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Posted By: major_key_minor Quality of the Tune - 07/03/20 02:14 PM
Hi all. My piano got tuned a couple of weeks ago and this is a recording i made of all 88-keys a few days after the tune. Apologies for the length. I have listened to it a few times and the piano sounds very in-tune to me but would like to get your opinion.

I mostly want to know how well my ears can detect out of tune keys so i can improve on it. Thanks for giving it a listen.
Posted By: Hakki Re: Quality of the Tune - 07/03/20 03:13 PM
Well there are some unisons that are not dead on.

But to assest the tuning you should also listen for octaves, fifths, fourths, tenths etc.
Posted By: major_key_minor Re: Quality of the Tune - 07/03/20 05:22 PM
Originally Posted by Hakki
Well there are some unisons that are not dead on.

But to assest the tuning you should also listen for octaves, fifths, fourths, tenths etc.

Thanks, will do.
Posted By: P W Grey Re: Quality of the Tune - 07/03/20 05:58 PM
It is not unusual for a few keys to come out of dead on perfect unison even within a week. What kind of piano is it, how long had it been since last tuned, what is the humidity control situation like, etc?

All in all I would say that he/she did a very good job. There are clearly anomalies in the scale that the tuner had to deal with, and from what I heard seemed to handle them quite well.

Peter Grey Piano Doctor
Posted By: major_key_minor Re: Quality of the Tune - 07/04/20 01:23 AM
Originally Posted by P W Grey
It is not unusual for a few keys to come out of dead on perfect unison even within a week. What kind of piano is it, how long had it been since last tuned, what is the humidity control situation like, etc?

All in all I would say that he/she did a very good job. There are clearly anomalies in the scale that the tuner had to deal with, and from what I heard seemed to handle them quite well.

Peter Grey Piano Doctor

Thanks for giving it a listen. The piano is a 3 year old K300. I made the recording a couple of days after the tuning. According to my hygrometer, the humidity variation within that period was about 2%. This was the first tuning after delivery. Delivery was roughly 7 weeks ago. I have no idea when it was last tuned but because it was a display model at the store, i'm guessing it was tuned frequently.

He performed the tuning very quickly and was done within an hour. He mentioned it really wasn't that bad in the first place. I'll take your approval as a good sign to call him back for the next tuning smile
Posted By: Beemer Re: Quality of the Tune - 07/05/20 09:42 AM
Originally Posted by major_key_minor
Hi all. My piano got tuned a couple of weeks ago and this is a recording i made of all 88-keys a few days after the tune. Apologies for the length. I have listened to it a few times and the piano sounds very in-tune to me but would like to get your opinion.

I mostly want to know how well my ears can detect out of tune keys so i can improve on it. Thanks for giving it a listen.
I heard only a handful of choir notes that were not beating. The rest require a fine tuning. It takes many hours of listening to choir strings being tuned before your ears recognise when the choir is tuned. Some individual strings will emit beats ("false beats") no matter how it is tuned. This can be caused by small variation in string diameter, a kink when being installed or the bridge termination having a problem. It occurs when the string vibrates along its length as well as horizontally. Skilled tuners can adjust the other choir strings to minimise the effect of the strings false beating.
The tone quality of your piano to me sounds very good.
Ian
Posted By: major_key_minor Re: Quality of the Tune - 07/05/20 01:28 PM
Originally Posted by Beemer
Originally Posted by major_key_minor
Hi all. My piano got tuned a couple of weeks ago and this is a recording i made of all 88-keys a few days after the tune. Apologies for the length. I have listened to it a few times and the piano sounds very in-tune to me but would like to get your opinion.

I mostly want to know how well my ears can detect out of tune keys so i can improve on it. Thanks for giving it a listen.
I heard only a handful of choir notes that were not beating. The rest require a fine tuning. It takes many hours of listening to choir strings being tuned before your ears recognise when the choir is tuned. Some individual strings will emit beats ("false beats") no matter how it is tuned. This can be caused by small variation in string diameter, a kink when being installed or the bridge termination having a problem. It occurs when the string vibrates along its length as well as horizontally. Skilled tuners can adjust the other choir strings to minimise the effect of the strings false beating.
The tone quality of your piano to me sounds very good.
Ian

Thanks for the feedback Ian.
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