: Ido Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/18/21 06:43 PM
selfishplayer- thank you for listening and commenting!

peterws - it's great to get such a comment from a musician I look up to, thank you so much.

AndresVel - Thank you! You may have struggled with invention 8, but you still did a remarkable job with it, and with such a short experience. I was nowhere near that level after a year of playing!

Sam- thank you for listening and commenting! And for making this recital happen.
Posted By: Ido Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/18/21 07:17 PM
10. KevinM - Minuet No. 1 from French Suite in B minor. No. 3
Wow, great job Kevin, you nailed it. And you make it look so easy. Superb performance.

12. JJHLH - Prelude in B major Op 27 No 2
Beautiful

30. sma55 (Shepherd Abrams) - Sentimental Waltz, Op 51 No 6
I know you like critical comments...
But I simply enjoyed it so much. That's the first time I hear this piece and I can't imagine a better introduction to it. Thank you.

36. tyschoco - Sonatina in F Major, Op 20 No 3
Really really great performance. You captured the style perfectly.

39. cygnusdei - Fantasia in C minor, BWV 906
I had to double check that I wasn't listening to some professional performance on YouTube. Impressive!
Posted By: peterws Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/18/21 07:33 PM
21 Ranjit

Wih a bit more experience under your belt, these impros will come out more logical. if you don't do logical, you're hitting wrong notes with gay (!) abandon and recovering, improvising on the fly as you do. I guess mental improvisation isn't the same as muscle memory impro.
And yet, as with Ted, I feel an empathy and almost a stricture without stricture.
I can see you were not in the best of moods.
Well done. Darn sight better than I could do!
Posted By: peterws Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/18/21 08:00 PM
22 Stevedoz

A darned nice submission; it's not too hard for you. You're playing it well. It sperkles with gentle energy, and powerfully his home at the same time. Lovely harmonys.
Great job.

23 Pianist685

Lovely sound, very much in tune, and the echo gives it a sweet ring. Excellently played, this was a treat including the sound separation in evidence.

24 vte

I'm sure you'll get good critical advice, but for your level, excellent. Back off the pedal, though. Judicious use only!

25 Purrblast

This is the only invention I've played, and it was hard work for me. A great instructional device, you handled it in a very competent manner. I love the ending, like "YAAAY!! I got there!!!"
It's like that for me everytime I play it!

26 Lilypad

Great, Lily, and your piano sounds super too, like a top- liner. If I might suggest, your left hand chords. The last note of each trio could be played staccato to lend it more bite.
Not an easy rhythm to maintain, you're doing a fine job which can only get better as you get used to different styles of play.

27 Ganddalf

Beethoven ain't easy, especially as one ages. I wouldn't dare attempt any of those long stretches which give his music such depth. You still sound excellent, though perhaps you could give it more strength around the 2 minute mark.

28 Saan Saturday

This music definitely has its claws out! This isn't cats playing . . . .I'm scratching my head, but I liked it!
Posted By: stevedoz Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/18/21 09:21 PM
Thank you so much to AndresVel and peterws for your very supportive comments.
I feel very encouraged to keep playing as I've never enjoyed playing this much before.
One day I'd love to have the courage to play something live to someone else smile
I'm still enjoying going through the recital. Thanks everyone...
Posted By: Agrajag Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/18/21 09:31 PM
I appreciate the warm welcome. selfishplayer, QuasiUnaFantasia, Sam S, sinophilia and marklings, I'm glad you enjoyed it, I'm grateful for the feedback.

marklings, It's Myra Hess' transcription. I completely agree on its inherent beauty, it's the main reason I settled on learning it. It has certainly become my favourite piece in my repertoire so far.

sinophilia, I can only postulate, but I'd like to think my biggest advantage to be my already developed finger dexterity and sense of rhythm from some guitar and lots of Guitar Hero in my youth. Coupled with consistent practice and a decent ear, I might be well rounded among the skills required of this instrument.

29. Flygbladet - Sonata Pathetique Mov. 1 I've been trying to learn this for the past few months as well, and I can appreciate the difficulty of just playing through it without stopping even once. Well done.
Posted By: AndresVel Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/18/21 10:14 PM
Some more comments from my side

03. PikaPianist - Nocturne Op. 3 No.2 What an amazing first listen for this piece. Thank you for showing us such beautiful compositions. There is so much sentiment in your playing, the amount of detail and intention you are able to create from each phrase is amazing. Your recording quality both soundwise and videowise makes this even more enjoyable. The level of production and playing of your recordings is very top level and something to strive for for sure. The tone of your piano definitely suits the piece. Amazing in all ways laugh

13. Mateusz 'Mati' Papiernik - Loutky (Puppets), H. 92: No. 3. Columbine What an interesting piece. I loved every second of it. You played very good with dynamics to keep things interesting. Thank you also for the information on the story of the piece. It definitely helps to create one's own story while listening. I hop you keep returning to these recitals smile

23. pianist685 (Constantin) - If I could see you again Great playing as usual! I have to admit I am not a huge fan of these kind of pieces, but you definitely succeeded at adding a lot of passion and feeling to this interpretation. I would reduce the reverb a bit, but this is just a minor detail. Very well done :))

33. jamiecw - Prelude in A Major Op28 No7 This is a very lovely prelude. I really wish it would be just a bit longer :P I think you did lovely. The only thing I can think of as a suggestion based on the several times I have listened to this prelude before, is to add a bit more of dynamic variation so the short climax is more notorious and perhaps reduce a bit the pedaling in some phrases. Good job smile

43. CarlosCC - One wave one sea This was beautiful. Cool that you experiment a bit with your DP sounds. Thank you for sharing smile

53. Moo smile - Rondo in D K485 Great job with this rondo Moo. Pieces from the classical era are for sure very challenging and daunting and I think you did very good with this one. The only suggestion I could perhaps think of it is to work a bit on voicing in certain bits to better bring out some of the motifs or elements of the piece. Thank you for sharing smile
Thank you, marklings, for your very generous comments. Really glad you enjoyed it.
Posted By: Sam S Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/19/21 10:54 AM
Originally Posted by marklings
Sidenote for SAM, I mistyped my nick, its marklings, not marlins. Can you change that, so that in the archives it will fall under my proper nickname ? Thanks if possible.

Check it now...

Sam
Posted By: Ganddalf Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/19/21 11:32 AM
29: Flygbladet Sonata Pathetique, first movement.
Very fun indeed that we happened to share the two first movements of the same Beethoven sonata. You did the hard part, of course, and I want to congratulate you with a very fine performance. It is quite unusual to hear an amateur performance of this sonata at your level.
What I noticed first of all was that you managed to express the core of the music in such a good way. Your tempo is excellent - in fact I would say that you could even play it a bit slower. I have heard professional performances of this sonata at lower speed. As you know I'm familiar enough with this sonata to know where the technical difficulties are. However, I had very little opportunity to practice the last year and I couldn't play the way you do it at the present stage.
I appreciate your comment to my performance. You are probably right that I keep a too high tempo. And of course I know about all details I could have played in a better way.
I may consider playing the last movement on a later occasion. However, next time I'm going to play something completely differet.
Posted By: tyschoco Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/19/21 01:52 PM
Next Batch of Comments for me! Some really nice pieces i have never heard before. laugh

04. Sam S - Valse de l'adieu

Well played! The melody was beautifullly phrased and the balance between the hands was well managed. Your use of rubato was quite good and the expression comes through. Perhaps one small thing is to perhaps bring out the rising chromatic notes in the bass to help provide a sense of direction and resolution. A pleasure to listen to!

05. MarieJ - Berlin Song

What a beautiful piece! Gonna have to add that to my list of pieces i will play. In your post your already seem aware of the issues (rhythm tightness, voicing, pedalling etc). But i have to say that it really a splendid product despite the little blemishes in the piece. You capture the atmosphere and mood of this work very well and you sound like you enjoy these, would love to hear more from you!

10. KevinM - Minuet No. 1 from French Suite in B minor. No. 3

Another bach! Good job with voicing the right hand melody. It was a pretty good attempt considering you have not touched this in awhile. Keep up the good work!

12. JJHLH - Prelude in B major Op 27 No 2

Generally its very well polished! You have a sense of phrasing and you make good use of rubato. You seem relatively aware of the small rhythm changes and you are aware of the style and have clean pedaling. Good job!

13. Mateusz 'Mati' Papiernik - Loutky (Puppets), H. 92: No. 3. Columbine

Never heard of this composer, should be an interesting listen.

Its a charming little performance, i love your attention to the dynamic markings and you are very much in the waltz style. You bring out the mood changes where appropriate as well and you are very secure in this. My only nitpick is the main theme's pulse/tempo is a little too different compared to the majority of the piece. But other than that, everything is good!

Side note: took me awhile to find the score as its apparently Book I , H 137 1st piece instead of the written H 92 number 3 lol

14. Calavera - Legend of Mana medley

A very enjoyable listen! Good to hear some modern/game soundtrack pieces around here. I thoroughly enjoyed it and there really is nothing much to critique. Its nice and stable, you have the poly -rhythms well sorted out and your pedaling is very clean and you make the most of the instrument you have. Good work!
Posted By: Talão Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/19/21 06:27 PM
Thank you very much peterws, Sam S, and marklings for taking the time to listen to my submission and providing feedback and encouragement!
Posted By: Talão Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/19/21 06:28 PM
Here goes my first batch. Loving everything so far!

01. Greta99 - Two Baltic Waltzes -"Tallinn" and "Vilnius" from "Reflections in Waltz"
Relaxing and waltzy, as in, with that dance-y feel I myself can't quite capture yet (when I play a waltz). I like when the intensity picks up toward the end of the 2nd piece. Very enjoyable to listen to. I didn't know these two compositions before. Adding them to my list.

02. QuasiUnaFantasia - 10 pieces for piano, opus 24,7: Andantino
Sad to include myself in the group of people who had never heard anything by Sibelius before today. I love getting introduced to new composers and new music and this recital is great for that. You played beautifully and it made me feel lots of different things. Loved the range of intensity in this piece, from delicate/light fluttery parts all the way to the powerful, but still positive in their intensity (as opposed to dark and somber), parts. I want to learn this! I'm also positively impressed by the FP-30 sound.

03. PikaPianist - Nocturne Op. 3 No.2
Love the sound of your Estonia. I was unfamiliar with this piece and this composer. Gorgeous piece and you played amazingly. Not much to say here. The change of mood at 2:11 is indeed satisfying.

04. Sam S - Valse de l'adieu
I'm a big fan of Paul Barton and watch his channel with some regularity. I hadn't heard this piece before either and, in fact, I don't think I had ever heard a piece in F# minor. Lovely piece, lovely sound, and lovely mood. I can't explain why, but this reminded me a bit of Yann Tiersen's style. Is that another small-ish piano (or clavichord?) behind your piano?

05. MarieJ - Berlin Song
I was familiar with Einaudi, but not this piece. It sounds very "full" in the sense that there are a lot of notes being played together (haven't seen the sheet), which poses a difficulty that I think you handled very well: voicing. The melody comes through and doesn't get swollen by the other notes. It gave me a very pleasant sense of movement, as if I'm journeying toward somewhere great but haven't gotten there yet.

06. wouter79 - Novelette, No17
Another unfamiliar piece to me. Very nicely played! I particularly like the contrast between the A and B parts and how they fit together.

07. Ted Jones - Croaghaun Triptych (Part 1)
Interesting that you used a tape recorder! It gave the recording an "old school" kind of sound. I'm always awe of this level of improvisation ability. I'd love to be able to sit at the piano and just let my imagination (and hands) flow wherever they feel like, with on-the-fly adjustments and swings, while still sounding like music :-) I closed my eyes and imagined some cliffs while listening to you. Very enjoyable.

08. Greener / Jeff - Piazzolla Tango, Medley
The way the piece begins and that photo of the skeleton totally made me think of a scary movie (maybe Friday the 13th or something) :-)
I'm not too familiar with all the kinds of Tango that exist out there, so this one sounds different from the kind I'm used to listening to. It still feels like a piece to be danced to with a nice rhythm and swing to it. Very nicely played!

09. peterws - Mozart's 23rd k488 Intro
Ah, Mozart! I can't wait to get into his more intricate work. I had never heard this particular piece before, but I love it (and your playing)! It's so weird that you couldn't find the score for it.

10. KevinM - Minuet No. 1 from French Suite in B minor. No. 3
There's a very beautiful and pleasant smoothness/softness to your performance that comes across to me. Like a velvety quality to the sound. I love Bach and this was a joy to listen to. Great job!
Posted By: Sam S Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/19/21 08:32 PM
Originally Posted by Talão
04. Sam S - Valse de l'adieu
Is that another small-ish piano (or clavichord?) behind your piano?

A not so small, 7 foot long, double manual harpsichord. I have played it in the recitals before, but it's been awhile. Maybe soon...

Sam
Thank you very much tyschoco, peterws, Pathbreaker, Sam S, AndresVel, Serge88 and Talão for your kind comments!

@tyschoco: Yes, I put in some extra pauses near the end. It was by design, but I have misgivings about it, and these days I leave them out. Also, I now put the emphasis slightly differently. Essentially, I am still figuring out how the piece should sound. None of the professional recordings hit the nail on the head, as far as I am concerned.

@AndresVel: It's a well-kept secret, but Sibelius wrote a lot of music for piano. About 150 works for piano alone, and another 200 or so that include piano (songs, chamber works). Very few pianists seem to have recorded his complete piano works, so most of this music is hidden very effectively.

@Talão: It was not the FP-30 that you heard; it was the Ivory II Steinway B, which I use most of the time. The FP-30 itself has an okay sound, but it is not easy to record it, and I just hook up a PC to the piano and play through VI's - mostly Ivory II.
Posted By: lilypad Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/19/21 10:39 PM
Here's my first batch of comments. I'm amazed at how good everyone sounds and after listening to a few of the earlier recitals this year, you folks keep getting better. Bravo!

Thank you Sam S., marklings and peterws for listening, encouragement and feedback on my piece.

01. Greta99 - Two Baltic Waltzes -"Tallinn" and "Vilnius" from "Reflections in Waltz" The waltzes were lovely and expressively played.

02. QuasiUnaFantasia - 10 pieces for piano, opus 24,7: Andantino Thank you for sharing Sibelius. What gorgeous music!

03. PikaPianist - Nocturne Op. 3 No.2 Delightful discovery of the Korganov and beautifully played.

04. Sam S - Valse de l'adieu Thank you, Sam for putting these recitals together. They are indeed a great source of music discoveries and your piece continues the trend.

05. MarieJ - Berlin Song So nostalgic to hear Einaudi again. Very pleasant listening that invites meditation.

06. wouter79 - Novelette, No17 I really enjoyed the contrast between the sections. I'm sorry about your computer difficulties, but not sorry that I got to hear this piece.

07. Ted Jones - Croaghaun Triptych (Part 1) I've only listened to your improvisations from the last few quarterly recitals, but this is my favorite so far.

08. Greener / Jeff - Piazzolla Tango, Medley Not familiar with the original composition, so I couldn't tell which was Piazzolla and which was your improv, but the overall effect was thoroughly enjoyable.

09. peterws - Mozart's 23rd k488 Intro Nice job on the transcription! I've been pondering whether to attempt a transcription project and after hearing how well yours turned out, might at least give it a try.

10. KevinM - Minuet No. 1 from French Suite in B minor. No. 3 Bach can sound kind of dry to me sometimes, but you made it sound light and lively.

11. Ido - Invention 11 (BWV 782) Well played! Congratulations on getting to play the grand.

12. JJHLH - Prelude in B major Op 27 No 2 Beautiful! Nice choice for a recital piece.

13. Mateusz 'Mati' Papiernik - Loutky (Puppets), H. 92: No. 3. Columbine Delightful piece! Thank you for sharing it.

14. Calavera - Legend of Mana medley Very nice achievement with the arrangement. Time well spent, I'd say.

15. rwsavory - Les Barricades Mysterieuses Lovely piece. I'm familiar with it from a classical guitar CD and it's a favorite.

16. PianogrlNW (Ellen) - Preludes Op 11, Nos 9 & 17 Very nice. I'm glad you decided to use these pieces for the recital.

17. JB_PW (Jen) - Mermaid's Lullaby Beautiful piece by an unfamiliar composer. Thank you.
Posted By: Coati Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/19/21 11:36 PM
QuasiUnaFantasia, and Sam, thank you for your comments on my submission. I'm enjoying joining in on the recital, and hearing feedback.

I'm also enjoying hearing everyone's music (I've listened in before in the past as a lurker, but never submitted anything myself, or commented). I hope to have a comment for everyone, and will be writing them in batches, but it may take a while to get through the whole recital. Here is the first set.

01. Greta99 - Two Baltic Waltzes -"Tallinn" and "Vilnius" from "Reflections in Waltz"
Fantastic waltzes, and performed impeccably. The first had a a wonderful, dreamlike, swaying character to it, while the second had more of a darker tonality, definitely a Baltic sound, and dramatic shifts.

02. QuasiUnaFantasia - 10 pieces for piano, opus 24,7: Andantino
I love Sibelius's symphonies, and of course, Finlandia, but wasn't familiar with his compositions for piano. Thank you for sharing this wonderful performance and introducing me to this music.

03. PikaPianist - Nocturne Op. 3 No.2
Gorgeous nocturne, just a beatiful sound throughout. Based on your comment, I was listening for the mood shift, and was not disappointed. Thanks for sharing the rare gem you have found. I'll have to see if I can find more of Korganov's music to listen to.

04. Sam S - Valse de l'adieu
This piece strikes me as having an interesting contemplative mood, but with a steady persistence. Congratulations on 50 recitals, and thanks for all of the work in making these happen.

05. MarieJ - Berlin Song
It's through these recitals that I became familiar with Einaudi, and I'm pleased to hear another piece of his for the first time. This does have an improvisational feel, while still feeling characteristic of the composer. Wonderfully played, with great expression.

06. wouter79 - Novelette, No17
Sorry to hear about your computer, hope that they finish a proper repair, or provide a replacement, soon. Thanks for introducing me to yet another lesser-known composer, and one who seems to have been rather prolific. This piece has a very stately sound and orderly structure. I feel it is sort of harkening back to classical composition, despite being in the romantic period. You've captured that feeling well, I think.

07. Ted Jones - Croaghaun Triptych (Part 1)
Interesting improvisation -- I'm probably reading to much into it, but I wasn't difficult to imagine picturing coastal cliffs seen through a fog when hearing this, especially during the opening, with cascading phrases of halting, occaisionally dissonant, music. You mentioned you've returned to listening to this for years now. Do you ever transcribe your improvisations and play them again, or do you always improvise new music when playing?

08. Greener / Jeff - Piazzolla Tango, Medley
The Exorcist theme at the opening definitely took me by surprise. I love Piazzolla's tangos. I was able to visit Buenos Aires just before travel shut down everywhere (relatively long ago now), and this pleasantly took me back and reminded me of that trip. Good performance, I think it sounds like you had fun with it, as one should with tango.

09. peterws - Mozart's 23rd k488 Intro
Delightfully played, this is a wonderful piece. If you had a flub, you covered it extremely well, as I hadn't noticed at all.

10. KevinM - Minuet No. 1 from French Suite in B minor. No. 3
Really, really well done. The intricacy is played fluidly, and there's a great separation of voices, even in the very delicate quiet sections.

11. Ido - Invention 11 (BWV 782)
Well performed, this sounds very polished already to me. The grand piano had a great sound as well, and you seem to have adapted to it effortlessly.

12. JJHLH - Prelude in B major Op 27 No 2
I usually associate Scriabin with his later atonal music, so this piece was different from what I anticipated. Well played, and thank you for sharing some of Scriabin's earlier work.

13. Mateusz 'Mati' Papiernik - Loutky (Puppets), H. 92: No. 3. Columbine
Really enjoyed this one, such a great lilting melody. I could picture the puppets dancing across the stage on their strings. Excellent performance.

14. Calavera - Legend of Mana medley
I really enjoyed playing Secret of Mana when I was younger, and the music has stuck with me, though somehow I never ended up playing any of the other games in the series. I think I can hear the influence of some of the themes from that game still present here. Excellent job on the arrangement. Arranging seems like difficult work, and you've come up with something great here. It is performed beautifully as well.

15. rwsavory - Les Barricades Mysterieuses
A beautiful piece, and you convey the mood very well with your expressive playing. I went back and listened to your earlier submission, and it's very interesting to hear a progression from a piece that is a work in progress to one that has become polished. I may have noticed a couple of hesitations between phrases earlier on, but such an excellent performance overall, and the improvement from earlier this year is impressive.

16. PianogrlNW (Ellen) - Preludes Op 11, Nos 9 & 17
As I mentioned in my comment to JJHLH, I always think of Scriabin's atonal music, and wasn't very familiar with his earlier work. I like these preludes, and their pleasantly relaxed and calm mood. An excellent performance, you make these sound effortless.

17. JB_PW (Jen) - Mermaid's Lullaby
This is a charming piece, and you've played it well and expressively. I'm still at the stage where a lot of the music within reach for me was written for children, so it is nice to discover some more repertoire that is well composed at that level, and I might look into this collection. Thank you for submitting it to the recital.

18. AndresVel - Two-Part Inventions, No. 9 in F minor (BWV 780)
Very well done with this. I'm quite impressed with your tackling several two-part inventions so early on, and it sounds like you are getting a lot of value from learning them. Excellent voicing and phrasing here, steady pacing, and I think your emphasis on articulation shows. I haven't attempted any of those fancy ornaments myself yet, but they seem fun to play. Well played, and I look forward to tackling one of these myself some day.

19. Talao - Gnossienne No. 1
Satie is one of my absolute favorite composers for piano. Really enjoyed your performance, I think you expressed the complex mood of the piece so well -- something like a calm abiding tinged with a weird sort of otherworldly melancholy. Your audio recording setup sounds great and the piano comes through so well; pity about the creaky pedal, but once addressed you can rest assured everything sounds fantastic.

20. winterflower - The Night is Too Long and So Deep
Very impressed with this as an improvisation. I agree with you that the opening is lovely. I also really like the chord signaling the subsequent shift in tone at around 1:25, and the development of the theme from there. Well thought out, and played with feeling. Do you compose?
Posted By: Talão Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/20/21 12:52 AM
Originally Posted by Sam S
A not so small, 7 foot long, double manual harpsichord. I have played it in the recitals before, but it's been awhile. Maybe soon...

Sam

Ooooh! If you recall the recital number, I'd love to go back and listen to that. Otherwise, I'll wait until your next performance on it. 7 feet! Wow, the angle/perspective really played a trick on my perception. It's pretty big then.
Posted By: Sam S Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/20/21 01:16 AM
Originally Posted by Talão
Originally Posted by Sam S
A not so small, 7 foot long, double manual harpsichord. I have played it in the recitals before, but it's been awhile. Maybe soon...

Sam

Ooooh! If you recall the recital number, I'd love to go back and listen to that. Otherwise, I'll wait until your next performance on it. 7 feet! Wow, the angle/perspective really played a trick on my perception. It's pretty big then.

Way back in Recital #48. Looking at it now - the prelude is too slow. And I have my usual number of errors. The video and audio don't seem quite in sync - I didn't have a good camera back then. And I prefer it on the piano. But you can see and hear the harpsichord:

Bach c minor p&f

Sam
Posted By: Talão Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/20/21 01:21 AM
Originally Posted by Sam S
Originally Posted by Talão
Originally Posted by Sam S
A not so small, 7 foot long, double manual harpsichord. I have played it in the recitals before, but it's been awhile. Maybe soon...

Sam

Ooooh! If you recall the recital number, I'd love to go back and listen to that. Otherwise, I'll wait until your next performance on it. 7 feet! Wow, the angle/perspective really played a trick on my perception. It's pretty big then.

Way back in Recital #48. Looking at it now - the prelude is too slow. And I have my usual number of errors. The video and audio don't seem quite in sync - I didn't have a good camera back then. And I prefer it on the piano. But you can see and hear the harpsichord:

Bach c minor p&f

Sam

Awesome! Thanks! Will listen to it tonight!
Posted By: MarieJ Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/20/21 02:55 AM
I’m a little late coming to the party, but now, finally, I'm able to sit down and enjoy the feast. First course: a random dip into the original compositions - and what a selection of treats!

43. CarlosCC - One wave one sea
Welcome back at last, Carlos, we’ve missed you! And what a gentle, serene contribution. Your oceanic ‘sound picture’ was hypnotic: do I detect a faint hint of Einaudi here? I would love to hear your piano-only version.

21. ranjit - The Madman's Circus
So many exciting possibilities here! It is like a sampler of future works, from the violent all the way to the ethereal. You really gave your fingers - and your piano - quite a workout!

07. Ted Jones - Croaghaun Triptych (Part 1)
Just you, your Weinbach, and your vintage Pioneer tape recorder, playing away for the pure delight of it - what’s not to like?

20. winterflower - The Night is Too Long and So Deep
A lovely meditative original, with a hint of the spiritual. Congratulations!
Posted By: Serge88 Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/20/21 03:10 AM
Again,

11. Ido - Invention 11 (BWV 782)
Well done and I'm learning bach invention 8

12. JJHLH - Prelude in B major Op 27 No 2
I enjoyed your piece. I didn't know this composer.

13. Mateusz 'Mati' Papiernik - Loutky (Puppets), H. 92: No. 3. Columbine
well played.

14. Calavera - Legend of Mana medley
Beautiful piece,

15. rwsavory - Les Barricades Mysterieuses
Good playing.

16. PianogrlNW (Ellen) - Preludes Op 11, Nos 9 & 17
Nice tunes, well played.

17. JB_PW (Jen) - Mermaid's Lullaby
Interesting piece. Well done !

18. AndresVel - Two-Part Inventions, No. 9 in F minor (BWV 780)
Nice playing and you have a good recording setup.

19. Talao - Gnossienne No. 1
Melancholic and beautiful. Well done !

20. winterflower - The Night is Too Long and So Deep
Good improvisation ! I enjoyed it.
Posted By: Ted Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/20/21 03:57 AM
Originally Posted by MarieJ
07. Ted Jones - Croaghaun Triptych (Part 1)
Just you, your Weinbach, and your vintage Pioneer tape recorder, playing away for the pure delight of it - what’s not to like?

Yes, tape recordings do have a certain smoothness about them. Thanks for listening.
Posted By: Ted Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/20/21 04:01 AM
Originally Posted by Talão
07. Ted Jones - Croaghaun Triptych (Part 1)
Interesting that you used a tape recorder! It gave the recording an "old school" kind of sound. I'm always awe of this level of improvisation ability. I'd love to be able to sit at the piano and just let my imagination (and hands) flow wherever they feel like, with on-the-fly adjustments and swings, while still sounding like music :-) I closed my eyes and imagined some cliffs while listening to you. Very enjoyable.

I probably acquired the habit of improvisation because I am not much good at playing pieces as everybody else does, nothing more to it; I keep wanting to change bits here and there. Thanks for your thoughts.
Posted By: Ted Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/20/21 04:04 AM
Originally Posted by lilypad
07. Ted Jones - Croaghaun Triptych (Part 1) I've only listened to your improvisations from the last few quarterly recitals, but this is my favorite so far.

Pleased you like it, thanks for listening.
Posted By: Ted Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/20/21 04:10 AM
Originally Posted by Coati
07. Ted Jones - Croaghaun Triptych (Part 1)
Interesting improvisation -- I'm probably reading to much into it, but I wasn't difficult to imagine picturing coastal cliffs seen through a fog when hearing this, especially during the opening, with cascading phrases of halting, occaisionally dissonant, music. You mentioned you've returned to listening to this for years now. Do you ever transcribe your improvisations and play them again, or do you always improvise new music when playing?

Years ago I used to write compositions from improvised ideas but I found the process too laborious for too little reward. These days I just record hundreds of hours of spontaneous thoughts, although admittedly some ideas do tend to reoccur from time to time. Thanks for your thoughts.
Posted By: MarieJ Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/20/21 04:15 AM
I notice that #41 requested no comments (difficult for me because I have commented on every submission since Recital 38) smile. But I’ll honour this request.

Three of us didn’t want suggestions for improvement. Easy! Given the high standard of submissions in these Recitals I’m not qualified to offer any, anyway. So:

10. KevinM - Minuet No. 1 from French Suite in B minor. No. 3
A lovely delicate touch with this shimmery little Minuet, Kevin - a short, but very sweet performance.

52. P Westberg - Bagatelle Op. 119 No. 1
Congratulations on recapturing the Piano Bug, PW, and welcome to the Recitals with that sparkly Bagatelle. An enjoyable listen!

05. MarieJ - Berlin Song
So far, so good; (just keep polishing).
Posted By: marklings Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/20/21 09:26 AM
Originally Posted by Sam S
Originally Posted by marklings
Sidenote for SAM, I mistyped my nick, its marklings, not marlins. Can you change that, so that in the archives it will fall under my proper nickname ? Thanks if possible.

Check it now...

Sam

Yep, thanks also for that!
Posted By: Flygbladet Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/20/21 11:23 AM
Some more comments:

23. pianist685 (Constantin) - If I could see you again
Lovely played. Found it relaxing – everything in order and perfectly played. Funny though – thought it was about to end three times while listening. And it came back for another round.

32. Pavel.K - Evening Clouds, No.9 from Album de Nina Op. 141 I just love when you dig up forgotten pieces. Who was Nina? What is this about? What are the missing pieces. I would want to listen to this in a more acoustic-sounding piano

44. selfishplayer - Variatio 8 from Goldberg Variations
Bach as when he sounds more like a machine, just keep spitting out notes in an all still wonderful comforting harmony. Thank you for sharing. Its impressive speed in this one, and the counterpoint (playing two separate melodies) in both hand is truly difficult and ofcourse such good practice. A bit uneven at places is the one suggestion I have to improve.

45. bSharp(C)yclist (Dan) - Invention No. 8 In F Major, BWV 779 Good played. I like when you can here peoples almost happily jump between the notes. Bach as it should sound. Some part I can hear a bit of it being uneven. But good tempo throughout.

46. Agrajag - Jesus bleibet meine Freude - BWV 147 What a joy to listen to this one. The steady tempo. The very good way to have the main vocal really be dominant and not lost in the rest of it. Some hickups about 2 minuts in, but that happens to everyone. I really really enjoyed this one. And only one year experience? And already at this level? Amazing! And I mean it. This was really really good
Posted By: psyche23 Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/20/21 12:51 PM
Originally Posted by MarieJ
I notice that #41 requested no comments (difficult for me because I have commented on every submission since Recital 38) smile. But I’ll honour this request.

Hi MarieJ, I selected 'No comments' when submitting my piece (#41) because I knew then - due to very busy work and life demands - that I wouldn't have time even to listen to the recital, let alone make any considered comments on any of the recordings, and didn't feel comfortable actively requesting comments for my own recording when not intending to reciprocate. It's purely a personal decision. Hopefully I will have more time in the future to listen/comment/play.

But please do feel free to leave a comment against my submission. It's certainly appreciated. I'd hate to be in any way responsible for you breaking your commenting streak! All the best.
Posted By: Ido Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/20/21 01:46 PM
Rachtoven (k545)
This is super impressive for 3.5years! Great tone, it is very flowing, and musical. The only thing that really bothered me is the squashing of bar 12 (happened 3 times so I guess it's misreading of the score).
Also note that you start at one tempo and end up with a much faster one.
Having said that - again, this is very very impressive and musical.
Posted By: KevinM Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/20/21 01:48 PM
I am going to struggle comment on everything. I wish I could because it is an excellent recital. So many contributions I have enjoyed a lot.

So, I am just going to comment not quite randomly.

30. sma55 (Shepherd Abrams) - Sentimental Waltz, Op 51 No 6
This is just wonderful, a beautiful piece with perfect sense of feeling to it. Thank you Shepherd.

01. Greta99 - Two Baltic Waltzes -"Tallinn" and "Vilnius" from "Reflections in Waltz"
These were interesting and so well played, and I love the rise in intensity towards the end.

02. QuasiUnaFantasia - 10 pieces for piano, opus 24,7: Andantino
Thanks for the Sibelius Qausi, I enjoyed these. I feel I need to reach a slightly higher level to give Sibelius justice.

03. PikaPianist - Nocturne Op. 3 No.2
I have never heard of Korganov. The music is sublime and so perfectly played.

04. Sam S - Valse de l'adieu
I think you captured the essential sadness of the goodbye perfectly. Such a lovely touch.

05. MarieJ - Berlin Song
So well played. You really created the soundscape these pieces need.

16. PianogrlNW (Ellen) - Preludes Op 11, Nos 9 & 17
These are wonderful, your playing is just right. I think you managed to get those pauses just right.

26. lilypad - The Great Pumpkin Waltz
So much fun. I enjoyed this. Is it inspired by Linus.

27. Ganddalf - Sonata Pathetique, Second movement
29. Flygbladet - Sonata Pathetique Mov. 1
Wow, you both should be pleased with yourselves. To get such excellent recordings of this wonderful piece, that so many of us know so well. I can imagination the intimidation of it.

35. Serge88 - Air on the G string
Well done, I'm definitely going to have to add this to my long list of pieces to learn.
Posted By: KevinM Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/20/21 04:07 PM
During the last week I have listened to the whole recital a few times while I have been working. It is a good playlist, mostly it was just background noise, but there were times I just had to stop and focus on the music.

52. P Westberg - Bagatelle Op. 119 No. 1
I learnt this one earlier this year and know its difficulties. You manage a slightly quicker tempo than I could do with nice articulation, well done. The Bagatelle's really are a smorgasbord of delights to dip into and I hope you make available other recordings from Opus 119.

17. JB_PW (Jen) - Mermaid's Lullaby
Just beautiful. A lovely piece and you totally do it justice. I love it. Thank you for introducing it to me.

18. AndresVel - Two-Part Inventions, No. 9 in F minor (BWV 780)
I continue to be blown away by your progress. Not just your technical achievement but the sensitivity with which you play. This is lovely to listen to and the Inventions can be hard work to capture their musicality. You've done that.

11. Ido - Invention 11 (BWV 782)
Another Invention, another Bach. This is has turned into a mini-bach recital. Well played I enjoyed this.

13. Mateusz 'Mati' Papiernik - Loutky (Puppets), H. 92: No. 3. Columbine
Wow, I loved this. I have never heard of Bohuslav Martinu before, and I really enjoyed this introduction to their compositions. A interesting piece and very well played.

14. Calavera - Legend of Mana medley
I always enjoy your contributions and this was no exception. It was definitely worth the effort and I appreciate it. Like you having limited time, having some taken away from actually practising at the piano is frustrating. I am impressed you were able to arrange this yourself.

25. Purrblast - Invention in C Major (BWV 772)
Another Bach Invention, another played well.

32. Pavel.K - Evening Clouds, No.9 from Album de Nina Op. 141
Another composer unknown to me. I need to get out of my cave and explore the world some more. This was lovely, well articulated, bright and twinkly and I enjoyed it a lot.

Originally Posted by Talão
10. KevinM - Minuet No. 1 from French Suite in B minor. No. 3
There's a very beautiful and pleasant smoothness/softness to your performance that comes across to me. Like a velvety quality to the sound. I love Bach and this was a joy to listen to. Great job!

The velvet quality you hear is very likely the choice of virtual piano and the configuration. I have three different virtual pianos that I really like, all from the same company (VSL), they all sound and behave very differently. Once I found the configuration I like I saved it and just load that for each of the pianos. The virtual piano one used for this piece is the harshest and it took more effort to create the configuration I like. Even with this configuration it is still easy to have it sound harsh or brittle, but played just right I think it has a beautiful slightly felted sound, it is just the most sensitive of the three virtual pianos to use and easiest to make sound horrid.

If I don't get a chance to comment further. Thanks so much Sam for all the work you do.
Posted By: KevinM Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/20/21 04:12 PM
One last one to comment since I enjoyed it so much.

34. sandalholme - 4 Mazurkas Op24
These are lovely. I've learnt just one of Chopin's Mazurkas, I didn't really enjoy the experience, or what I felt was the rhythm and feel of a Mazurka and my final result. Perhaps I was too quick in my judgement. But listening to these you have convinced me I need to give them another chance.
KevinM: very glad you liked it and I'm delighted you may explore the Mazurkas. That's what sharing is all about. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I absolutely agree that the mazurka rhythm is tricky and don't claim to have mastered it - far from it. But for me it's about enjoying playing music that speaks to me, and the Mazurkas do so.
Posted By: Greener Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/20/21 07:30 PM
Thank you, Sam, for setting this up for us. Also, Peter, Sam, Serge, Talão, lilypad and Coati, Thank your for your gracious comments and encouragement. I don't expect the Libertango is the easiest listening, but I didn't want these great pieces to slip away into a long forgotten memory either, as so many other pieces often have once I've recorded them. A medley can breath new life into the pieces I may have otherwise become tired of by now, and that was my main motivation behind it.

I've commented on a couple of youtube videos directly, but have been wanting to get out here and spend some time listening and to appreciate this entire collection of performances. Although I may not comment on them all, they all are appreciated equally. Thank you for making the effort and sharing your performances here.

30. sma55 (Shepherd Abrams) - Sentimental Waltz, Op 51 No 6

You play beautifully. Always like listening to your performances, Shepherd. I expect them to be top notch and they always are.

1. Greta99 - Two Baltic Waltzes -"Tallinn" and "Vilnius" from "Reflections in Waltz"

I love a nice waltz and these are great. Lovely job playing both of them. A clean and very polished sound.

2. QuasiUnaFantasia - pieces for piano, opus 24,7: Andantino

The sensitivity you play this with shines through. If feels very familiar and is so easy to listen to, yet all brand new to me. Great job.

3. PikaPianist - Nocturne Op. 3 No.2

It is this very venue that has broadened my narrow view of some great classical works. Beautiful playing and a great presentation of this Nocturne and composer that is all new to me. Thank you for sharing it.

4. Sam S - Valse de l'adieu

The simplest of tunes are often the most gorgeous of all. You bring that feel to this. Noticeable improvement over the years, Sam. You play with authority and confidence. Excellent.

5. MarieJ - Berlin Song

I can see how this would be a favorite Einaudi work. It feel unique with the full rich RH chords. Very enjoyable listening to this and nicely played.


6. wouter79 - Novelette, No17


A very lively and interesting listen. Also, sounds like quite a handful with lots of contrast. Great choice of piece and yes, I quite enjoyed that.

7. Ted Jones - Croaghaun Triptych (Part 1)

Free improvisation is beyond my comprehension I'm afraid, but there are clearly some lovely elements within and a skilled performance. It is always great to hear different performance perspectives. Well done.

Well, it's a start. I hope to be back to comment more. Meanwhile, still enjoying the listening and more to do.
Posted By: Flygbladet Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/20/21 07:45 PM
Thanks for all the comments. I will try to fill in some more for myself on others.
I spent alot alot alot of time on the pathetique. So therefore a bit more sensitive and "beating myself up"
About the octaves - I had a frustrating hard time to get them to work. Until I told my brain to start focus only on the base note.
Actually the hand is more ... fitted to do the top note in both the left and right hand so with the reserve thinking I was able to get some more speed
Posted By: Ted Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/21/21 01:46 AM
Originally Posted by Sam S
07. Ted Jones - Croaghaun Triptych (Part 1) This is a different style for you Ted - I like it! More mellow (but not too much). Lots of jazz chords. Very enjoyable to listen to.

It's probably different because I have tended to post the last few minutes of improvisations here and the endings frequently involve energy and finger work rather than chordal stuff. Thanks for that interesting observation.
Posted By: Talão Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/21/21 02:35 AM
Thank you very much Coati and Serge88 for taking the time to listen to my submission and providing feedback and encouragement!

Coati: "a calm abiding tinged with a weird sort of otherworldly melancholy." What a way to put it! I do think this is what Satie intended, and if my playing managed to do it some justice, then I'm super happy. Thanks again!

I'll try to do another batch of listening and commenting over the next couple of days.
Posted By: MarieJ Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/21/21 03:30 AM
Originally Posted by psyche23
Hi MarieJ, I selected 'No comments' when submitting my piece (#41) because I knew then - due to very busy work and life demands - that I wouldn't have time even to listen to the recital, let alone make any considered comments on any of the recordings, and didn't feel comfortable actively requesting comments for my own recording when not intending to reciprocate. It's purely a personal decision. Hopefully I will have more time in the future to listen/comment/play.

But please do feel free to leave a comment against my submission. It's certainly appreciated. I'd hate to be in any way responsible for you breaking your commenting streak! All the best.


So my ‘record’ stands - thanks Edwin: smile

41 psyche23(Edwin) - Mignon
How satisfying, first to find a piece that you can comfortably sight read, and then to discover it’s such a gem. THAT was a well-spent 30 minutes!

Some more Bach - lots in this Recital:

11. Ido - Invention 11 (BWV 782)
I well remember my first time alone with a grand piano. Next thing I knew, we were moving to a bigger house, so be warned! You clearly enjoyed the experience, and I enjoyed the result.


18. AndresVel - Two-Part Inventions, No. 9 in F minor (BWV 780)
A sensitive performance; you’ve achieved such a lot in the past 17 months. A good one to add to your repertoire.

25. Purrblast - Invention in C Major (BWV 772)
I didn’t notice the sweatpants or your daughter’s assault on your t-shirt; I was too engrossed in enjoying your sparkly performance.
Posted By: MarieJ Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/21/21 06:36 AM
More Bach:

31. thepianoplayer416 - Christmas Oratorio #2 - Sinfonia in G (BWV248)
Creating your own arrangement - that was quite an achievement! Congratulations!

35. Serge88 - Air on the G string
A well-known piece and a pleasant arrangement. You brought out its light and shade; I really enjoyed your performance.

39. cygnusdei - Fantasia in C minor, BWV 906
That was quite a workout. It demonstrates just how close you have come to the ‘steel’ and ‘clockwork’ goals that you have set yourself. Bravo!

42. Marklings - Well Tempered Clavier / Prelude and Fugue 6 in D minor
A lovely crisp rendition, not a butcher’s cleaver anywhere in sight. smile Nice!
Posted By: Calavera Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/21/21 08:50 AM
Though I have nothing to contribute in that particular area, I love the Bach extravaganza, guys!

Here's my first batch of comments.

01. Greta99 - Two Baltic Waltzes -"Tallinn" and "Vilnius" from "Reflections in Waltz"
That sounds very clean to me. My favourite part is the change around 3:15. Nice playing.

02. QuasiUnaFantasia - 10 pieces for piano, opus 24,7: Andantino
I think you did a good job conveying the emotion from the piece and I especially liked the build-up towards the end.

03. PikaPianist - Nocturne Op. 3 No.2
It's funny you should mention the joy of discovery, as this is what the first part of the piece evokes to me. I'm also very partial to those delightful high notes. I really enjoyed this.

04. Sam S - Valse de l'adieu
Congratulations on your 50th quarterly submission! Really impressive.

This is an interesting waltz, and I think you played it evenly and conveyed a sad (perhaps wistful or regretful) mood.

05. MarieJ - Berlin Song
I tend to find Einaudi's music a tad too repetitive for my taste, but surprisingly, it was the repetitive parts of this piece (more specifically the ones at 1:40 and 3:30) that resonated most with me. Kudos for finding some emotion in a piece that might otherwise sound boring.

06. wouter79 - Novelette, No17
Fun and interesting piece! I liked your controlled and graceful performance.

07. Ted Jones - Croaghaun Triptych (Part 1)
This evoked some kind of insouciance and wholesome curiosity to me. I can see/hear some connection with rocks and cliffs. I have no idea if this is what you want to hear, but I'd say this performance is more accessible than many of the bizarro musings you've submitted in other recitals. Whatever the case, I certainly enjoyed this cliff-shaped performance, and I agree that the old tape recorder sound gives it a rather charming quality.

08. Greener / Jeff - Piazzolla Tango, Medley
An enjoyably energetic tango performance! That Exorcist intro was surprising but amusing.

09. peterws - Mozart's 23rd k488 Intro
That opening is indeed quite wonderful. I enjoyed the boisterous momentum of this performance!

10. KevinM - Minuet No. 1 from French Suite in B minor. No. 3
Nice Bach performance. I enjoyed both the relentless opening and the slower part that starts around 0:40. There's so much joy to be found in Bach's works and you do a good job of showcasing it.
Posted By: Calavera Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/21/21 08:53 AM
And thanks to everyone who listened and commented on my submission. laugh

Originally Posted by Sam S
14. Calavera - Legend of Mana medley The result of all that hard work was worth it, I hope? Sounds great! And you learned a lot in the process I bet.
Thanks Sam! I do feel like I learned something, but I don't think I'm going to do this again anytime soon.

Originally Posted by tyschoco
14. Calavera - Legend of Mana medley

A very enjoyable listen! Good to hear some modern/game soundtrack pieces around here. I thoroughly enjoyed it and there really is nothing much to critique. Its nice and stable, you have the poly -rhythms well sorted out and your pedaling is very clean and you make the most of the instrument you have. Good work!
Thank you for your kind words, tyschoco! The rhythm is actually uneven in some parts, but I'm glad to hear that you found the pedalling clean, as I'm sometimes guilty of over-pedalling.

Originally Posted by Coati
14. Calavera - Legend of Mana medley
I really enjoyed playing Secret of Mana when I was younger, and the music has stuck with me, though somehow I never ended up playing any of the other games in the series. I think I can hear the influence of some of the themes from that game still present here. Excellent job on the arrangement. Arranging seems like difficult work, and you've come up with something great here. It is performed beautifully as well.
Well looky here, someone who's familiar with the Mana franchise. Thanks for your comment, Coati! While Secret of Mana's soundtrack was composed by someone else (Kikuta), Shimomura may have drawn inspiration from his work. I can't be sure because I'm only familiar with Secret of Mana's main theme music, which is great. You should definitely give the orchestral version from the 'Symphonic Fantasies' concert a listen, if you haven't yet.

Originally Posted by KevinM
14. Calavera - Legend of Mana medley
I always enjoy your contributions and this was no exception. It was definitely worth the effort and I appreciate it. Like you having limited time, having some taken away from actually practising at the piano is frustrating. I am impressed you were able to arrange this yourself.
Haha, 'arranging' might be stretching it. I only did some mixing and matching from existing arrangements, as well as some transcribing and customization work. Thanks for commenting, Kevin. It's nice to hear that the end result was worth it. I really want to make the most of what little quality time I have with the piano.
Posted By: Flygbladet Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/21/21 12:49 PM
Some more:

10. KevinM - Minuet No. 1 from French Suite in B minor. No. 3
Great work Kevin. I love how you are very articulate with the phrasing, getting the staccato and legato clearly.

12. JJHLH - Prelude in B major Op 27 No 2
Scriabin was a new composer for me that I hadn’t heard of before pianoforum. I do enjoy your wonderful version of it. It truly sounds imaginative, like in some sort of background music to a film noir. Very expressively played. And truly impressive with only 3 years experience.

16. PianogrlNW (Ellen) - Preludes Op 11, Nos 9 & 17 Another Scriabin. And as always Ellen, you play it perfectly. Or your entries are really a delight to listen to.
Scriabins music sound like some sort of easy listening, not really romantic but neither really impressionism. I truly see this kind of music as background music to silent movie era.

19. Talao - Gnossienne No. 1 The Gnossiennes are harder than you think, the score seems easy enough and straight forward when only looking at the scores. Satie also had some odd way of describing how you should play it. “Lost” “as an afterthought” – and stuff like that.
You played it perfectly, but have you thought about his remarks? Can they be incorporated in some way?

20. winterflower - The Night is Too Long and So Deep
Lovely , and very melodic for an improvisation. Especially the first 1.30 minuts, as you said. Maybe worthy for a score of its own. Where as you come to the second part that slowly more and more feels like getting more and more lost. An escapism, a story.. Wonderful.
Posted By: AndresVel Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/21/21 04:08 PM
Thank you very much Coati, Serge88, KevinM, and MarieJ for your comments on my piece. I am very happy you enjoyed listening to it as much as I enjoyed learning it smile

Here some more comments from my side:

04. Sam S - Valse de l'adieu This was a lovely piece Sam, very atmospheric somehow, also a new one to me. You played it beautifully and added nice colors to every phrase. The recording quality is also outstanding. What an accomplishment that this is your 50th recital!! I agree with you, I hope they go on forever an ever. Thank you for making all this possible. I also noticed you have a really cool piano chair! I have never seen one of those but seems very handy for large practice sessions.

05. MarieJ - Berlin Song Lovely piece MarieJ and lovely played. It did well in relaxing me a bit and made me forget on some work duties that expect me this coming week :P A perfect piece for a Sunday afternoon listening session. Thank you very much for sharing some Einaudi with us.

06. wouter79 - Novelette, No17 This seems a very fun piece to play but it also sounds very challenging. Specially the arpeggiated figure in the right hand seems a hard one to get right, to keep it very nice legato but also piano. I liked how you take care of the score and follow the dynamics and articulation as written. You also put a lot of passion to the forte sections and made a very nice contrast to the piano part in the second half. As you mentioned, some sections still need some polishing but I think you are very well on track in case you are planning to keep working on this piece.

14. Calavera - Legend of Mana medley This piece sounded very grand (I do not now which other word to use). I am not surprised it has been orchestrated because it sounded very much like it. I could imagine different instruments taking turns and talking to each other through the themes. I have always been a fan of your submissions and your playing and this was no exception. They are always very polished and you showed a lot of passion through your playing. I cannot even imagine how much work it was to reconstruct the arrangement to your liking but I am sure you learned a lot from it. Awesome stuff smile

15. rwsavory - Les Barricades Mysterieuses Yeah some Couperin! I love his works and this one is no exception. It seems like a really cool challenge to take on. I think you are doing very well with this piece and I am sure the work over the past year has made you feel more confident when playing it. As a suggestion, I would encourage to keep an eye on the rhythm at the end of the main melody when the trill comes. I had the impression you tend to rush the end of the phrase, perhaps because of the trill. I would also try to play the ornaments more softly in certain passages, so they do not stick out too much. Adding a bit more of dynamic variation throughout the piece could also help you to polish it more. Well done smile

16. PianogrlNW (Ellen) - Preludes Op 11, Nos 9 & 17 I am blown away by your playing Ellen! and not only in this recital. What a tasteful performance of these two preludes. I am a big Scriabin fan so listening such an amazing rendition of these two pieces puts me immediately in a good mood smile I admire your sense of tempo and tension. You know exactly when to release tension to make a phrase memorable but also to ensure the music keeps going. Your care to the score is also outstanding. I noticed how you added the small crescendos to your left hand accompaniment in No. 9, which made it very enjoyable. The end was gorgeous. Amazing, I am glad Scriabin grew on you smile

24. vte - Notturno Op 28 No 4 This seems like a very lovely piece from yet another composer I had never heard before. I think you played it beautifully with a lot of tenderness and nuance, which I think served very well the character of the piece. My only advice would be trying to record the sound of your Digital piano directly to the computer. I think it would improve the quality of your recording and will allow you identify bits that get lost because of the amps, specially in the bass. Great job smile

25. Purrblast - Invention in C Major (BWV 772) Great job with this invention! I think you did very good at playing with both voices and letting them talk to each other throughout the piece. I noticed towards the end you were delaying a bit the end of some phrases, which seemed to fit the mood of the piece. The end was a bit too forte for my taste, although I agree with making a big finale. Very nice playing smile

26. lilypad - The Great Pumpkin Waltz What a fun piece to add some variation to this recital. This was very nicely played and a fun listen. It felt like the kind of piece you would like to listen to on a cosy evening at home. Lovely.

34. sandalholme - 4 Mazurkas Op24 This was delightful sandalhome. What a beautiful submission. Very clean and expressive playing, with great exploration in terms of dynamics. This set of Mazurkas is probably my favorite one (followed closely by Op 17 and 33), and for my favorite two (no. 2 and no. 4) I think you did a splendid job. No. 4 was so full of ideas and nuances, you should be very proud of these recordings. Thank for being very inspirational for beginners like me smile Looking forward to more Mazurkas from you in the future, please keep us posted.

35. Serge88 - Air on the G string Great job with one of the classics! I think it has been years since I last listened to this piece played on a piano. The arrangement is gorgeous and your playing is very good. You added an emphasis to the melody when needed and the piece never felt stagnant, which I know can happen with this one. Very good job. I loved that your tiger is wearing a mask haha :P

36. tyschoco - Sonatina in F Major, Op 20 No 3 This was very impressive tyschocho! You should not sell yourself short in my opinion. It never sounded like you were losing control of the piece or like some parts were causing trouble for you. I loved the contrast in your playing across movements. Your articulation was on point, and I enjoyed a lot how you brought out some motifs on the left hand as well. In the first movement on the piano section you left the left hand sing and that was very good executed. The only suggestion I could think of while listening with the score concerns the third movement. After all the long right hand 16 note passages when the left hand rests, I had the impression that the transition to the next theme/motive when the left hand comes again could be played somehow smoother, like sort of preparing/indicating the arrival of the left hand. In overall, this was exquisite to listen to smile

44. selfishplayer - Variatio 8 from Goldberg Variations Cheers for taking on such a colossus work. I do not know if you are planning to learn it entirely. In any case, I think here you show you have very interesting ideas and have the notes under your fingers. I would just recommend to slower it down a bit and try to improve the clarity in the voices and that the rhythm in both hands remain consistent. Keep up the hard work :))

45. bSharp(C)yclist (Dan) - Invention No. 8 In F Major, BWV 779 Great job with this one bSharp. I a sure you are seeing the piece with a different perspective now that your are revisiting it. I loved the playfulness of your playing and the energy that you put to the piece. I think the tempo is the right one to target an would not try to increase it. I can only suggest you to try to keep the tempo steady all the time. Towards the end you rushed a bit and around bars 17 you slowed down a bit. I would isolate those measures and work on them separately. I also have the impression that on bar 21 you are leaving out the last two 1/16 notes, which you do not do in the coming two bars when the motif is repeated. Very nice addition overall bSharp :))

46. Agrajag - Jesus bleibet meine Freude - BWV 147 First of all, welcome to the ABF recitals!! This is insane progress for less than a year of learning piano! I am amazed. This is a very nice arrangement and your playing was superb. Playing something this long and at the tempo you are doing it, recording it, and paying so much attention to dynamics and voicing is very very impressive for the amount of time you have been learning the instrument. Keep up the hard work! Would love to see a submission of you in the coming recitals.
Posted By: cygnusdei Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/21/21 04:25 PM
I never thought Bach would be so well represented in the recital - perhaps great minds do think alike? 😄 (Just as well, in the Beginners Pieces Themed Recital I was so sure someone would play the Minuet in G, but no one did. It's unpredictable!)
At any rate, I want to say great job to all - I listened to the recital and I think everyone did just awesome! Please excuse my lack of courage to give specific comments, but your love for music and dedication to music making is an inspiration in more ways than one. Apart from getting acquainted to new music, it's also interesting to hear how different pianos sound, as captured by different recording methods. It's nice to know I'm not the only who makes nail clicking noises 😅. Anyway, I'm glad to be able to participate in the recital. It's great to have this opportunity to learn from and be inspired by one another.
Posted By: peterws Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/21/21 07:39 PM
29 Flygbladet

Starts so slow and then . . .it all bursts into life. I played this many years ago but nowhere near as fluently as yourself. Great dynamics; surprisingly so, but if I may . . .in some places the LH could be a little more prominent, as in the 7 min mark, and earlier with the same phrase (just my opinion). You gave it your all, on a humble instrument. Spectacular! Well done you! Applause!

30 sma55

A really good sounding piece here one o' my favourite composers. I wondered when it was gonna get hard. i didn't have to wait for too long. I enjoyed this.

31 Thepianoplayer416

It's strange that so much good music is unavailable or had to get, for piano. My Mozart offering was the same; I too transcribed mine out from the orchestra and other bits.
It's good for the soul, you understand!
I enjoyed doing mine, aand certainly enjoyed listening to yours. Well Done!
Posted By: Ido Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/21/21 08:04 PM
Superb performances follow...

02. QuasiUnaFantasia - 10 pieces for piano, opus 24,7: Andantino
So beautiful! Wow... I listened to it several times. It gave me goosebumps.

04. Sam S - Valse de l'adieu
Listened several times, beautiful performance. Very sweet and nostalgic sounding.

05. MarieJ - Berlin Song
I bet whoever shares the space with you enjoys your music. This performance has an ethereal feeling to it. Beautifully done, I've listened to it several times.

16. PianogrlNW (Ellen) - Preludes Op 11, Nos 9 & 17
Beautiful harmonies in these pieces. The performance is so full of expression and emotion. This goes directly into my heart (and I never use these words smile ). Thank you Ellen! This is fantastic.

17. JB_PW (Jen) - Mermaid's Lullaby
A unique piece. Very musical playing, the way you manipulate time and dynamics is done in a very artistic way. Wow! You are an amazing pianist.
Posted By: peterws Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/21/21 08:43 PM
32 PavelK

Pleasant on the ears! An unconlicated silpe tune which must have been enjoyable to play; it etainly was to listen to.

33 Jamiecw

There seems to be many ways of playing this tune; whether the music makes things clear. You chose the easy listening relaxed style, which probably gives way to something more dynamic further into things.
Splendidnjob. seemed faultlessly played to me.

34 Sandleholme

First of all, that Bluthner sound alike seems a bit special, expensive quality. Some day i might achieve similar. But I doubt if i could ever match your style and expertise! Each to their own; don't really care for much Chopin, but I really like the second. I done that along time ago . . . .it sparkles. Great job!

35 Serge

Lovely! And you give it a firm yet gentle formal approach which I find soothing and so pleasant! Yet there seems a few wrong'uns amongst that lovely brew . . Very well executed!.
Splendid piano! Please tell us Pinaoteq aficinados what this is, and how you achieve that lovely sound.

You lot are getting too darned good . . . .See ya soon. Drinkie time! Bottoms up! (is it ok to say that still haha)
Posted By: JB_PW Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/21/21 09:11 PM
I listened to all of the pieces over the course of this past week and enjoyed every one. I hope to find time next week to make some comments.

Just wanted to pop in and say that it's a wonderful recital, and I very much appreciate the comments on my piece so far. Some were really generous and unexpected.
Posted By: RudolfRSK Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/21/21 09:35 PM
Originally Posted by JB_PW
I listened to all of the pieces over the course of this past week and enjoyed every one. I hope to find time next week to make some comments.

Just wanted to pop in and say that it's a wonderful recital, and I very much appreciate the comments on my piece so far. Some were really generous and unexpected.
Same situation here. I knew it was going to be a long 10 straight days of work after the recital, so it doesn't come as a surprise that I haven't had the time to get my stuff organized. But as badly as I wanted to submit something to this recital, just as badly do I want to get comments to the people who submitted these wonderful pieces, and thank the people who very kindly made comments.
Posted By: MarieJ Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/21/21 10:51 PM
Back with the remaining Bach entries:

44. selfishplayer - Variatio 8 from Goldberg Variations
Now THAT is a stage for any music student to celebrate - when you discover that your skills have outgrown your instrument. You handled this intricate and complex piece confidently: it could make a useful test piece as you audition contenders for your new piano. smile

45. bSharp(C)yclist (Dan) - Invention No. 8 In F Major, BWV 779
I love revisiting ‘old’ pieces - and realising that I’m in better control than I was, first time around. A bright, enjoyable little piece - you deserve to feel good about your performance!

46. Agrajag - Jesus bleibet meine Freude - BWV 147
Welcome to the Recitals, Agrajag. An interesting arrangement of one of my favourite Bach compositions. Sensitively played - and impressive after only a few months at the piano!

And J C Bach to round off the set:

50. Coati - The Setting Sun
I’m ‘nowhere close to the standard of most performances in these recitals’ either, but I haven’t let that deter me: I just try for a ‘personal best’. I’m so glad you decided to submit this spirited little composition - very well done!
Posted By: Talão Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/21/21 11:44 PM
Originally Posted by Flygbladet
19. Talao - Gnossienne No. 1 The Gnossiennes are harder than you think, the score seems easy enough and straight forward when only looking at the scores. Satie also had some odd way of describing how you should play it. “Lost” “as an afterthought” – and stuff like that.
You played it perfectly, but have you thought about his remarks? Can they be incorporated in some way?

Thank you, Flygbladet!! I was unaware of the existence of these descriptions by Satie himself. Thank you for pointing that out. I'll do some research into this and see if there's more that he said about his own pieces. The words "lost" and "afterthought" are not straightforward to me in terms of playing interpretation, but it's a fun exercise to think about how to turn them into a concrete type of touch on the piano.
Posted By: Serge88 Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/22/21 12:41 AM
Again,

21. ranjit - The Madman's Circus
21 minutes of improvisation ! Impressive, I enjoyed it but I must confess I skipped the middle of the piece.

22. stevedoz - Dawn
Welcome to the recital. Romantic and beautiful.

23. pianist685 (Constantin) - If I could see you again
Good playing and and beautiful.

24. vte - Notturno Op 28 No 4
Nice performance.

25. Purrblast - Invention in C Major (BWV 772)
Well done.

26. lilypad - The Great Pumpkin Waltz
Well played.

27. Ganddalf - Sonata Pathetique, Second movement
A great joy to listen to this Sonata.

28. Saan Saturday - The Cat and the Mouse
Interesting piece, Well done !

29. Flygbladet - Sonata Pathetique Mov. 1
Well played !

30. sma55 (Shepherd Abrams) - Sentimental Waltz, Op 51 No 6
Nice playing.
Posted By: Ted Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/22/21 12:57 AM
Originally Posted by Calavera
07. Ted Jones - Croaghaun Triptych (Part 1)
This evoked some kind of insouciance and wholesome curiosity to me. I can see/hear some connection with rocks and cliffs. I have no idea if this is what you want to hear, but I'd say this performance is more accessible than many of the bizarro musings you've submitted in other recitals. Whatever the case, I certainly enjoyed this cliff-shaped performance, and I agree that the old tape recorder sound gives it a rather charming quality.

Pleasing response, my music is nothing if not insouciant and bizarre. The cliffs are just incidental really, I am not very good at direct musical impressionism. Probably accessible because it is sixteen years old, before I went funny, you know, like Louis Wain and his cat paintings. Thanks for listening.
Posted By: lilypad Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/22/21 01:07 AM
Thank you to KevinM and AndresVel for your kind remarks on The Great Pumpkin Waltz. In answer to your question, Kevin, I believe Vince Guaraldi wrote it for a Peanuts Thanksgiving TV special and it likely has something to do with Linus' Great Pumpkin.

Continuing with more comments -

40. OE1FEU (Peter) - Intermezzo b-flat minor Op. 117 No. 2 -Very beautiful. Looking forward to hearing more of your Op. 117 project.

42. Marlings - Well Tempered Clavier / Prelude and Fugue 6 in D minor - I can just say wow! Relentless is right. Very impressive.

43. CarlosCC - One wave one sea - Very soothing composition. I can imagine the rolling waves of the ocean listening to it.

44. selfishplayer - Variatio 8 from Goldberg Variations - Impressive job on a piece with such a fast tempo.

45. bSharp(C)yclist (Dan) - Invention No. 8 In F Major, BWV 779 - Very lively Bach performance. Easy to understand why it's a grade 7.

46. Agrajag - Jesus bleibet meine Freude - BWV 147 - Bach at his most beautiful in my opinion. Great job on bringing out the voices.

47. facdo - Nocturne in E flat Major, Op.9 No.2 - Easy to understand the popularity of this piece. I don't hear it enough. You played it well.

48. Rachtoven - Piano Sonata in C Major K.545 1st Movement - The sonata sounded lovely. I'm glad you submitted it for the recital.

49. Pathbreaker - Nocturne No. 3 - Op. 33 - I'm glad you decided to finish Nocturne No. 3 and share it for the recital. It is lovely.

50. Coati - The Setting Sun - Your piece sounded very nice. The beginner piece recital was an inspiration that there is beautiful music written for all levels and worthy of being shared.

51. RudolfRSK - Sonetto 47 del Petrarca - Liszt's music is truly beautiful. When I was a child, my dad took me and my sisters to see 'Song Without End' about Liszt's life. My sisters and I found the adult content boring and depressing, but my dad was probably embarrassed that he hadn't known about it before hand and had taken his kids to see it.

52. P Westberg - Bagatelle Op. 119 No. 1 - A little gem indeed! Thank you for sharing it.

53. Moo smile - Rondo in D K485 - Well done! I'm impressed by anyone who can play a piece well while reading at the same time. The page turns were even accomplished without breaks in the music. I try to do that, but end up having to memorize in order play well.

Time to go practice!
Posted By: MarieJ Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/22/21 01:43 AM
19. Talao - Gnossienne No. 1
Congratulations on submitting your second Satie composition. I know from experience with the Gymnopedies and the Gnossiennes that the ‘notes’ are easy to play but the ‘music’ is not: you are largely left to your own interpretative devices (despite/because of his inscrutable directions). I thoroughly enjoyed this!

Two more from Beethoven:

27. Ganddalf - Sonata Pathetique, Second movement
Gandalf, you shouldn’t have been apprehensive. This is one of my all-time favourite classical compositions, and to my ears you really did it justice. I loved it!

29. Flygbladet - Sonata Pathetique Mov. 1
Wow - what a treat. You have so much to show for your ‘ton of work’. A scintillating and dramatic performance!


30. sma55 (Shepherd Abrams) - Sentimental Waltz, Op 51 No 6
I had no preconceived expectations, as I’ve never heard this particular Tchaikovsky composition. It was delightful. A single take - and what a magic result!
AndresVel, peterws: many thanks for your comments. Glad you enjoyed them. The Op24 set is one of my favourites, too, and I wish my technique could be stretched to the Op59 set. It's been a work in progress for quite some time ....... Op24 No4 was itself a stretch, so it means a lot to me that it came over OK. Peter,I am aware of your reservations about Chopin's melancholy and very glad these passed muster. It is one of the more cheerful sets. Re the Bluethner sound, PM me if you would like to try out the fxps - one for playing, suitable for the small room I use and one with more reverb, as heard, for listening. Trouble is, the listening fxp uses a Samplicity convolution reverb, so you may not have access to that. (Used to be free, now other people I have recommended it to have found it difficult to find.
Posted By: Rachtoven Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/23/21 12:08 AM
Another amazing recital. I haven't listened to everything yet but am impressed with the high quality I've heard. Here are some initial comments:

26. lilypad - The Great Pumpkin Waltz

You played this perfectly. A great (unknown to me) piece.

27. Ganddalf - Sonata Pathetique, Second movement

I’m really impressed. You played this with such sensitivity—a beautiful performance.

28. Saan Saturday - The Cat and the Mouse

Your performance is absolutely fantastic. This is more “modern” than what I usually listen to, but I enjoyed this because you played so convincingly and brought out the musical logic.

29. Flygbladet - Sonata Pathetique Mov. 1

You really set yourself a challenge with this one. An amazing job! Not just hitting the notes but playing with just the right dynamics and timing. One thought: have you considered playing with a bit less pedal on the rumbly bass notes starting at 4:35? In my opinion, they should sound a bit more rumbly.

30. sma55 (Shepherd Abrams) - Sentimental Waltz, Op 51 No 6

A lovely piece, and you played this just about perfectly, with feeling and appropriate dynamic/tempo choices. The piano also sounds wonderful.

34. sandalholme - 4 Mazurkas Op24

A recital within a recital! All I can say is that you played immaculately, with sensitivity and perfectly judged rubato

35. Serge88 - Air on the G string

I love this piece and really enjoyed your performance of it.

36. tyschoco - Sonatina in F Major, Op 20 No 3

Fantastic playing of this sonata, especially the outer movements. There’s a lot to this piece; more than I would have expected from a sonatina by an “off-brand” composer.

37. lyricmudra - Venetian Boat Song No. 2 (Song Without Words Op. 30, No. 6)

Beautiful performance of this well known piece. I greatly enjoyed it.

38. CasualPianist123 - Sonata Op. 40 No. 2, 1st Movt

I had a high opinion of Clementi already, and your performance certain does justice to this excellent composition. I’m glad you played in a Beethovenian spirit. Excellent playing!

39. cygnusdei - Fantasia in C minor, BWV 906

Excellent playing of a very difficult sounding piece.

49. Pathbreaker - Nocturne No. 3 - Op. 33

A beautiful piece, sensitively played. Nice use of dynamic contrasts. Thanks for submitting this.

51. RudolfRSK - Sonetto 47 del Petrarca

Wow! Very well done with a very challenging piece.

52. P Westberg - Bagatelle Op. 119 No. 1

Nicely played! I enjoyed it.

53. Moo smile - Rondo in D K485
This is a challenging piece. Nicely played!
Posted By: Rachtoven Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/23/21 12:32 AM
Thanks to QuasiUnaFantasia, Sam S, Ido, and lilypad for your comments. Thank you Sam S and Ido for pointing out that I squashed the 12th measure (and the other measures where these chords appear). I just never noticed it! I'm now trying to play those measures as Mozart wrote them.
Posted By: tyschoco Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/23/21 01:01 AM
I have to say i am really enjoying everything i am listening so far!

15. rwsavory - Les Barricades Mysterieuses
Ah some Couperin, glad to hearing something from the baroque period that isn't Bach haha.

You have this piece very well learnt! You play it in the mood and you have the 4 part syncopated coordination relatively mapped out well. For a piece that is that rather challenging, you should be rather proud of what you achieved. My only couple of nitpicks is that, while i like the breathing points and 'arrivals' you are doing at many places in the music, i just feel that the pulse fluctuates a little bit much, making it sound slightly more like a romantic era piece instead of baroque. Other than that, maybe a slightly more moving tempo for whenever you choose to revisit this piece. Great work!

16. PianogrlNW (Ellen) - Preludes Op 11, Nos 9 & 17

No. 17: Very very well executed. You keep the dynamic level and tone very appropriate for this and capture the mood of the piece well. Your rubato is done rather naturally without negotiating with the pulse. Deviating from my tendency to critique people on playing too much with the pulse, perhaps take more time for the ending, and if you aren't already doing so, try using the Una Corda pedal on the grand you are playing at the end, you may get a very nice colour doing so!

No. 9: Very well conceived and stable! Your pedaling is very clean throughout and you are making rather good use of rubato. Once again your dynamic control is rather good too. Maybe certain melodic contours could have an inbuilt drive and direction to it and some attention drawn to interesting harmonies in this piece.
Great work!

17. JB_PW (Jen) - Mermaid's Lullaby

A very touching piece and an excellent rendition. Good sense of breathing and rubato and a well conceived touch. You bring out the character of this piece very well. I just wanted to know if you use the Una corda pedal? Just clarifying as i understand that our uprights may not produce a major change in the tone colour using that pedal. A pleasurable listen!

18. AndresVel - Two-Part Inventions, No. 9 in F minor (BWV 780)

I just completed this invention 3 weeks ago, so its gonna be interesting to hear your rendition of it smile

I see you are taking the slower tempo some performers took, you are using it to great effect. Furthermore, i love that you are following the slur and articulation markings on the (presumably Urtext) score. I can definitely see the effort to bring out the left hand over the right hand where it is appropriate, so i am starting to hear the conservation and theme transfer. So the work you have been putting in with your teacher has been paying off!

My hint here as someone who also played this, if you find the ornaments are causing you trouble, you can afford to either play them slower, or just cut out the ornaments entirely. The ornaments are decorations, so you need only add them in as long as you maintain the beauty of the piece.

But your contrapuntal playing has seen a marked improvement since the last submission, keep up the good work!

19. Talao - Gnossienne No. 1

Good Job! Generally everything is there, your pedaling is rather clean and it doesn't sound too noisy on the video to me. I like your attempt to change the dynamics and little rubato. Other than the small slip ups in the upward scales, everything is rather polished. Perhaps a little more variation in phrasing and dynamics to keep the listener interested considering how much the themes repeats. But overall it was a enjoyable listen.

22. stevedoz - Dawn

First impressions, really good job with the poly-rhythms! Overall you are playing everything rather clean, you provide natural rubato where appropriate and you voiced out the left hand in the second section rather well. Your control over the dynamics in relation to the texture is rather well done and you bring the character of this piece out very well.

I only really have two comments, the first of which is when the left hand takes over the melody, it could have a little more phrasing and direction. The second, when we get to the 'slightly slower' part, as this contains the height of the emotions in the piece, bring more attention to the harmonic changes especially when and where there are accidentals involved. I will pass on critique related to colour changes and voicing given the inherent limitations of the digital instrument you are playing on.

I have to say, for a first submission this is really impressive, you have conceived the piece rather well and while you may feel its too hard for you, i think you gave a very very respectable product. Please give us more in the next ABF Recital smile

23. pianist685 (Constantin) - If I could see you again

A very nice listen! The piano you are playing on has a beautifully crystal tone and you make very good use of it with your touch. You are very secure in this piece and bring it out well! The balance between the hands is very well managed and your phrasing is also rather well done. My only critique is that you may be using a little too much rubato in certain places causing the pulse to fluctuate quite a bit. I understand you may be using it for expressive effect, but perhaps it could be a little more tamed. Also, consider the use of the Una Corda pedal in certain places (maybe the final section?) to really add some interesting tonal colours to the piece. Great work!

In hindsight, i realize this post has me talking a lot about using the Una Corda lol crazy
Posted By: Coati Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/23/21 02:14 AM
MarieJ and Lilypad, thank you for your kind comments.

I'm continuing to enjoy listening through all of the pieces.

21. ranjit - The Madman's Circus
This sounds like a series of separate ideas, each the kernel of a distinct piece. It settles into the kernel of a piece for a while, testing it out, perhaps getting comfortable or playing it out through a progression of a pattern, before moving onto the next idea, possibly connected with the previous, or contrasting with it, or else wholly new. There's a great variety to these musical ideas, and for coming up with them in succession on the spur of the moment, that is quite impressive. I imagine it must be fun to be able to play this way, bouncing from idea to idea. It seems both a talent and a skill, a difficult one to develop, requiring both good technique and a lot of familiarity with repertoire. As a listener, I find myself thinking I'd like to hear just a handful of these kernels more fully developed, and playing off of each other, rather than moving on between so many so quickly. I think this was at its strongest when one of these kernels developed in a more complex way than a repeated pattern, or when it took an unexpected turn. In any case, well done, and thank you for sharing this.

22. stevedoz - Dawn
I agree, this piece has a great gentle sound to it, building and rising slowly and steadily to a crescendo, and then sort of taking a breath and sighing back into relaxation for the finish. Nicely and expressively played; I wouldn't have guessed this was a bit of a stretch piece for you if you had not said so.

23. pianist685 (Constantin) - If I could see you again
This is a pretty piece, with a very clean, contemporary sound to it, and a wistful mood to match the title. Expertly played.

24. vte - Notturno Op 28 No 4
What a nice nocturne, the music has a great flow to it, and seems to capture that feeling of relaxing into an evening or early night so well. Well done, particularly on the middle section with the fast descending notes. Nice phrasing and dynamics throughout. There's a lot of pedal here; does the score call for the pedal to be kept pressed throughout? Also, as you're on a digital piano, have you tried using it to record to a .wav file on a usb drive directly, rather than using your phone? Well done, and thanks for submitting this piece -- I'm glad to have some other early beginners participating in the recital!

25. Purrblast - Invention in C Major (BWV 772)
Really well done, great use of dynamics for separation of the voices. Your performance is polished, and keeps the baroque intricacy of multiple melody lines ticking along like clockwork.

26. lilypad - The Great Pumpkin Waltz
What a fun and jazzy piece -- Vince Guaraldi's music is a huge part of what made those Peanuts specials such classics. I think you've played it really well, and captured the feeling of the music as written.

29. Flygbladet - Sonata Pathetique Mov. 1
I've skipped ahead here, in order to hear the Sonata Pathetique in order. Wow, what a first movement, this is really amazing. Right from the famous opening, through development, and all the way to a thunderous finish, your dynamics are so well done. You seem to have so much control through the quick and intricate passages. Your time spent and hard work on this definitely show. I think that for you there is a lot to be proud of here, and as for me, this is fantastic to listen to.

27. Ganddalf - Sonata Pathetique, Second movement
This is probably my favorite movement of this beautiful sonata, and as you mention, one that is widely known and loved. Quite a challenge to step up to, but for that same reason, what great music to aspire to learning, and in your case, succeed in performing beautifully. Fantastic expressiveness here, and a great rendition. My only minor quibbles would be that it is perhaps a faster tempo than I'm accustomed to, and maybe the balance is just a bit heavy on the lower notes. Overall this was a joy to listen to. Honestly, between Flygbladet and yourself, I'm a bit stunned to hear such strong renditions of advanced repertoire like this here. You should be very proud of this performance.

28. Saan Saturday - The Cat and the Mouse
The runs up and down the keyboard, the intentional dissonance of the piece, and the start/stop rhythm make this sound like a rather challenging piece to learn. I imagine it could be very useful to learn modern pieces such as this for the variety they provide in style and technique. As someone who has been around cats a lot, and had a cat for many years, I know how they can get sometimes, crashing through the house when pursuing some foe, real or imagined. Great performance of what sounds like a challenging piece, well done.

30. sma55 (Shepherd Abrams) - Sentimental Waltz, Op 51 No 6
This piece is new to me as well. It is just gorgeous, and I'm honestly surprised it is not more widely played an better known. I feel like your expressive liberties taken with tempo, leaning into certain passages, if you will, is masterful, and really brings out the "sentimentality" intended in the composition. Great interpretation, and very well played. I need to seek out some of the recordings you've mentioned, since now I'm curious about this, but this was a wonderful introduction to it.

31. thepianoplayer416 - Christmas Oratorio #2 - Sinfonia in G (BWV248)
Quite impressive, and excellent work transcribing a symphonic piece for the piano. Keeping the feeling of the original, while having so many fewer voices, and obviously, lacking the different tone and timbre of diverse instrumentation, seems like a very challenging task. I rather enjoyed listening to your transcription, and I feel like its symphonic origins are intact, carrying a fullness of sound at the moments where they were in the original. Thank you for sharing your performance of the end result of your transcription work.

32. Pavel.K - Evening Clouds, No.9 from Album de Nina Op. 141
Not a composer I am familiar with. This is a charming piece, and you've played it well. Thanks for your suggestions -- I may seek out some of the composer's pieces suitable for early beginners.

33. jamiecw - Prelude in A Major Op28 No7
Such a beautiful composition, of course, and I really enjoy your gentle, heartfelt interpretation. So much expression packed into a little thumbnail of a prelude. A feeling of yearning, or maybe nostalgia? Very lyrical and bittersweet. Well done, beautifully played.

34. sandalholme - 4 Mazurkas Op24
Your experience definitely shines here -- this is a flawless performance of challenging repertoire. As is the case with masterful playing, you make these sound effortless, like the music is already there, just ready to unfold. I enjoyed these a lot, thank you for sharing them.
Originally Posted by Coati
31. thepianoplayer416 - Christmas Oratorio #2 - Sinfonia in G (BWV248)
Quite impressive, and excellent work transcribing a symphonic piece for the piano. Keeping the feeling of the original, while having so many fewer voices, and obviously, lacking the different tone and timbre of diverse instrumentation, seems like a very challenging task. I rather enjoyed listening to your transcription, and I feel like its symphonic origins are intact, carrying a fullness of sound at the moments where they were in the original. Thank you for sharing your performance of the end result of your transcription work.

The original score did not indicate changes in dynamics. A lot of pieces written in Baroque you find solo sections where only the lead instruments like flutes & violins are heard and tutti sections with everybody playing to get variations in dynamics. Unlike an organ (probably the instrument used in 1734 & 1735), a piano can vary dynamics give soft & loud sections more emphasis as well as adding cres. & decres. in between.

An arrangement can sound Baroque or modern. Here you have stacks of notes that form chords when reading vertically & melodic lines when reading horizontally. It's not always possible to play all the notes within the reach of 2 hands so changing certain notes up / down an octave may be needed. When you start adding notes that were not in the original, you get the piece to sound like "Variation on Theme" than a close reproduction. Solo keyboard pieces can be improvised to some extent such as adding ornaments.
Posted By: Flygbladet Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/23/21 08:55 AM
Originally Posted by Talão
Originally Posted by Flygbladet
19. Talao - Gnossienne No. 1 The Gnossiennes are harder than you think, the score seems easy enough and straight forward when only looking at the scores. Satie also had some odd way of describing how you should play it. “Lost” “as an afterthought” – and stuff like that.
You played it perfectly, but have you thought about his remarks? Can they be incorporated in some way?

Thank you, Flygbladet!! I was unaware of the existence of these descriptions by Satie himself. Thank you for pointing that out. I'll do some research into this and see if there's more that he said about his own pieces. The words "lost" and "afterthought" are not straightforward to me in terms of playing interpretation, but it's a fun exercise to think about how to turn them into a concrete type of touch on the piano.

How sad that the sheet music you used didnt included them.
That's half the fun of playing them - like a silent wink between the pianist and the author. The audiance unaware (and should remaining unaware according to Saties instruction If I remember correctly)
Satie is such a fun character - having bought loads of exactly the same costume. Allways walking around with his umbrella.

It is said that his good friend Debussy once told him that his music lacked form. So he wrote "three pieces in the shape of a pear." That composition has seven pieces not three.
His music is quite diversified and you can find some saloon-pieces too. But it's this quirky bits we love and remember.

So shame on the publicer not including those quirky description in the score smile
Originally Posted by Flygbladet
So shame on the publicer not including those quirky description in the score smile

You can see the original remarks from Satie in the Henle urtext version, which has all of Gnossiene no. 1 visible:

Go here, and then click on "Look inside" on the left side of the page.
Rachtoven and Coati, many thanks for your comments, they are much appreciated. I'm glad you enjoyed them and also somewhat surprised (and gratified) that they come over as effortless. No 4 was the first time I'd played it through without some horrible errors. It was not free from all errors by any means but I'm happy that they don't get in the way of peoples' enjoyment. Whilst I am dubious about the modern insistence of all the notes being perfectly present and perfectly in order, I admire those who can do it and it would be nice to achieve it occasionally. Personally, however, my aim is to communicate what the music means to me, (even if this is primarily to myself) given that my brain somehow sabotages efforts to get all the notes in perfect order etc. We all know the process of making different errors in different takes! I find sometimes, as with No 4, that when I just sit down to play, no thoughts of making a recording, then the music takes off. One of the advantages of Pianoteq's facility of storing a midi version everything you play ...........
Posted By: Talão Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/23/21 03:26 PM
Originally Posted by Flygbladet
How sad that the sheet music you used didnt included them.
That's half the fun of playing them - like a silent wink between the pianist and the author. The audiance unaware (and should remaining unaware according to Saties instruction If I remember correctly)
Satie is such a fun character - having bought loads of exactly the same costume. Allways walking around with his umbrella.

It is said that his good friend Debussy once told him that his music lacked form. So he wrote "three pieces in the shape of a pear." That composition has seven pieces not three.
His music is quite diversified and you can find some saloon-pieces too. But it's this quirky bits we love and remember.

So shame on the publicer not including those quirky description in the score smile

Interesting. I have to go check out the "Three pieces in the shape of a pear" set. And saloon pieces? Will look for those too. Thank you.

And thank you, QuasiUnaFantasia for pointing me to a version with the remarks. I'll go translate them into English. My 4 years of middle-school French can understand some, but not all of them.
Posted By: Talão Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/23/21 03:56 PM
Thank you very much MarieJ and tyschoco for taking the time to listen to my submission and for providing feedback and encouragement!

MarieJ: I'm very happy to hear it was still enjoyable despite the annoying pedal noise. I was so disappointed with that issue and feared it ruined the recording.

tyschoco: You made my day with the "clean pedaling" comment :-) That is one part I sometimes still struggle with (in general) and try not to let things get too "wet" as my teacher says. Especially with the many grace notes in this piece, my teacher said it was important to "clean" them with the pedal so we hear the main note clearly. I fully agree with you that I could have added more variation in dynamics and phrasing. Another suggestion for variation my teacher gave me, which I did not yet implement, was voicing of the chords. Say in one pass voice them more toward the bottom (for a "darkness" effect) and another pass voice them more toward the top. I need to experiment with all of this.
Posted By: P Westberg Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/23/21 05:02 PM
I've enjoyed listening to the submissions over the past week and it's been great learning about composers and pieces that i wasn't familiar with. Thanks to everyone who participated, thanks to everyone who has commented on any of the recital submissions and special thanks to those who commented on my submission. As this was my first ABF recital I really didn't know what to expect!

01. Greta99 - Two Baltic Waltzes -"Tallinn" and "Vilnius" from "Reflections in Waltz"
I enjoyed these. Wasn't familiar with James Welburn. Beautiful playing!

02. QuasiUnaFantasia - 10 pieces for piano, opus 24,7: Andantino
Thank you for the introduction to Sibelius' piano music. Nicely played!

03. PikaPianist - Nocturne Op. 3 No.2
Another composer to get acquainted with. Beautifully played!

04. Sam S - Valse de l'adieu
Thanks Sam for all your work in putting the recitals together. And thanks for the introduction to yet another composer. Nice playing!

05. MarieJ - Berlin Song
I received a playlist of Ludovico Einaudi's music just yesterday. After this introduction I'll have to give it a listen.

10. KevinM - Minuet No. 1 from French Suite in B minor. No. 3
Dream like, airy, and light. Thank you!

13. Mateusz 'Mati' Papiernik - Loutky (Puppets), H. 92: No. 3. Columbine
Thanks for sharing this. Nicely played!

16. PianogrlNW (Ellen) - Preludes Op 11, Nos 9 & 17
You captured beautiful playing in this contribution. Perhaps I'll work on one of these preludes from Op 11 to see if my appreciation for Scriabin can grow too.

18. AndresVel - Two-Part Inventions, No. 9 in F minor (BWV 780)
Precise and expressive! I haven't gotten to this invention yet.

19. Talao - Gnossienne No. 1
It sounds like you enjoyed playing this. Nicely done!

23. pianist685 (Constantin) - If I could see you again
I'm enjoying learning "Kiss the rain" as my second Yiruma piece. Nice playing!

29. Flygbladet - Sonata Pathetique Mov. 1
A thoroughly convincing performance. I think your investment of time payed off. Well done!

38. CasualPianist123 - Sonata Op. 40 No. 2, 1st Movt
I enjoyed your performance. Thank you!
Posted By: stevedoz Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/23/21 07:19 PM
Thank you so much Tyschoco and Coati for your very encouraging and helpful comments.

I fully agree where I could work on sections for improvement. I think at the moment all my focus was to just try to play the correct notes as much as possible so musicality has had to take a back seat, but I look forward to trying to improve. Being the first time I've ever tried a piece with polyrhythms and arpeggio runs etc. it could be a while.
Thanks very much again. Really appreciated. 🙂
Posted By: ranjit Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/23/21 08:27 PM
Originally Posted by Sam S
21. ranjit - The Madman's Circus Did you ever see the movie Freaks from 1932? A pre-code film, uncensored. Disturbing to wimpy modern audiences. Banned in some countries. I was initially repulsed and fascinated, but now I love it. Haven't seen it in years. This would be good film music for it. Excellent improv!
Thank you! That sounds like an interesting film.
Posted By: ranjit Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/23/21 08:29 PM
Originally Posted by peterws
Wih a bit more experience under your belt, these impros will come out more logical. if you don't do logical, you're hitting wrong notes with gay (!) abandon and recovering, improvising on the fly as you do. I guess mental improvisation isn't the same as muscle memory impro.
And yet, as with Ted, I feel an empathy and almost a stricture without stricture.
I can see you were not in the best of moods.
Well done. Darn sight better than I could do!
I wouldn't quite say that the notes are random -- I think in this particular improv, a large part of it was intentional. Thank you for listening.
Posted By: ranjit Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/23/21 08:30 PM
Originally Posted by MarieJ
21. ranjit - The Madman's Circus
So many exciting possibilities here! It is like a sampler of future works, from the violent all the way to the ethereal. You really gave your fingers - and your piano - quite a workout!
I am glad you enjoyed it!
Posted By: ranjit Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/23/21 08:35 PM
Originally Posted by Coati
21. ranjit - The Madman's Circus
This sounds like a series of separate ideas, each the kernel of a distinct piece. It settles into the kernel of a piece for a while, testing it out, perhaps getting comfortable or playing it out through a progression of a pattern, before moving onto the next idea, possibly connected with the previous, or contrasting with it, or else wholly new. There's a great variety to these musical ideas, and for coming up with them in succession on the spur of the moment, that is quite impressive. I imagine it must be fun to be able to play this way, bouncing from idea to idea. It seems both a talent and a skill, a difficult one to develop, requiring both good technique and a lot of familiarity with repertoire. As a listener, I find myself thinking I'd like to hear just a handful of these kernels more fully developed, and playing off of each other, rather than moving on between so many so quickly. I think this was at its strongest when one of these kernels developed in a more complex way than a repeated pattern, or when it took an unexpected turn. In any case, well done, and thank you for sharing this.
That is a brilliant way to put it, your post certainly gives me something to think about. It's indeed quite fun, like exploring your own personal cave perhaps. People have asked me how to develop improvisation of this kind, and my usual response is to listen to a lot of music and simultaneously develop your ear to the point where you can approximate something you hear. My ear is still not good, but I feel like I've reached a point where I can convey an idea I come up with on the piano, which is the most important part.

I think there is something almost solipsistic about this kind of improvisation, where you do not care about how a listener would perceive it, or whether it follows convention or not.
Posted By: Rachtoven Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/23/21 11:38 PM
Some more comments:

01. Greta99 - Two Baltic Waltzes -"Tallinn" and "Vilnius" from "Reflections in Waltz"

Enjoyable and well played. One of the best things about the recitals is exposure to composers and music that are unknown to me. Thanks for submitting this.

02. QuasiUnaFantasia - 10 pieces for piano, opus 24,7: Andantino

Another piece that was unknown to me. Your playing was very musical and you make a great case for this composition.

03. PikaPianist - Nocturne Op. 3 No.2

A typically outstanding performance. It really is beautiful. Thanks for bringing us a great composition by an obscure composer.

04. Sam S - Valse de l'adieu

This was sensitively played and enjoyable to listen to. Great job!

05. MarieJ - Berlin Song

Excellent performance. I particularly liked how you brought out the bass notes, and the chords sounded perfectly blended.

40. OE1FEU (Peter) - Intermezzo b-flat minor Op. 117 No. 2

Beautiful playing and beautiful sounding piano. This could pass for a professional recording.

42. Marlings - Well Tempered Clavier / Prelude and Fugue 6 in D minor

Fantastic job with both prelude and fugue—it sounded flawless. I quite enjoyed this. You’re very advanced for someone who has played 4 years.

45. bSharp(C)yclist (Dan) - Invention No. 8 In F Major, BWV 779

Nicely articulated playing. Great job!

46. Agrajag - Jesus bleibet meine Freude - BWV 147

Great playing. In fact, it’s incredible for someone who has played only a year.

47. facdo - Nocturne in E flat Major, Op.9 No.2

I really enjoyed this—the piece is overplayed for a reason! Quite well done!
Posted By: lilypad Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/23/21 11:45 PM
Thank you to Serge88, Rachtoven and Coati for listening and kind remarks on my piece.

Continuing to enjoy another fine group of performances:

18. AndresVel - Two-Part Inventions, No. 9 in F minor (BWV 780) - Bach done beautifully. Well voiced with nice ornaments.

19. Talao - Gnossienne No. 1 - Very musically played. The melody was brought out nicely and the rubato blended seamlessly into the rest of the piece. Good job!

20. winterflower - The Night is Too Long and So Deep - Very pleasant original composition.

21. ranjit - The Madman's Circus - I was prepared to boredom with an improvisation of this length, but kept hearing interesting musical ideas played with what sounded like great skill. You clearly know your way around a piano.

22. stevedoz - Dawn - Welcome to the recitals. You made my day playing this and doing such a marvelous job with it. I'm a huge Pride & Prejudice fan (have the book plus 2 movie versions and a mini-series of it).

23. pianist685 (Constantin) - If I could see yoItu again - Very nice and well played. Thank you for sharing this.

24. vte - Notturno Op 28 No 4 - I'm not familiar with this composer. Thank you for sharing his music. It sounded very nice.

25. Purrblast - Invention in C Major (BWV 772) - Very well played. You played admirably, showing no sign of the recording distractions you mentioned.

27. Ganddalf - Sonata Pathetique, Second movement - The 2nd movement sounded simply beautiful to me. Now there's almost the full set of the Pathetique represented for this recital.

28. Saan Saturday - The Cat and the Mouse - What a delightful piece and very evocative of cat and mouse action.

29. Flygbladet - Sonata Pathetique Mov. 1 - It sounded to me like your hard work on this piece resulted in some impressively beautiful music.

30. sma55 (Shepherd Abrams) - Sentimental Waltz, Op 51 No 6 - I'm glad you chose the romantic interpretation. It made the music come alive.
Posted By: Coati Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/24/21 01:11 AM
Final batch of comments. What a great recital, I enjoyed listening through all of the pieces. Looking forward to next time.

36. tyschoco - Sonatina in F Major, Op 20 No 3
Great job on tackling a stretch piece, there does seem to be a lot to learn from this one. Very well played -- to my ear your control over the varied articulation of notes was particularly strong, and you also had good use of dynamics for phrasing and bringing out melodies. I'm not familiar with this Sonatina, but I enjoyed it. This is a weird observation (on the piece, not your playing), but am I the only one who heard shades of the Mexican hat dance in some of those descending runs in the first movement? The pace (and I'm assuming, the challenge) picks up with the 3rd movement, but you play it very well and confidently. Overall a very energetic and spritely mood, particularly in the last movement. Thanks for submitting it to the recital, I enjoyed listening.

37. lyricmudra - Venetian Boat Song No. 2 (Song Without Words Op. 30, No. 6)
Wow, beautifully played. Very lyrical performance, your dynamics are so expressive and lend a singing, undulating, dreamlike quality to the music that is perfect for this piece. The trills are executed so well, clean and expressive. A pleasure to listen to.

38. CasualPianist123 - Sonata Op. 40 No. 2, 1st Movt
This sounds incredibly technically challenging. Very well done on a great performance. I enjoyed listening -- a great opening that is a slow burn with building tension, which doesn't disappoint when it eventually opens up, hits full stride, and the dramatic fireworks begin.

39. cygnusdei - Fantasia in C minor, BWV 906
I'm a bit out of breath just listening to this, can't imagine performing it. Impressive performance of a challenging piece, at a relentless tempo. It's always a pleasure to hear a properly baroque piece in its full complex and intricate glory.

40. OE1FEU (Peter) - Intermezzo b-flat minor Op. 117 No. 2
Nuanced and expressive performance, your long experience with piano is evident. Very much enjoyed hearing this piece, and I look forward to hearing more of Op. 117, should you submit them in the future.

42. Marlings - Well Tempered Clavier / Prelude and Fugue 6 in D minor
A joy to hear a Bach fugue, and you've provided an excellent performance. The prelude does indeed sound relentless and demanding, but you've executed it well. For the fugue, great separation of voices, and a pleasure to hear them enter in succession and intertwine their melodies into a harmonic whole.

43. CarlosCC - One wave one sea
Great composition. To me this certainly is very evocative of the sea. To me, there's a feeling a vastness and movement here, conjuring images of the open ocean, more so than shoreline. Perhaps a long passage on a sailing vessel.

44. selfishplayer - Variatio 8 from Goldberg Variations
Very challenging piece, performed admirably. With the hugely demanding tempo here, it would understandably be frustrating to be bumping into the limits of your instrument, and having the action keeping you back. At the same time, it must be gratifying to have advanced to work on such challenging pieces that you're running into these limits. As you say, if you wanted to spend more time on this one there may be areas to work on (possibly evenness of rythym between the voices, and more separation of them). Quite an achievement to have a performaned a piece of this difficulty and with this skill.

45. bSharp(C)yclist (Dan) - Invention No. 8 In F Major, BWV 779
Probably my favorite of the Bach inventions, and certainly the most familiar to me. Well played, an energetic performance.

46. Agrajag - Jesus bleibet meine Freude - BWV 147
Congratulations on your first quarterly recital, I'm happy to have someone else join me in dipping a toe in for the first time. What a fantastic piece to start with as well, iconic Bach. Really well done, and frankly stunning to be playing this piece so well only a year into piano. I find the small fumbles near the end very relatable -- it can be a challenge to get a clean take of a longer piece, and hugely frustrating when you feel you've played well and then make some obvious error near the end. I find that you got the balance of the voices spot on, and am impressed with controlled, steady evenness of tempo throughout. Very well done.

47. facdo - Nocturne in E flat Major, Op.9 No.2
Due to some rather particular circumstances (which I'll avoid getting into), I've heard this specific Chopin nocturne, or parts of it, a lot this year. Multiple times a day for periods probably stretching over a few months. Somehow it's such a beautiful piece of music that it hasn't gotten old. I genuinely enjoy your interpretation. To me, this performance's strengths are crisp articulation, and wonderfully executed trills. This also has a great signing tone for the melody, and some well-taken romantic liberties with timing. To my ear there are a couple of brief moments of rubato early into some phrases where I'm not sure if it's intentional and maybe just a bit overdone, or if there might be some hesitation. I also think that while the phrasing overall is well done, it might have done better to soften the dynamics at the trailing ends of phrases more, particularly in the first half or so of the nocturne where there was a bit less dynamic variation in the performance. I'm really just nitpicking at this point, because you've invited criticism and, as I've mentioned, I am familair from having heard this piece so, so many times this year. Really a wonderful performance of a challenging and nuanced piece, with lots of room for expression which you have made great use of. Again, this was genuinely a pleasure to listen to.

48. Rachtoven - Piano Sonata in C Major K.545 1st Movement
Again, a very well known piece, and for a reason, as it is such brilliant music. The alberti bass section is handled well, keeping steady and in time with right hand's flourishes. You've done really well with this performance, and I enjoyed listening.

49. Pathbreaker - Nocturne No. 3 - Op. 33
I always enjoy Faure's music, and more generally I am drawn to many of the French composers from around the belle epoque, though I'm not immediately familiar with this piece. It's beautiful, and has the sweeping lushness of sound characteristic of late romanticism that I love. You're performance of it is wonderful, and I enjoyed listening.

51. RudolfRSK - Sonetto 47 del Petrarca
A challenging piece well played. This feels like it has a pensive mood to me, developing into perhaps feelings of longing tinged with moments of doubt and trepidation. This makes sense when reading your comments about some of the inspirations Liszt may have had for the piece. I think you've brought out the mood well.

52. P Westberg - Bagatelle Op. 119 No. 1
Welcome, from another newcomer to the recitals. Nicely played, I rather enjoyed your performance. I felt this had a rather orderly classical sound to it, despite being one of his later works.

53. Moo smile - Rondo in D K485
This seems like a difficult and long piece to have taken on, and you've performed it well. Brilliant and elegant music, with characteristic ostinato figures, touches of chromaticism, and surprising and subtle harmonic shifts. I enjoyed listening, thanks for sharing your performance.
Posted By: MarieJ Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/24/21 01:41 AM
Two unique transcriptions:

08. Greener / Jeff - Piazzolla Tango, Medley
I LOVE Tubular Bells, so you (and your skeleton) captured me from the first note. A lot of fun - thank you!

09. peterws - Mozart's 23rd k488 Intro
(I chose the ‘flubless’ version.) Peter, I think your ES110 has given your fingers a new set of wings! This is pure joy. The transcription exercise alone is such an achievement, and then the execution … superb!

And more Mozart:

48. Rachtoven - Piano Sonata in C Major K.545 1st Movement
A universal favourite, that really sparkled with lots of movement and enviable trills.

53. Moo smile - Rondo in D K485
You’ve achieved a lovely singing tone with this challenging piece - a most enjoyable listen.
Posted By: Moo :) Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/24/21 03:09 AM
I really enjoyed the Bach inventions. I got almost no love from these when I played them in piano meetup but it's really interesting to hear four different people playing different versions.

Also thanks for the number 13 player. I learnt the piece as an exam piece child and I forgot about it. You inspired me to buy the book.

Posted By: JB_PW Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/24/21 03:11 AM
04. Sam S - Valse de l'adieu

This type of piece is right up my alley, and I thought the performance was really nice. Thanks for sharing this composer!

09. peterws - Mozart's 23rd k488 Intro

What fun! “...hastily backed out before the key changed.” Love it! Enjoyable to listen to.

10. KevinM - Minuet No. 1 from French Suite in B minor. No. 3

I have recently starting tiptoeing into the French Suites, just a movement here and there that feels doable. Haven’t done a minuet yet. I like this one a lot and you played it very well - good tempo.

11. Ido - Invention 11 (BWV 782)

You chose one of my favorite inventions. I played this a year or two ago but never approached your tempo. So well done - smooth and steady. Your progress is really impressive! Also - thx very much for your comment on my piece; totally made my day!

18. AndresVel - Two-Part Inventions, No. 9 in F minor (BWV 780)

And here is my other favorite Invention. smile You did a nice job of bringing out the different voices, and the ornaments are coming along well. It felt like it took me ages to get somewhat comfortable with them. Very nice overall!

14. Calavera - Legend of Mana medley

I always enjoy your pieces - and it’s impressive that you adjusted the arrangement too. Really nice performance!

22. stevedoz - Dawn

Welcome to the recitals! I’ve never heard of this composer; it’s a really nice piece. Too hard for you? I didn’t catch a single mistake! Every one of us can find things to improve on. I thought it was a solid performance and enjoyable to listen to.

26. lilypad - The Great Pumpkin Waltz

I love Guaraldi’s music. I thought you did really well with this - nice lilt and flow.

35. Serge88 - Air on the G string

You can’t go wrong with a classic by Bach! I’ve always loved this piece. It’s a nice arrangement too - really enjoyed it.

36. tyschoco - Sonatina in F Major, Op 20 No 3

Stretch piece? I wouldn’t have known - excellently done. The 2nd movement seemed to be lacking in energy a little, but maybe it was by design to contrast with the others. The 3rd movement sounded really well-controlled. Overall I thought it was a great performance!

Thank your for your comments on my piece. You asked about my use of the una chorda. Well...it’s been almost a month since I recorded it, so I don’t remember exactly - but I’m fairly confident I did use it for the softest sections. It’s unclear from your comment if you are for or against it. smile

50. Coati - The Setting Sun

The tempo sounded steady to me - I thought you did a great job with this and I’m glad you submitted even though you were unsure. All levels are represented here!

I appreciate your comment on my piece. Do check out the Walter Carroll pieces! I think you will find some that you can play now or in the near future. They are generally short and there’s a lot of variety.
Posted By: Moo :) Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/24/21 03:17 AM
Thank you also for the comments. The mozart was a suggestion from someone on piano world, as is many of the pieces I learn, and my teacher said great piece when I mentioned it.
Posted By: MarieJ Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/24/21 03:43 AM
Now some Chopin:

33. jamiecw - Prelude in A Major Op28 No7
That was short - and very sweet. I wouldn’t change anything in your performance.

34. sandalholme - 4 Mazurkas Op24
Your delightfully clear and delicate touch was just right for these pieces. Flawless - perfection!

47. facdo - Nocturne in E flat Major, Op.9 No.2
What an expressive and polished rendition of a deservedly-popular composition. Facdo, that was beautiful!

Scriabin preludes:

12. JJHLH - Prelude in B major Op 27 No 2
I’ve never heard this gentle Scriabin prelude before - it ended too soon for me. Well done!

16. PianogrlNW (Ellen) - Preludes Op 11, Nos 9 & 17
Nicely played, Ellen. I wasn’t familiar with these two works either, so thanks for introducing them here.

And Sibelius:

02. QuasiUnaFantasia - 10 pieces for piano, opus 24,7: Andantino
The composer is well known, but I haven’t heard this piece before. A sensitive interpretation; your love of the music shines through.
Posted By: stevedoz Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/24/21 01:12 PM
[quote=lilypad]

22. stevedoz - Dawn - Welcome to the recitals. You made my day playing this and doing such a marvelous job with it. I'm a huge Pride & Prejudice fan (have the book plus 2 movie versions and a mini-series of it).

Thank you very much and I'm glad you enjoyed it. We must have every Jane Austen book, film and series in the house. I think she was an extremely gifted writer.
Watching the 2005 film with this piece as the title music is very magical too, when you can hear it played by Jean-Yves Thibaudet. He gives the piece an auro that I could never hope to replicate but I've really enjoyed learning it. Thanks again.
Posted By: stevedoz Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/24/21 01:14 PM
JB_PW

22. stevedoz - Dawn

Welcome to the recitals! I’ve never heard of this composer; it’s a really nice piece. Too hard for you? I didn’t catch a single mistake! Every one of us can find things to improve on. I thought it was a solid performance and enjoyable to listen to.

Thanks for your kind comments!
Posted By: ranjit Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/24/21 06:26 PM
Originally Posted by lilypad
21. ranjit - The Madman's Circus - I was prepared to boredom with an improvisation of this length, but kept hearing interesting musical ideas played with what sounded like great skill. You clearly know your way around a piano.
I count that as a win! grin I'm happy it was interesting enough to listen to all the way through.
Posted By: peterws Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/24/21 07:30 PM
36 Tyschoco

Sounded great. Piano and the piano-player. You've come a long way and your piano has a nice ring to it. the music sounds hard to me. There's plenty to get your teeth into here, and I enjoyed listening to you.

37 Lyricmudra

This oft played piece will never lose its fascination. No critical comments from me! Very good indeed. You have indeed come a long way.

38 Casualpianist 123A complex work I'm unfamiliar with. One of the joys of coming here is to here new stuff
Very easy on the ear until 2.30 when it beightens up. Splendid job! There are some good here pianists tonight. You're one of 'em!

39 cygnus dei

A complex piece. One of the joys of being here is to experience new stuff. Thx for this but I'd never be able to handle that! Well done. Sounded terrific.

40 OE1FEU

Your piano doesn't sound old at all. A wonderful sounding piece well worth a listen! And so nicely done.
Posted By: peterws Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/24/21 08:52 PM
42 Marlings

Super! You played . . .relentlessly. It's a real effort and achievement to get through this great sounding music. Well done!

43 CarlosCC

Amazing what you hear by the sea . . .one can visualise anything there. this appears deeply meaningful; nostalgic, somewhat sad. Perhaps personal; it evokes personal memories of my father who was an ex-merchant seaman during the war. Good work.

44 Selfish player

What Kawai do you have? Maybe you just need to slow up a bit and enjoy the music a tad more. You play accurately, but just a little too fast imo. I still enjoyed it though, and the piano sounded nice.

45 Bsharp(C)yclist

So much Bach, and I can see why I think (at my age) I'd rather listen than play! And it was a darned good listen . .

So much good music . . .
Posted By: AndresVel Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/24/21 10:15 PM
Thank you tyschocho, P Westberg, lilypad, and JB_PW for you very encouraging comments and suggestions on my submission. I am very happy you enjoyed it. Based on your comments, I am glad that some of the points I focused the most while learning this piece (voicing in particular) came through nicely in the recording. laugh I will make sure to introduce some of your suggestions.

Here a new small batch of comments

07. Ted Jones - Croaghaun Triptych (Part 1) This one felt very jazzy. I enjoyed it very much. It set the mood for my Wednesday evening. Thank you for sharing smile

17. JB_PW (Jen) - Mermaid's Lullaby What a lovely piece. It felt very mysterious somehow, like if there was a lot of suspense in the air. I think the style of playing you chose for this piece worked really well. Very tender touch with a very airy sound, you sort of gave the piece plenty o room to breathe. I enjoyed it very much. Good job smile

27. Ganddalf - Sonata Pathetique, Second movement Great job Ganddalf! I deeply enjoyed your submission. This whole sonata is perhaps one of the best pieces of music ever written. It is so cool you decided to work on it. I think you did great with this second movement. Lovely phrasing and chord voicing. I liked the tempo you chose and you managed to be consistent with it all throughout. This was very enjoyable. Are you working on the remaining movements? I would love to listen to them as well. Please keep us posted for future recitals smile PS: I have been diving into Mozart's music lately, and this movement has a very similar/almost identical motif than the second one of Mozart's C minor sonata. I cannot help but thinking now in Mozart's melody when listening to this movement of the Pathetique :P

37. lyricmudra - Venetian Boat Song No. 2 (Song Without Words Op. 30, No. 6) What a tasteful performance lyricmudra! Your playing was superb in this piece, you showed such a good use of dynamics. I liked a lot how you left hand supports the overall direction of the phrase and not just only stays in the background. Your trills were also very well executed. I liked this a lot. Only in a very few spots specially at the beginning when playing very piano, I noticed that the melody got a bit lost/hidden by the accompaniment, so perhaps making the left hand a bit more quieter could help there. But this is just a detail. Great playing! Your piano also has a very lovely sound.

47. facdo - Nocturne in E flat Major, Op.9 No.2 This is a very solid performance facdo! You seemed very much in control of the piece at all times. I loved your ornamentation and the good phrasing you showed us here. I think you also added very nice rubato when called for. It felt like you were playing very freely, enjoying and thinking in the music, and not so caught up on how to play it. This made your interpretation very unique. Awesome stuff smile
Posted By: lilypad Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/24/21 11:30 PM
Thank you JB_PW for your kind remarks on my piece.

My last batch of comments:

31. thepianoplayer416 - Christmas Oratorio #2 - Sinfonia in G (BWV248) - Thank you for a beautiful and impressive arrangement.

32. Pavel.K - Evening Clouds, No.9 from Album de Nina Op. 141 - Thank you for sharing this beautiful discovery. I like the way you brought out the melody.

33. jamiecw - Prelude in A Major Op28 No7 - As merely an appreciative listener, I thought the piece sounded charming.

34. sandalholme - 4 Mazurkas Op24 - Simply lovely. Thank you for treating me to Chopin works that I've never heard before. The second one was my favorite.

35. Serge88 - Air on the G string - Beautiful selection and well played. Your fingers look like they're performing a stately dance on the keys.

36. tyschoco - Sonatina in F Major, Op 20 No 3 - Impressive and enjoyable performance.

37. lyricmudra - Venetian Boat Song No. 2 (Song Without Words Op. 30, No. 6) - Beautiful and very expressively played.

38. CasualPianist123 - Sonata Op. 40 No. 2, 1st Movt - Growing your technical ability by playing a beautiful piece of music. Sounds like the strategy worked. You sounded great.

39. cygnusdei - Fantasia in C minor, BWV 906 - Impressive and beautiful. I understand why you'd suggest it as a recital piece to others and you clearly have the skill to play it well.

Bye for now. Hoping to hear more from you folks in the January Greig themed recital. Gotta go practice Arietta.
Posted By: MarieJ Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/25/21 04:01 AM
Mendelssohn, Faure and Liszt:

37. lyricmudra - Venetian Boat Song No. 2 (Song Without Words Op. 30, No. 6)
A beautifully melodic rendition - a delight from start to finish (and more highly polished when compared to your earlier recording).

49. Pathbreaker - Nocturne No. 3 - Op. 33
The first time I’ve encountered this lovely Faure piece - and I really enjoyed it. Thank you Pathbreaker!

51. RudolfRSK - Sonetto 47 del Petrarca
I think you’ve covered every possible suggestion for improvement in your lengthy list: I didn’t read any of them. smile I just listened to - and thoroughly enjoyed - an impressive performance of a gorgeous work.
Posted By: Mati Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/25/21 10:51 AM
Thank you all for the kind comments on my performance, I'm glad I've been able to introduce you to Bohuslav Martinů :-) I apologize for not commenting on the recital performances myself, I do hope to finally have time this weekend to put my thoughts into words. I just want to say I thoroughly enjoyed listening to each and every submission, which I did during my workdays! Marvelous recital and many extraordinary performances.
Posted By: Ido Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/25/21 03:48 PM
09. peterws - Mozart's 23rd k488 Intro
One of my favorite pieces! In a way, the jolly temperament of it suits you.
It is definitely challenging and I can hear you had to adjust the tempo along the way to be able to play it. I enjoyed it anyway, simply because you are so musical.

13. Mateusz 'Mati' Papiernik - Loutky (Puppets), H. 92: No. 3. Columbine
Superb playing! I listened to it many times.

18. AndresVel - Two-Part Inventions, No. 9 in F minor (BWV 780)
One has to appreciate the effort you make in listening and commenting on all the pieces. It's no wonder you are progressing so fast - your mind takes notes from every performance you listen to.
This was a beautiful performance.
MarieJ and lilypad: glad you enjoyed them and it gives me pleasure to introduce music to someone who is unfamiliar with it.
Posted By: wouter79 Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/25/21 06:23 PM
Time's going fast and I am lagging behind ! Thanks for all the comments. I'm going to read them in detail later when I have my computer working...Maybe somewhere coming weekend
Posted By: peterws Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/25/21 10:04 PM
Originally Posted by Ido
09. peterws - Mozart's 23rd k488 Intro
One of my favorite pieces! In a way, the jolly temperament of it suits you.
It is definitely challenging and I can hear you had to adjust the tempo along the way to be able to play it. I enjoyed it anyway, simply because you are so musical.
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Thanks for that, Ido. I think, for the piano, it maybe needs to be a little faster in places, and it was painfully obvious I was finding it difficult playing either too slow, or too fast. But it was fun, and still is, to play that.
Posted By: Ted Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/25/21 10:58 PM
Originally Posted by AndresVel
07. Ted Jones - Croaghaun Triptych (Part 1) This one felt very jazzy. I enjoyed it very much. It set the mood for my Wednesday evening. Thank you for sharing smile

That makes two people who discerned jazz influence, which is puzzling to me because I don't particularly like jazz and its characteristics were the last thing on my mind at the time of recording. This exemplifies the abstract power of music, in that completely different meanings can be ascribed to the same piece by different listening minds, and they are all equally valid. Pleased you like it.
Posted By: peterws Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/26/21 06:40 AM
Originally Posted by Ted
Originally Posted by AndresVel
07. Ted Jones - Croaghaun Triptych (Part 1) This one felt very jazzy. I enjoyed it very much. It set the mood for my Wednesday evening. Thank you for sharing smile

That makes two people who discerned jazz influence, which is puzzling to me because I don't particularly like jazz and its characteristics were the last thing on my mind at the time of recording. This exemplifies the abstract power of music, in that completely different meanings can be ascribed to the same piece by different listening minds, and they are all equally valid. Pleased you like it.

Interesting. Jazz was beginning to creep into classical from the time of Bach when chords (they didn't annotate as such then, i don't suppose) became not harmonic but dissonant, one such leading into another.
Someone once told me yo can't make mistakes in jazz. It's not what you play, but what follows it. And in classical, such diddonance is followed often by harmony,
Ted, you do away with boxed music! Music has no boundaries . . .
Posted By: tyschoco Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/26/21 08:35 AM
Wow so much feedback since i last commented, gotta catch up on my comments!

24. vte - Notturno Op 28 No 4

A very nice attempt at this rather obscure nocturne! I have to commend you on following most of the rhythmic changes throughout the piece and your attempts at rubato are coming through. You are making the most of the instrument you are currently using so good job!

Just a couple of critiques is that the rubato could be a little more natural by ensuring the pulse or speed of the music doesn't fluctuate too drastically. I mostly lose the adherence to the score when we get to the final part. When the rhythm changes to 6 notes per quarter note beat, bringing out the accent every 3 notes to show the quaver beats may help the listener to feel the rhythmic drive and structure of the section.

Finally, i believe in equal parts due to the limitation of the digital instrument and your pedaling, there are some places that sound rather blurred and the melody needs to sing out over the accompaniment more. When you do get occasional access to an acoustic instrument, play around with the nuance of the pedal and the balance between the melody and accompaniment. Hope to hear more from you!

25. Purrblast - Invention in C Major (BWV 772)

Ah yes, undoubtedly one of the top 10 hits on this forum, lets see your rendition is like smile

A very good attempt at it. I really appreciate your varied articulated in the half note motifs in the piece. I believe it is some combination of legato and 3 notes of non legato afterwards? Very interesting, The piece is overall rather secure and the voices are rather clear.

My only nitpick is that perhaps you entered a little bit into the romantic territory in the second half of the piece where the 'call and answer' happens. The pulse started to get pulled around which is a little unlike pieces of this style. Ironically, you could have made use of that in the final 2 or 3 crochet beats of the music as the ending felt like it needed a more convincing conclusion. But overall it is a polished product. Keep it up!

26. lilypad - The Great Pumpkin Waltz

Unfortunately i don't have access to the sheet music for this, so i cannot give super detailed feedback.

But using the a more advanced arrangement as reference, i believe that everything more or less there. The rhythmic motif and syncopation is definitely executed rather well. I like the use of a little ritard towards the end of the piece and you are keeping everything in style. Generally you seem rather secure with this piece!

If there is anything to critique, it most likely is due to the limitations of a digital instrument. The small flubs i believe is due to the lack of acclimatization to arm weight which is much easier to feel and learn on an acoustic. A similar comment for the balance between chords and the melody.
I think it is a really good product with what you have, keep it up smile

28. Saan Saturday - The Cat and the Mouse

I have to say this is a very honest attempt at a very challenging piece. You definitely are bringing out the interpretation of this piece and you should be rather proud of that. You have awareness of the mood and tempo changes throughout the piece as well as the dynamics. Technique wise, you seem have a decent grasp on finger work and execution of arm weight.

I won't go into too much detail on critique as i believe you are already aware of any flaws in the piece. My only advice as a fellow learner is to continue working on freeing up your body and improving your technical facility so that you can eventually play this piece at the standard performance tempo/indicated metronome marks by the composer.

Hope to hear your progress in the next ABF!

29. Flygbladet - Sonata Pathetique Mov. 1

I have to say that your dynamic control is very good even on the P45, the first session has beautifully contrasting dynamics and a very suitable tempo. Good pedaling too and the interpretation comes through very well.

For the main meat of the piece, you have a very convincing start and a healthy tempo. I am unable to pick up any real blemishes until measure 89 where we get to the contrary broken chord motif which seems to throw you off both times it appears in the sonata. This also subsequently seems to have disoriented your sense of pulse and speed abit. But its perfectly understandable.
Beyond that, i do not really see any major issues, i think you played the entire movement very beautifully especially given the fact that this is on a digital instrument. Stuff like pedaling and voicing is a little hard to execute given the nature of the P45 so you have to be commended to making it sound so good. Your broken chord tremolos are rather good and your landings for the right hand melodies are very accurate and the hand crossing motif is very clean.

I guess the the only thing is to practice with the metronome a little to find a more steady pulse and to deal with the contrary broken chord motif. I don't claim that i can play this better then you (far from it, i am just an intermediate player lol), but i believe the difficulty in the passage is the tension that you will pick up when you attempt to land and voice the pinkies in both hands, which will consequently cause the 1st and 2nd/3rd fingers to lock up, causing the fumbling sensation you are feeling. So one solution would be to pause on the pinkies every 1-4 beats and then deliberately check for tension in the thumb and pinky, maybe even shake and move the 1st 2nd and 3rd fingers and then continue the passage. Then memorize that feeling of release as you make it smoother.

It really is a fantastic product, keep working with your teacher if you have one and maybe consider moving on from this in a month or two to a piece of similar difficulty? It may serve you better in the long run than continuing to grind on this indefinitely.

I have some personal recommendation from Beethoven that you may find interesting. Maybe consider Op 78 (one of my personal favorites, hint hint), op 79, Op 2 no .1 ,the two Op 14 sets or even moonlight sonata. Some of these are not as popular as the usual ones, but they may be worth exploring to build your repertoire and repertoire. smile

27. Ganddalf - Sonata Pathetique, Second movement

How nice that both you and Flygbladet are presenting these two movements from this wonderful sonata!

A very very good rendition of it! I think you are very technically secure in it and i believe almost anyone listening to it will find it to be a very acceptable rendition. You are aware of the rhythmic changes and manage the part playing rather well and do not play with much hesitation. In fact the only things i will critique have nothing to do with technical stuff.

Personally, the main thing that can make this performance even better is to have some natural shaping. I do feel this tempo is a little too brisk and there are many places where tempo rubato could be used to great effect. Right now, it seems you are almost playing this metromically, but ironically, some breath marks and use of rubato to draw the listener to interesting accidentals and harmonies would make the piece sound more 'natural'.

It's funny because most players usually have the opposite problem where they negotiate too much with the pulse and tempo and have some technical holes in their playing. In your case, you can really afford to allow things to 'sing' more naturally. Try listening to a violin or clarinet rendition of this piece as this can give hints to how you need to allow 'breathing' and shaping to happen in piano.

A wonderful listen, would love to hear more in the next recital!
Posted By: stevedoz Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/26/21 10:16 AM
Thanks everyone for such a wonderful and varied recital.
I very much hope to take part again, depending on 2 main things.
Firstly I need to think what to learn.
Secondly I hope that eventually the parts needed to fix my ES8 will arrive. Unfortunately I'm not at a level where I can compensate for various notes that aren't working properly.
Take care everyone
Posted By: Ted Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/26/21 10:34 AM
Originally Posted by peterws
... Music has no boundaries . . .

Yes, that's how I operate these days Peter, no boundaries, I just let everything influence everything else without applying rules, names and labels. I ceased thinking in terms of idioms years ago for improvisation. I was trained in all that stuff as a boy though and I have always listened widely. For me music is an infinite landscape in which I am at liberty to wander at will, I couldn't handle anything less now at my time of life. Dissonance and harmony are just arbitrary options, free choices like all other musical properties.
Posted By: RudolfRSK Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/26/21 04:14 PM
Going to first respond to comments, and then get started on providing comments afterward.

Originally Posted by Sam S
51. RudolfRSK - Sonetto 47 del Petrarca Well done, especially for such little experience. Don't tell us where the errors are - of course I was watching the timer to hear the memory problem. I wouldn't have been the least bothered by it if you hadn't pointed it out, since I don't know the piece - you recovered well.

Sam

First off, thank you for the work you do for this recital. I'm very grateful for it.

On the feedback: thank you for the kind words. A now-banned member of the Digital Piano forums has in the past said something like 'playing on a Williams Allegro (the best piano I could afford for about 5 years) was less than a waste of time, it's a building of bad habits.' So I'm relieved to say that was, if not nonsense, at least not an insurmountable obstacle.

I was going back and forth on whether to self-identify errors or not. This is a unique space, in that it is both both entertainment/community performance as well a venue to solicit feedback, the 'self-identification' of errors was a little bit of a gray area. If you're soliciting feedback, I've been taught it's best to self-identify the known areas of concern - at the same time, because it's a performance by and for the community, a performer should do everything possible to make the performance as enjoyable as possible, including not unnecessarily disclosing distractions.

So that's fair feedback on your part. Thank you very much for listening!

Originally Posted by AndresVel
51. RudolfRSK - Sonetto 47 del Petrarca Congratulations on your effort so far with this challenging piece. I think I have only listened to this sonetto once so I was not very familiar with it. I have listened mostly to the companion sonetto 104. Liszt music seems always very challenging to me (confirmed after following the score while listening). You did a very good job and it is cool you have continued working on the piece. The fact you have pointed out the list of things you would like to improve form the recording already shows how serious you take piano playing and how aware you are of the benefits of listening to your own playing. I am very much looking forward to a future updated version of this piece smile Keep us updated!

Sonnet 104 is gorgeous. From a listener's perspective, I do prefer it to 47 (which isn't to say anything against 47!). Technically, 104 was a bit too much for me to take on and expect to get a recording I liked in a reasonable timeframe.

And I am still working on this piece! Since submission, I think I've made some good progress on the evenness of the first occurrence of the melodic line, both evenness and expressiveness on the second occurrence of the libretto's melodic line, and both consistency and dynamic Goodness in the RH eighth note chords the 'in tempo ma sempre rubato' section (and the voicing of that whole section has been improved - Liszt's giving me rubato (surprise!), so I should take it).

Once I figure out what the best way to post follow-up recordings is (next recital? not sure!), I'll do so.

Thank you so much for the kind words!

Originally Posted by marklings
51. RudolfRSK - Sonetto 47 del Petrarca A tough one but you came out ok IMO. You point out some obvious areas for improvements, ok, needs some working but on a very strong basis. Key elements of technique and interpretation are clearly there. Not far from a pro level performace I believe.

I very much appreciate this! I intend to keep working on it and get it to that solid bar.

Originally Posted by lilypad
51. RudolfRSK - Sonetto 47 del Petrarca - Liszt's music is truly beautiful. When I was a child, my dad took me and my sisters to see 'Song Without End' about Liszt's life. My sisters and I found the adult content boring and depressing, but my dad was probably embarrassed that he hadn't known about it before hand and had taken his kids to see it.

Ha. In the age of Wikipedia, looking up such things as 'biography of Liszt' is much easier, but if you're not aware of that, it can come as a surprise. I can imagine a conversation (not saying it happened, and not saying anyone here has this impression) going along the lines of 'These are figures of masters - why are their portrayals so crude?' In reality, these Petrarch Sonnets are (to put it in terms that I think are the most true to modern ears) extremely horny source material, and Liszt's horniest works that I've come across. Gorgeous melodic lines. Absolutely beautiful works. Incorrigibly lusty. It's not reflected in the recording I submitted, but I realized after submitting that the arpeggiated LH chords in measures 69-72 can convey quite the, uh, 'disquieted longing' if they're stretched out long enough (and it's how I've been playing/practicing those bars since then).

The author and the work can't always be separated - so in this case, I won't try! I'll use the author's context to interpret the text, and see what that interpretation yields.

Thank you very much for your comment!

Originally Posted by Rachtoven
51. RudolfRSK - Sonetto 47 del Petrarca

Wow! Very well done with a very challenging piece.

I appreciate that. Thank you very much.

Originally Posted by Coati
51. RudolfRSK - Sonetto 47 del Petrarca
A challenging piece well played. This feels like it has a pensive mood to me, developing into perhaps feelings of longing tinged with moments of doubt and trepidation. This makes sense when reading your comments about some of the inspirations Liszt may have had for the piece. I think you've brought out the mood well.

Thank you! It's not by any means a bravura, but it's still one that was difficult for me personally - so the fact that I was able to convey the mood of the piece in a way the audience can feel is something I'm glad to hear. Thanks for the comment!

Originally Posted by MarieJ
51. RudolfRSK - Sonetto 47 del Petrarca
I think you’ve covered every possible suggestion for improvement in your lengthy list: I didn’t read any of them. smile I just listened to - and thoroughly enjoyed - an impressive performance of a gorgeous work.

Thank you for the comment and the kindness! Glad you enjoyed this - the source material's good, and I hope to interpret it and reflect it as best I can. Thank you very much!
Posted By: peterws Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/26/21 11:13 PM
46 Agrajag

Very impressed! Nice light and shade, phrasing. Very pleasing and clean sound.

47 facdo

Great sound from your piano. You feel the piece well. Improvements? Very little little needed.

48 Rachtoven

Super! But the polishing is the hard bit and takes time with Mozart stuff. That left hand gets no rest You done well!

49 Pathbreaker

I liked the flow of this, and the more delicate parts wich you played nicely. It sparkled with quality and depth. Splendid!

50 Coati

Handled nicely if i might say so. I'd have held down the bass note for the whole bar (despite what the music might indicate) to give it some cohesion and continuity, if you se what I mean. Nice job!

51 RudolfRSK

The NV10 sounds really good, and complements your playing well. Perhaps you might define the melody rather more from the accompanyment, by volume. i shouldn't be sayin' this; I'd not be able to play this as well as you . . . smile

52 P Westberg

The piano sounds nice and rustic, and the music is good with some great rhythms. I enjoyed this a lot.

53 Moo

Good work on this Mozart piece. The melody sounds well and stands out nicely. Good job!

Great work, everyone. I take this opportunity to thank y'all for your comments, and submissions; also Sam for sorting this all out for us!
Next year will be the nest one, I hope . . .Keep well, guys.
Posted By: RudolfRSK Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/27/21 12:35 AM
Originally Posted by peterws
51 RudolfRSK

The NV10 sounds really good, and complements your playing well. Perhaps you might define the melody rather more from the accompanyment, by volume. i shouldn't be sayin' this; I'd not be able to play this as well as you . . . smile.

I was fortunate to get the NV10 - it was a confluence of luck and timing. It's an excellent piece of hardware.

Nothing wrong with that critique about the melodic line/accompaniment dynamic distinction - I think you're completely correct, particularly on the second and third instance of the melodic line. That melody/accompaniment distinction in the second instance of the melodic line (measure 36 onward) has been one of my recent focus areas.

Thank you for the feedback and for listening!
Posted By: MarieJ Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/27/21 03:40 AM
Three more: gems from Brahms, Couperin and Clementi.

40. OE1FEU (Peter) - Intermezzo b-flat minor Op. 117 No. 2
Welcome to the Quarterly Recitals, Peter, and what a debut on your magnificent antique Steinway. Bravo!

15. rwsavory - Les Barricades Mysterieuses
A sweet composition which sounds quite ‘modern', when in fact it was written for harpsichord more than 300 years ago. I liked this when you played it in Recital 61 and I very much enjoyed hearing it again.

38. CasualPianist123 - Sonata Op. 40 No. 2, 1st Movt
A dramatic performance - impressive!

And the really 'unknowns':

01. Greta99 - Two Baltic Waltzes -"Tallinn" and "Vilnius" from"Reflections in Waltz”
I thoroughly enjoyed both of these waltzes. Your dynamics were spot-on, and your touch light and sensitive - a beautiful performance.

03. PikaPianist - Nocturne Op. 3 No.2
Thank you for finding this rare gem - and for sharing it with us so magnificently. Every listening minute was a true delight.

04. Sam S - Valse de l'adieu
Congratulations on your 50th Quarterly - I strongly echo your hopes that Piano World’s Recitals continue for ever and ever. I hadn’t heard of the composer, thank you for introducing him here. A sensitive and polished performance of a very appealing piece!

06. wouter79 - Novelette, No17
I’m glad that you managed this submission despite computer problems. It sounds like this would be fun to play; it was enjoyable and fun to listen to.
Posted By: MarieJ Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/27/21 11:19 PM
13. Mateusz 'Mati' Papiernik - Loutky (Puppets), H. 92: No. 3. Columbine
Very interesting background to this piece; I had no trouble visualising Columbine’s antics while I listened. Beautifully played!

17. JB_PW (Jen) - Mermaid's Lullaby
A sweet and evocative miniature. I love hearing a very simple composition, sensitively executed - and you delivered, so thank you for this!

22. stevedoz - Dawn
Welcome, stevedoz. A new participant, and a totally new piece. If there were ‘things to improve on’ they were well hidden, and certainly, you were able to handle the level of difficulty - most enjoyable!

23. pianist685 (Constantin) - If I could see you again
I hadn’t heard this Yiruma creation before - I should look into more of his work. Your clear touch made for a highly polished performance. Well done!
Posted By: MarieJ Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/28/21 03:20 AM
14. Calavera - Legend of Mana medley
I can only begin to imagine the hours of work you put into this submission, but to me the result was worth all of the effort. Appealing, atmospheric and dramatic: what's not to love in this medley! thumb

24. vte - Notturno Op 28 No 4
That was a pleasant little piece, one quite unknown to me. You brought out the melody well, I really enjoyed it.

26. lilypad - The Great Pumpkin Waltz
The title of this alone had me intrigued. It was fun to listen to, and sounded like fun to play. Super!

28. Saan Saturday - The Cat and the Mouse
Welcome to the Quarterly Recitals, Saan, I’m glad you were able to participate. Your performance painted a very vivid sound picture; I think the cat and mouse were actually romping on the keyboard. Nice work.

32. Pavel.K - Evening Clouds, No.9 from Album de Nina Op. 141
So many unfamiliar composers - Recital #64 has been a feast! This find was a little gem. A lovely rendition - thank you!

36. tyschoco - Sonatina in F Major, Op 20 No 3
You certainly set yourself a challenge, and you rose to it - with superb results! Not in the least beyond your skill level and no ‘dirty laundry’ to be found, in my opinion! smile
Posted By: Calavera Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/28/21 09:13 AM
11. Ido - Invention 11 (BWV 782)
I enjoyed this clean Bach performance. Nice piano sound too. Thanks for sharing.

12. JJHLH - Prelude in B major Op 27 No 2
That doesn't seem like an easy piece in terms of mood and musicality, but I thought your performance was convincing and enjoyable.

13. Mateusz 'Mati' Papiernik - Loutky (Puppets), H. 92: No. 3. Columbine
It does sound theatrical. The change aroud 0:50 is quite enthralling. That was a fun piece and performance to listen to.

15. rwsavory - Les Barricades Mysterieuses
Nice and even, and there's enough variation across the repetitions to keep the piece interesting.

16. PianogrlNW (Ellen) - Preludes Op 11, Nos 9 & 17
Nice job! Both your comment and the performances make it sound like you enjoyed playing these preludes.

17. JB_PW (Jen) - Mermaid's Lullaby
The piece is short but sounds pregnant with meaning, not unlike a short poem in fact. Really nice playing and the opening is delightful. Thanks for sharing this piece, Jen.

18. AndresVel - Two-Part Inventions, No. 9 in F minor (BWV 780)
Really nice and you seem to have an impeccable sense of musicality, especially for someone with less than 2 years' experience.

19. Talao - Gnossienne No. 1
Nice! The pedal noise didn't bother me.

20. winterflower - The Night is Too Long and So Deep
Interesting. It sounds pensive and peaceful to me. Thanks for this improvisation.
Posted By: SMA55 Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/28/21 01:52 PM
I'm still making my way through the various performances in this recital, but I can say that I'm really enjoying listening. Thanks everyone for your submissions! Also, thank you to all for listening to my own performance, and especially to the following individuals who took the time to comment upon it:
Sam S, marklings, Ido, KevinM, Greener, peterws, Serge88, MarieJ, Rachtoven, Coati, and lilypad.
Posted By: MarieJ Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/29/21 01:26 AM
Another magical Recital, with so much wonderful music.

I’ve just been revisiting the comments on my submission, reflecting on how much they encourage me to persevere with ‘pianoing’: it can be a lonely journey. Thank you to everyone who listened.

To peterws, Pathbreaker, Flygbladet, Sam S, Serge88, marklings, tyschoco, Talāo, lilypad, Coati, KevinM, Greener, Calavera, AndresVel, Ido, P Westberg and Rachtoven: extra special thanks for your kind and supportive words.

And Sam S, your ongoing work in managing these Recitals deserves super-special thanks! thumb
01. Greta99 - Two Baltic Waltzes -"Tallinn" and "Vilnius" from "Reflections in Waltz"
Nice to hear 2 contrasting pieces. Love the performance. Nice to be #1 on the list.

02. QuasiUnaFantasia - 10 pieces for piano, opus 24,7: Andantino
Great dynamics from soft to loud.

03. PikaPianist - Nocturne Op. 3 No.2
Nice playing with good dynamics. I haven't heard many Chopin Nocturnes. Always nice to hear a new piece.

04. Sam S - Valse de l'adieu
A lovely piece. Sounds very romantic. Can use it for background music for a candlelight dinner.

09. peterws - Mozart's 23rd k488 Intro
Always nice to hear a piece of Mozart. The sustain is a bit strong to my liking. Otherwise nice playing.

10. KevinM - Minuet No. 1 from French Suite in B minor. No. 3
Good articulation. Nice playing.
There are 2 versions to this piece. The difference is a few notes in the melody line in the lower half. Some students would play variation A and others would play variation B. I tried them both and found B more interesting.
In the future you can add the Trio (3-part) after to make the Minuet complete.

11. Ido - Invention 11 (BWV 782)
Nice playing in a slower tempo. Some students would run a Bach invention in a faster tempo like technical pieces.

12. JJHLH - Prelude in B major Op 27 No 2
Nice playing. Not familiar with this piece. Has a dreamlike feel to it.

35. Serge88 - Air on the G string
Nice arrangement and tempo. Has a very calming sound.
Around 2:01 in the audio recording RH plays a long B and LH plays a scale run E-F#-G#-A-B your LH played a G instead. After that the RH is supposed to play A-G#-F#-E you played G. In the repeated section 3:29 the same 2 notes supposed to be G# instead of natural.

36. tyschoco - Sonatina in F Major, Op 20 No 3
A niece piece. Sounds very uplifting & cheerful.

44. selfishplayer - Variatio 8 from Goldberg Variations
A technical piece well played.

45. bSharp(C)yclist (Dan) - Invention No. 8 In F Major, BWV 779
Nicely played. 1 of my favorite Bach Inventions besides #4 in Dm & #13 in Am. Prefer a lighter touch however.

46. Agrajag - Jesus bleibet meine Freude - BWV 147
Very relaxing. Always nice to hear a Bach chorale. Can hear the different lines. Thanks for sharing. 3 Bach pieces at different levels 1 after another (#44-46) turning the recital into almost all Bach

47. facdo - Nocturne in E flat Major, Op.9 No.2
A common piece that one can never get bored listening to. Nice playing
The last time I heard this piece was someone playing on a public piano while on vacation.

48. Rachtoven - Piano Sonata in C Major K.545 1st Movement
Nice playing. Got all the notes.
The only thing to comment on is coming to the end of the first section (24s in the audio) the playing was a bit rushed. In the repeat (1m20s) the same. The 3 stacks of notes to end the section should be played longer.

49. Pathbreaker - Nocturne No. 3 - Op. 33
Nice playing. 1 of the few pieces I haven't heard before.

50. Coati - The Setting Sun
Sounds like the piece could have been written by JS Bach instead of someone else in the family. Nice playing & interesting title.

52. P Westberg - Bagatelle Op. 119 No. 1
Nice playing.

53. Moo smile - Rondo in D K485
Nice playing of a Mozart piece.
Posted By: tyschoco Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 11/30/21 12:11 AM
30. sma55 (Shepherd Abrams) - Sentimental Waltz, Op 51 No 6

I really appreciate the effort you are putting to bring out the emotional characteristics in this piece. You are making a conscious effort to play with direction and phrasing and it is definitely conveyed to the listener. Good control of the dynamics as well! While i am someone to tends to be a little more on the side of playing things with a little more consistent tempo, i nonetheless appreciate your attempt to interpret it the way you felt made sense. Beyond that, i don't have much critique except perhaps you could bring out the dotted half notes in the left hand a little to give a small emphasis on the *one* , two, three feeling of a waltz.


32. Pavel.K - Evening Clouds, No.9 from Album de Nina Op. 141

Huh, another composer i never heard about. This will be interesting.
A very charming piece. It is very stable and well executed. Your voicing is coming through where it needs to and you have some shaping ideas as well! Good job!

33. jamiecw - Prelude in A Major Op28 No7

Another classic!

Beautifully played, i really don't have much to critique because you seem rather secure with it and you are making deliberate attempts for interpretation and shaping! Usually i don't say this, but perhaps for more detailed feedback, maybe you could afford to pick a slightly more difficult Chopin piece for the next ABF (maybe B minor no 6, no 4 in e minor or even no.9)

34. sandalholme - 4 Mazurkas Op24

Oho, recital style. This is a rather large undertaking and i am excited to see the result you managed to put out!

Op 24 No 1, Lento: You have a very good control over the dynamic level and the touch from the get go. Your rhythm is also quite secure while adding natural rubato when and where is appropriate. Good shaping ideas and dynamics, very nice.

Op 24 No 2, Allegro non troppo: Capture the mood of this mazurka rather well and your dynamic ideas come through. Your melody sings out comfortably and your momentum and direction serves this piece well. Perhaps the pulse could be more consistent throughout the piece as the theme in the first 4 bars are played at a much slower pulse compared to the rest of the piece. The left hand theme could be played out more in the second half of the D flat major section.

Op 24 No 3, Your rubato is rather natural in this one, the pulse is much more consistent within the romantic style. You are playing this selection very characterfully and with good shaping!

Op 24 No 4: Good Voicing, you bring the melodies within the textures rather well! Very good nuanced control of the dynamics in this piece. You bring out the performance directions rather well such as the accents and con forza.

I think you should be very proud of your recordings of the mazurkas! You are getting a good foundation in the romantic period and Chopin's style. You have some solid musical ideas built on a good foundation and i hope to see where you progress from here. Maybe i may take your idea and submit a compilation of selections from Schumann's Kinderszenen or Mendelssohn's song without words when i get good enough to tackle them haha!

35. Serge88 - Air on the G string

Very beautifully played! Your melody is voicing out beautifully over the rest of the texture and you bring out the mood of this piece very well. You are definitely enjoying yourself in this piece and it was a very pleasurable listen. I think you are doing good work with your teacher, hope to hear more smile

36. tyschoco - Sonatina in F Major, Op 20 No 3

Thanks for the feedback from everyone so far, i much appreciate the words of encouragement smile

37. lyricmudra - Venetian Boat Song No. 2 (Song Without Words Op. 30, No. 6)

A very good interpretation of this piece. You have some very clear musical ideas and you are shaping this piece very beautifully. You better believe there is a significant difference from the previous recording! I love you attention to the dynamics and the use of tempo rubato tastefully. You coordinate the trill with the left hand well and your balance is really good. My only small (subjective) interpretive suggestion is perhaps i would give a very small delay and use of a poco allargando before the double forti in measures 29 and 51 as there is a corresponding change in tonality and the build up to the loudest dynamic in the piece. But your interpretation was really beautiful as is!

39. cygnusdei - Fantasia in C minor, BWV 906

A very good attempt at this piece! It is a very difficult level of repertoire and your tempo was rather ambitious which you handled rather well! I believe with more time your will gain more control over your finger work and your mind will work 'more like clockwork' as you described in your post. My only critique is that there could be more conversations between the themes in both voices as right now, its does sound like right hand is leading the charge most of the time.

Since you have the skill level, perhaps look into some of the WTC preludes and fugues or french suites if you haven't already? I think you would greatly benefit from the increased exposure to pieces of a similar difficulty and style and might serve you in your pursuit for 'fingers of steel' and a 'mind like clockwork' smile

40. OE1FEU (Peter) - Intermezzo b-flat minor Op. 117 No. 2

Certainly a slightly more moving tempo for this intermezzo compared to some other performers. But its a convincing tempo nonetheless as the score clearly states con molto espessione! Your voicing is very good and the textures never impede the singing line. You execute the dynamics changes rather well and you keep the tone appropriate for this intermezzo. Good use of rubato throughout the piece. The only thing can suggest is to make the quaver beats a little more obvious to the listener as right now, i am losing orientation to the pulse in certain spots. Well played!

Perhaps you could afford to post a larger set of works next time? you certainly have the ability to do so! More beautiful playing for me to listen to.
tyschoco: many thanks for the detailed response. Much appreciated. Yes, I am prone to end up faster, or slower, at the end of a piece! Glad you enjoyed them generally. A bit cross - at myself - for the LH not being prominent in No2, as I love it when Chopin moves the melody to the bass line. It shows that what I think I'm doing is not always obvious to the listener. Rubato is always a tricky one: how much, how little etc. (And of course, not losing track of the basic pulse!) Extracts from Kinderszenen and two or more Mendelssohn's SwW? Go for it whenever you are ready.
Third batch, working backwards, concentrating on classical works.


32. Pavel.K - Evening Clouds, No.9 from Album de Nina Op. 141
This one I had never heard before. Very clearly articulated, and also rhythmically played.

31. thepianoplayer416 - Christmas Oratorio #2 - Sinfonia in G (BWV248)
Impressive work on the transcription for piano! The playing was admirably consistent both with respect to dynamics and tempo.

30. sma55 (Shepherd Abrams) - Sentimental Waltz, Op 51 No 6
Delightful! Tchaikovsky is always a great choice, and this certainly applies here. Your rendition was a pleasure listening to.

29. Flygbladet - Sonata Pathetique Mov. 1
I wish it were me who could play that. Great, just great! And, somehow your P45 actually sounds like an acoustic (are you an Audacity wizard?)

28. Saan Saturday - The Cat and the Mouse
Now that's a quirky piece! But terribly difficult (as far as I can tell). Captivating performance!

27. Ganddalf - Sonata Pathetique, Second movement
Beautiful! This haunting piece of music is in good hands in your treatment.

25. Purrblast - Invention in C Major (BWV 772)
Clear, brisk performance. Well done!

24. vte - Notturno Op 28 No 4
Never heard of that composer until you brought him up. Thanks for doing that! You brought out a very dreamy flavour in the piece. Good work!
Posted By: AndresVel Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 12/06/21 10:42 PM
Thank you Calavera for your comments on my piece smile

Originally Posted by Ido
One has to appreciate the effort you make in listening and commenting on all the pieces. It's no wonder you are progressing so fast - your mind takes notes from every performance you listen to.
This was a beautiful performance.
Thank you Ido. I genuinely enjoy a lot listening to recordings and classical music. It just keeps getting more interesting. As I learn on my own piano path and read about composers and styles etc. there are always new things to catch up when listening to music. These recitals are mostly a source of inspiration for me. We have amazing talented piano players in our ABF community smile

Originally Posted by Ted
[quote=AndresVel]
That makes two people who discerned jazz influence, which is puzzling to me because I don't particularly like jazz and its characteristics were the last thing on my mind at the time of recording. This exemplifies the abstract power of music, in that completely different meanings can be ascribed to the same piece by different listening minds, and they are all equally valid. Pleased you like it.
This is very interesting indeed. Amazing how our perception of music can be so personal and unique.

Originally Posted by RudolfRSK
Sonnet 104 is gorgeous. From a listener's perspective, I do prefer it to 47 (which isn't to say anything against 47!). Technically, 104 was a bit too much for me to take on and expect to get a recording I liked in a reasonable timeframe.

And I am still working on this piece! Since submission, I think I've made some good progress on the evenness of the first occurrence of the melodic line, both evenness and expressiveness on the second occurrence of the libretto's melodic line, and both consistency and dynamic Goodness in the RH eighth note chords the 'in tempo ma sempre rubato' section (and the voicing of that whole section has been improved - Liszt's giving me rubato (surprise!), so I should take it).

Once I figure out what the best way to post follow-up recordings is (next recital? not sure!), I'll do so.

Thank you so much for the kind words!
104 and 123 have been my favorites, but since your submission I have had No 47 on my playlist and it is growing on me.
Next recital could work or otherwise directly as a post on the ABF forum or in Member Recordings in the Pianist forum. In any case, I would be happy to listen to your progress smile
Posted By: AndresVel Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 12/06/21 10:57 PM
I finally managed to finish listening to the recital after some very busy weeks at work. This is the fifth recital I have taken part on, and I think this might be the one with the higher quality of playing. I was constantly amazed by everyone's talent and commitment to these recitals. Thank you everyone for keep making these recitals such an amazing event smile

Here my last set of comments

08. Greener / Jeff - Piazzolla Tango, Medley Lovely submission Greener. Some parts were very romantic and reminded me a bit of the music my mother always listens to, which included of course Tango but also some Clayderman and similar. Your new recording setup sounds very good too!. Thank you for sharing.

09. peterws - Mozart's 23rd k488 Intro This was lovely peter! first of all, props to you for deciding on taking on this project. I also love that concerto, and one could tell from your descriptions and mostly from your playing, that you enjoy it a lot too. I think you did a very good job in general, although I specially enjoyed the second half, from measure 30 till the end. Your phrasing in that part was very tasteful and your articulation was on point smile Wouldn't it be cool to be able to play a concerto with orchestra once? It would most probably never happen to me but that must be a very nice feeling. Thank you for your submission smile

10. KevinM - Minuet No. 1 from French Suite in B minor. No. 3 Beautiful playing Kevin! I liked the clarity and steady tempo all throughout. You also use well the left hand bass and highlighted it a couple of times creating great contrast. I also enjoyed a lot the sound of your recording. It fit very well the piece. Great playing, thank you for sharing.

19. Talao - Gnossienne No. 1 Yes my favorite Satie's piece!! Lovely playing Talao, a lot of feeling and emotion. You added nice dynamic variations here and there to emphasize some phrases and that kept things interesting. I have always found Satie's music very deceptive and harder than it looks. You seem to have grasped some of his style already. I tend to struggle a bit with pieces that are very slow, also in terms of concentration, but you seem to have no such problems. Well done smile looking forward to your next recital submission.

20. winterflower - The Night is Too Long and So Deep This was lovely. First of all, your sound settings on Pianoteq are on point! Lovely rich warm sound from that Bluthner. I loved your playing. This was very soothing and full of nuances, but at the same time very interesting all throughout. I never lost attention in your playing. Great improvisation skills. Thank you for sharing.

28. Saan Saturday - The Cat and the Mouse Saan what a cool fun piece! i enjoyed this one a lot! This reminded me a bit of a Prokofiev piece. There was just so much humor all throughout, and it looked like the most fun thing to play with all those hand crossing, rolled chords, rhythm changes and keyboard exploration. You played it with a lot of energy and that made the recording very special. I like your glissandos a lot. I have tried a couple for fun but it always hurts a bit hah :P What a fun submission! Thank you for taking part in this recital.

29. Flygbladet - Sonata Pathetique Mov. 1 Amazing playing Flygbladet. You should be very proud of your efforts with this piece an of the recording you got. When reading your description I thought there would be a section where still a lot of work was needed or where errors will start creeping in, but I found none of that. We are usually our worst critics (although I think that is in general a good approach),. I found instead a very emotional playing. Great use of dynamics and tempo variations, and pauses were very well added to the piece. As a suggestion I would recommend to make the opening statement more contrasting in terms of dynamics. Awesome stuff!

30. sma55 (Shepherd Abrams) - Sentimental Waltz, Op 51 No 6 Tchaikovsky indeed knew how to compose a waltz. I had never heard this one before. I am in general not so familiar with his piano music, more so with his ballets and orchestral works. I think a romantic approach serves this kind of pieces very well. Do you think that the less romantic interpretation has perhaps to do with keeping a dancy-more steady character all throughout? I certainly enjoyed your playing very much, and liked the middle section a lot. The way you played with tempo clearly shows your skill and experience. The recording quality is also very good, this felt like a professional recording. I enjoyed this very much. Thank you for sharing.

38. CasualPianist123 - Sonata Op. 40 No. 2, 1st Movt This was so good!! You put so much energy into your playing! I really enjoyed it a lot. I do agree with you, Clementi sonatas are very underrated and underperformed and in my opinion a lot of them are as interesting as many of the Beethoven, Haydn or Mozart sonatas. I had listened to the Op. 40 before, but it had been a while so thank you for reminding me of these group of three sonatas. Your playing was very energizing. You seem to have this piece very well under you fingers and I applaud you consistency with articulation all throughout and your attention to the score. Some small bits might still require a bit of polishing but you are good on your way to get a very good rendition of this piece. Specially in the parts where the melodic line has a group of consecutive trills, I have the impression that the melody gets a bit interrupted and your playing loses a bit of clarity. You might be even rushing those measures slightly because of the trills. In certain passages I think the left hand could sing a bit more, when it gets the main motifs, but here your recording setup might be playing a role in my impressions. In general, I think that just a bit of polishing would make your recording even better. This last mile tends to be a hard one to reach but I think it is totally worth it. Are you planning in learning the remaining movements? Thank you for sharing smile

39. cygnusdei - Fantasia in C minor, BWV 906 I am in awe! This was awesome! Incredible playing. This was very enjoyable in so many levels. The clarity of your playing is outstanding so as the sense of tempo and rhythm. There was no single inconsistency in those two aspects that I could notice. The ornamentation was so enjoyable! specially these double cadence on the main theme. The only thing I would try to improve on is the quality of the recording. I read you are using a Zoom h1, but there seems to be plenty of white noise in the background. In any case, what an enjoyable submission. Thank you for sharing and inspiring us with your playing smile

40. OE1FEU (Peter) - Intermezzo b-flat minor Op. 117 No. 2 This was very interesting, a different interpretation form what I have heard before for one of my favorite Brahms pieces. I think I have always listened this piece at a slower tempo. I liked your rendition a lot. There was a lot of emotion in your playing and you added some very interesting dynamics all throughout. The sound of your grand is beautiful, lovely recording. What a cool project to take on the entire Op. 117. Please share those recordings as well.

See you and listen to you all again in February smile
Posted By: Calavera Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 12/12/21 09:30 AM
I'm incredibly slow as usual, but I like sharing some quick comments on every piece. Here's my next batch!

30. sma55 (Shepherd Abrams) - Sentimental Waltz, Op 51 No 6
Nice playing and the emphasis on emotion seems to have been the right call as far as I can tell.

31. thepianoplayer416 - Christmas Oratorio #2 - Sinfonia in G (BWV248)
A fun piece. It sounds festive and playful. Impressive work with this custom arrangement.

32. Pavel.K - Evening Clouds, No.9 from Album de Nina Op. 141
A pleasant piece played with subtle expression.

33. jamiecw - Prelude in A Major Op28 No7
I don't how it compares to professional performances, but I found your rendition pretty and enjoyable.

34. sandalholme - 4 Mazurkas Op24
Impressive work. Very clean-sounding and enjoyable performance.

35. Serge88 - Air on the G string
Beautiful and polished performance.

36. tyschoco - Sonatina in F Major, Op 20 No 3
I neither see nor hear any 'dirty laundry' here! grin Nice energy and momentum in this performance.

37. lyricmudra - Venetian Boat Song No. 2 (Song Without Words Op. 30, No. 6)
Gorgeous and expressive performance! Well done.

38. CasualPianist123 - Sonata Op. 40 No. 2, 1st Movt
I like it! Passionate, energetic and almost breathless. A grand finish too. Lovely piano sound to boot.

39. cygnusdei - Fantasia in C minor, BWV 906
Wow, that sounds like a difficult piece, yet you manage to deliver a very clean and smooth performance.

40. OE1FEU (Peter) - Intermezzo b-flat minor Op. 117 No. 2
Beautiful and excellent job with the dramatic changes.
Fourth batch ... hmm, this seems to be taking more time than I anticipated. Hopefully I'll be through this before the Grieg recital. smile


19. Talao - Gnossienne No. 1
The Gnossienne's are great, and this was excellent playing, so a really good listening experience.

18. AndresVel - Two-Part Inventions, No. 9 in F minor (BWV 780)
This was a very fine performance in its own right, and much more so considering how recently you began playing. The whole piece "felt" good to me as a listener.

17. JB_PW (Jen) - Mermaid's Lullaby
Walter Carroll is not a composer I was familiar with, but the piece was delightful, and I thoroughly enjoyed your performance.

16. PianogrlNW (Ellen) - Preludes Op 11, Nos 9 & 17
Scriabin is proving a tough nut for me to crack, and that is just as a listener. It's really strange music to my ears, but very fascinating. Your playing was simply lovely.

15. rwsavory - Les Barricades Mysterieuses
It's still an interesting piece (as I wrote the last time around), but you're clearly having a much better time with it now, and playing it a lot faster. Really nice to observe the improvement!

13. Mateusz 'Mati' Papiernik - Loutky (Puppets), H. 92: No. 3. Columbine
This is probably the first Martinu piece I have encountered, so thanks for performing this. And it was an excellent performance, elegant and fluent.
Posted By: Calavera Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 12/26/21 08:22 AM
I'm finally back for my last batch!

42. Marlings - Well Tempered Clavier / Prelude and Fugue 6 in D minor
Another enjoyable Bach submission! I think I liked the energy of the prelude better.

43. CarlosCC - One wave one sea
Very evocative of the sea indeed. A peaceful and relaxing composition.

44. selfishplayer - Variatio 8 from Goldberg Variations
An enjoyable performance and impressive work with this challenging piece. I hope you find a piano that suits you!

45. bSharp(C)yclist (Dan) - Invention No. 8 In F Major, BWV 779
This Bach piece is a treat to listen to and you do it justice as far I can tell. Nice playing!

46. Agrajag - Jesus bleibet meine Freude - BWV 147
Really clean and musical. I enjoyed your submission.

47. facdo - Nocturne in E flat Major, Op.9 No.2
A highly polished and highly enjoyable performance. Beautiful and expressive playing.

48. Rachtoven - Piano Sonata in C Major K.545 1st Movement
A pleasant performance with great momentum.

49. Pathbreaker - Nocturne No. 3 - Op. 33
That sounded beautiful and smooth as butter to me. A lovely piece played with graceful expression.

50. Coati - The Setting Sun
Submitting this was the right call. I found this performance pleasant and relaxing to listen to.

51. RudolfRSK - Sonetto 47 del Petrarca
An enjoyable and highly musical performance. The (perceived) flaws didn't bother me.

52. P Westberg - Bagatelle Op. 119 No. 1
Welcome to the recitals! Nice playing and thanks for sharing this lesser-known Beethoven gem.

53. Moo smile - Rondo in D K485
Impressive and elegantly played!


Here's to another succesful recital! And thanks to the people who listened to and commented on my submission.
Fifth, and final batch for this recital from me also (never say never). smile

Thank you lilypad, Coati, KevinM, Greener, Calavera, Ido, P Westberg, Rachtoven, MarieJ, and thepianoplayer416 for the kind comments. And thank you Sam for the heavy lifting behind the scenes.


12. JJHLH - Prelude in B major Op 27 No 2
Kind of like with Debussy there seems to be no gravity working here in this quite mysterious music, just somehow hanging in the air. It was a lovely performance.

11. Ido - Invention 11 (BWV 782)
Bach will probably never be my favourite composer, but there is a mesmerizing quality to his music when it's played really well. It was so here. Very good work!

10. KevinM - Minuet No. 1 from French Suite in B minor. No. 3
There's quite a bit going on in this piece, but it felt calm and pleasant and evidently in safe hands.

09. peterws - Mozart's 23rd k488 Intro
Mozart's solo piano works certainly have their own charms, but this is something else entirely. Just wonderful, and very entertaining!

06. wouter79 - Novelette, No17
Pleasing, and somewhat quirky work (unknown to me before, as is virtually everything by Heller), very capably performed. Nicely dynamic rendition.

03. PikaPianist - Nocturne Op. 3 No.2
Another excellent performance, really elegant. And I agree completely on this being a true gem of a nocturne. Never heard about Korganov before this.
Posted By: Saan Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 01/14/22 10:44 AM
I'm very late to this thread as I've been especially busy but I wanted to drop in and thank everyone who commented on my piece. It took me a while to finish listening but I really enjoyed the recital. The level of playing here is pretty inspirational. Great job, everyone.
Posted By: wouter79 Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 01/16/22 07:48 AM
Sorry for my lack of presence here, on top of the computer issues there there is now a severe medical issue with a family member that takes most of my time. The computer did not get fixed, I switched to ubuntu which took any remaining time. But I'm glad that I can still read your replies!

Originally Posted by peterws
6 Wouter 79

Fine resonant sounding piano which you did a fine job of micing up.
Yet another unknown piece, certainly a good 'un. You put a lot of feeling into this and it shows!

Thanks peter!

Originally Posted by Sam S
06. wouter79 - Novelette, No17 Impressive! The end of the A section sounds like - the end. Surprise, it keeps going. Well done!
Good to hear, thanks for your comments!

Originally Posted by Serge88
06. wouter79 - Novelette, No17
Interesting two parts piece.
Yes!.

Originally Posted by Talao
6. wouter79 - Novelette, No17
Another unfamiliar piece to me. Very nicely played! I particularly like the contrast between the A and B parts and how they fit together.
Great to hear you liked it!
Posted By: wouter79 Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 01/16/22 07:59 AM
Originally Posted by lilypad
06. wouter79 - Novelette, No17 I really enjoyed the contrast between the sections. I'm sorry about your computer difficulties, but not sorry that I got to hear this piece.
lilypad good to hear that.



Originally Posted by Coati
06. wouter79 - Novelette, No17
Sorry to hear about your computer, hope that they finish a proper repair, or provide a replacement, soon. Thanks for introducing me to yet another lesser-known composer, and one who seems to have been rather prolific. This piece has a very stately sound and orderly structure. I feel it is sort of harkening back to classical composition, despite being in the romantic period. You've captured that feeling well, I think

Coati thainks for the elaborate comment. The computer was replaced with a completely empty one, I wasn't happy with that, see my comments above... Yes Heller is a bit more on the classic than romantic side I think.

Originally Posted by Greener
6. wouter79 - Novelette, No17

A very lively and interesting listen. Also, sounds like quite a handful with lots of contrast. Great choice of piece and yes, I quite enjoyed that.
THanks Greener, good to hear.

Originally Posted by Calavera
06. wouter79 - Novelette, No17
Fun and interesting piece! I liked your controlled and graceful performance.
Thanks Calavera!


Originally Posted by AndresVel
06. wouter79 - Novelette, No17 This seems a very fun piece to play but it also sounds very challenging. Specially the arpeggiated figure in the right hand seems a hard one to get right, to keep it very nice legato but also piano. I liked how you take care of the score and follow the dynamics and articulation as written. You also put a lot of passion to the forte sections and made a very nice contrast to the piano part in the second half. As you mentioned, some sections still need some polishing but I think you are very well on track in case you are planning to keep working on this piece.

Andres thanks for the detailed comment! Yes especially at the start I always have troubles getting afst arpeggios right, my hand needs some notes first to settle. I moved on to the next piece but I keep working on these issues!

Originally Posted by MarieJ
06. wouter79 - Novelette, No17
I’m glad that you managed this submission despite computer problems. It sounds like this would be fun to play; it was enjoyable and fun to listen to.
MarieJ thanks for the feedback and great that you liked it !


Originally Posted by QuasiUnaFantasia
06. wouter79 - Novelette, No17
Pleasing, and somewhat quirky work (unknown to me before, as is virtually everything by Heller), very capably performed. Nicely dynamic rendition.
Yes, Heller got lost somewhere between the great romantics as Schumann Schubert Liszt etc. But this etudes album just works for me. Thanks!
Posted By: Swede Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 01/18/22 10:01 PM
19. Gnossienne,

Nice static chords, though for me a bit to static, i kind a zoom out. Good dynamics melody soft/forte. Piece feels a little dead, but maybe thats what Satie wanted. Meditation. I think i prefer more flowing dynamics. What do you want to communicate with the piece? My amateurish thoughts.
Posted By: Swede Re: Recital #64 - General Discussion Room - 01/19/22 03:36 AM
33. Chopin op 28 no 7. Very good, you could improve by getting a finer/more expensive instrument. Maybe pianoteq/garritan cfx or hybrid piano maybe combined. You can then have more nuances in every note. Thoughts from an amateurish piano primate.
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