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Posted By: gooddog Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 09:57 PM
...or is it just me?

Another boring party. I’m just not that interested in television, what’s playing in the movies and sports. When I tell people I’m deeply into classical piano, they say, “Oh,” and the conversation doesn’t progress. (I’d love to exchange ideas about composers, interpretation, technique, musicians and repertoire). When I tell them I teach high school science, their eyes go blank and they run in terror. Of course, when I ask them about themselves, they’ll talk on until my eyes cross. I’m pretty comfortable being different but I really do miss having conversations about things that interest me. I'd love to learn something new besides who won American Idol. (Yawn). You too?
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 10:01 PM
YES!!!!! [Linked Image]
Posted By: Nikalette Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 10:01 PM
Well, in light social conversation, in the USA, it's really not about getting into depth in any topic, but exchanging small tack with people for socialization. Just friendly light social talk until you run into someone (if) you have something in common with.

It's a different story in France.
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 10:10 PM
I'm lucky to also be real interested in sports, and pretty curious about what's on TV (although I can't much contribute to that discussion). smile

And I'd be curious as heil to hear all about your teaching h.s. science. I'd have millions of questions.

So I guess I am weird. ha
Posted By: Piano Again Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 10:22 PM
Originally Posted by gooddog
...or is it just me?

Another boring party. I’m just not that interested in television, what’s playing in the movies and sports. When I tell people I’m deeply into classical piano, they say, “Oh,” and the conversation doesn’t progress. (I’d love to exchange ideas about composers, interpretation, technique, musicians and repertoire). When I tell them I teach high school science, their eyes go blank and they run in terror. Of course, when I ask them about themselves, they’ll talk on until my eyes cross. I’m pretty comfortable being different but I really do miss having conversations about things that interest me. I'd love to learn something new besides who won American Idol. (Yawn). You too?


+1

I don't watch TV and have no interest in sports. I do like movies, but generally not the big studio ones shown at multiplexes. This is why I have just about nothing to talk about with most of the people at work (weather, anyone?) and spend so much time here.

Parties ... well, I don't talk much at parties.
Posted By: -Frycek Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 10:23 PM
Yes, I'm weird. All my friends are here.

I have no life. My day job is incomprehensible to anyone outside pathology. I raise palms and cycads. (They don't need much.) I read detective stories and I practice.
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 10:30 PM
Originally Posted by Nikalette
Well, in light social conversation, in the USA, it's really not about getting into depth in any topic, but exchanging small tack with people for socialization. Just friendly light social talk.
I hate it. It's such a bore.

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It's a different story in France.
What do you mean?
Originally Posted by -Frycek
Yes, I'm weird. All my friends are here.
I have no life. My day job is incomprehensible to anyone outside pathology.
I think pathology is fascinating. Exactly what do you do?
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I raise palms and cycads. (They don't need much.) I read detective stories and I practice.
I'd love to learn about cycads. They're some of the most primitive plants. Very cool when talking about evolution. I read political thrillers and piano books.
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 10:31 PM
Originally Posted by gooddog
...or is it just me?

Another boring party. I’m just not that interested in television, what’s playing in the movies and sports. When I tell people I’m deeply into classical piano, they say, “Oh,” and the conversation doesn’t progress. (I’d love to exchange ideas about composers, interpretation, technique, musicians and repertoire). When I tell them I teach high school science, their eyes go blank and they run in terror. Of course, when I ask them about themselves, they’ll talk on until my eyes cross. I’m pretty comfortable being different but I really do miss having conversations about things that interest me. I'd love to learn something new besides who won American Idol. (Yawn). You too?


I am weird too. smile I couldn't care less about American Idol anymore. Bloody cheat, that show is. mad
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 10:32 PM
People dump me after talking to me for a few minutes....
Posted By: jnod Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 10:36 PM
You are not alone!

By day I'm a microbiologist and spend my time studying how cells interact with antibiotics and other small molecules. I love my work but am usually unable to explain my excitement to most of people I meet.

Then, when music comes up and I get all animated about how a guy on this site showed me where original Beethoven scores are available online so that you can compare your particular 'urtext' to what LvB actually meant, well, it tends not to go well.

But you know, consider the options. I was at a party last night where I was introduced to a guy who apparently has what is a 'dream job for boys'. He's CFO for a company that develops video games. What?

I wouldn't trade with any of the normal people out there - would you?

Happy New Years everyone!
Posted By: Ludwig van Bilge Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 10:37 PM
Originally Posted by gooddog
When I tell them I teach high school science, their eyes go blank and they run in terror.

Okay, Here's a question I've been wanting to ask a HS science teacher. One day I was poking about in Yahoo Answers in the section where kids go to cheat on their homework. Somebody asked what keeps the moon in orbit around the earth. Several of the answers spoke about a balance between centrifugal & centripetal forces of gravity. I was thunderstruck. Is it possible that a nearly a century after Einstein taught us Relativity we're still teaching Newtonian gravity in school??

P.S. Who did win American Idol?
Posted By: Piano Again Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 10:37 PM
Originally Posted by ChopinAddict
People dump me after talking to me for a few minutes....


You're just not talking to the right people, obviously . . . I've gotten to the point in my life where I'm relieved when the bores get bored with me. grin
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 10:38 PM
What really irritates me is when they want me to become like them.... Like when they say I am depressed because of the music I listen to, and that I should listen to modern music, rap etc... How do they know what I like????
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 10:39 PM
Originally Posted by Piano Again
Originally Posted by ChopinAddict
People dump me after talking to me for a few minutes....


You're just not talking to the right people, obviously . . . I've gotten to the point in my life where I'm relieved when the bores get bored with me. grin


I don't find the right people.... I have been searching all my life.... I mean in real life... The Internet is a different thing, like my friends here.
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 10:39 PM
Originally Posted by Ludwig van Bilge
Originally Posted by gooddog
When I tell them I teach high school science, their eyes go blank and they run in terror.

Okay, Here's a question I've been wanting to ask a HS science teacher. Is it possible that a nearly a century after Einstein taught us Relativity we're still teaching Newtonian gravity in school??
Sorry, I'm a biologist with medical background. Physics is not my area and I wouldn't be able to answer you any better.

jnod and -Frycek, it's too bad we can't get together. It would be really neat to talk about microbiology, pathology and cutting edge biomedical research. (My middle son is studying neurobiology. We have some great conversations but no one else has a clue what we are talking about.)
Posted By: argerichfan Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 10:39 PM
Originally Posted by Ludwig van Bilge

P.S. Who did win American Idol?

The wrong person. tiki
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 10:42 PM
Originally Posted by argerichfan
Originally Posted by Ludwig van Bilge

P.S. Who did win American Idol?

The wrong person. tiki


Exactly. tiki
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 10:44 PM
Originally Posted by Ludwig van Bilge
Originally Posted by gooddog
When I tell them I teach high school science, their eyes go blank and they run in terror.

Okay, Here's a question I've been wanting to ask a HS science teacher. One day I was poking about in Yahoo Answers in the section where kids go to cheat on their homework. Somebody asked what keeps the moon in orbit around the earth. Several of the answers spoke about a balance between centrifugal & centripetal forces of gravity. I was thunderstruck. Is it possible that a nearly a century after Einstein taught us Relativity we're still teaching Newtonian gravity in school??
[...]


Because, like the Bohr model of the atom, Newtonian physics is almost right and much easier to understand for people just beginning.

Nowadays, the quantum mechanical model of the atom is preferred, but the Bohr model is still being taught at the HS level because it is much easier to understand. Besides, how could one expect high school students to study relativity beyond a purely qualitative analysis?
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 10:51 PM
Originally Posted by Horowitzian
Originally Posted by argerichfan
Originally Posted by Ludwig van Bilge

P.S. Who did win American Idol?

The wrong person. tiki


Exactly. tiki


I didn't even know there was an Australian Idol until last year.... And it was the seventh AI this year, so I didn't notice for 5 years! But I don't watch TV blush ...
Posted By: jotur Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:03 PM
I am fortunate in my friends. One of them is a middle school science teacher, so we talk about solar system models and how we think in algbebraic ways every day. One is an Aids researcher, one is a volcanologist, one a physicist, one a nutritionist, one an architect, etc. None of us watch American Idol laugh We do, however, dance and play music, so we also talk about music and learning music and music theory and ensemble work, et al. From what I can tell from here it's harder for those who play classical, and therefore mostly play solo, to meet other musicians than for those of us who play folk, where bands and groups are de rigueur, but it works for me smile And for the holidays, fortunately, my family is all weird, too laugh

Cathy
Posted By: jnod Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:03 PM
Agreed generally with Horowitzian though Einstein's view on gravity, motion etc can be taught without all the math and can be certainly explained to high school students.

Einstein developed many of his concepts though thought experiments where he imagined common experiences under uncommon conditions. The best known example is his ride on a streetcar away from a clock tower on his way to work. He imagined what would happen if instead of going 25 km/hour or whatever, he literally rode on the beam of light as it bounced off the clock. How would his experience of things around him change? The answers get progressively weirder as you move from considering how relative time changes (ie on the streetcar vs on the street) to how relative mass changes. The result (along with a bunch of other stuff) is the Special Theory of Relativity.

Similarly I would say quantum theory can be taught at a level high school students could understand using thought experiments like the Schrodinger cat idea. The main benefit of this stuff is that it's incredibly interesting!! Not to take anything away from Newton et al, but 20th c physics is totally mind-blowing. Great way to turn high school kids, at least some of them, onto science for its own sake.
Posted By: Tweedpipe Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:05 PM
Originally Posted by gooddog
...or is it just me?

Another boring party. I’m just not that interested in television, what’s playing in the movies and sports. When I tell people I’m deeply into classical piano, they say, “Oh,” and the conversation doesn’t progress. (I’d love to exchange ideas about composers, interpretation, technique, musicians and repertoire). When I tell them I teach high school science, their eyes go blank and they run in terror. Of course, when I ask them about themselves, they’ll talk on until my eyes cross. I’m pretty comfortable being different but I really do miss having conversations about things that interest me. I'd love to learn something new besides who won American Idol. (Yawn). You too?


What's American Idol?

Sometimes at parties, people find me a little weird.
However I hope their views change after the publication of my latest book entitled, 'A Truss Full Of Lentils'.
Posted By: Arghhh Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:06 PM
Originally Posted by gooddog
...or is it just me?

Another boring party. I’m just not that interested in television, what’s playing in the movies and sports. When I tell people I’m deeply into classical piano, they say, “Oh,” and the conversation doesn’t progress. (I’d love to exchange ideas about composers, interpretation, technique, musicians and repertoire). When I tell them I teach high school science, their eyes go blank and they run in terror. Of course, when I ask them about themselves, they’ll talk on until my eyes cross. I’m pretty comfortable being different but I really do miss having conversations about things that interest me. I'd love to learn something new besides who won American Idol. (Yawn). You too?


You're right - all those other people are weird.
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:13 PM
Originally Posted by jnod
Agreed generally with Horowitzian though Einstein's view on gravity, motion etc can be taught without all the math and can be certainly explained to high school students.

Einstein developed many of his concepts though thought experiments where he imagined common experiences under uncommon conditions. The best known example is his ride on a streetcar away from a clock tower on his way to work. He imagined what would happen if instead of going 25 km/hour or whatever, he literally rode on the beam of light as it bounced off the clock. How would his experience of things around him change? The answers get progressively weirder as you move from considering how relative time changes (ie on the streetcar vs on the street) to how relative mass changes. The result (along with a bunch of other stuff) is the Special Theory of Relativity.

Similarly I would say quantum theory can be taught at a level high school students could understand using thought experiments like the Schrodinger cat idea. The main benefit of this stuff is that it's incredibly interesting!! Not to take anything away from Newton et al, but 20th c physics is totally mind-blowing. Great way to turn high school kids, at least some of them, onto science for its own sake.


Yes, I agree. That's why I said "qualitative analysis". smile It is fascinating. thumb

What's even more mind-blowing to me is how powerful quantum mechanics and the various ideas that spin off of it is for explaining a lot of things we see. Chemists, for example, still use Lewis bonding theory because it is a powerful tool for predicting molecular geometry. However, both Lewis Theory and the more advanced Valence Bond Theory fail to explain why the oxygen molecule is paramagnetic (attracted by a magnet). Both indicate that it has no unpaired electrons and therefore should be diamagnetic. But experimental data shows that oxygen is attracted to magnets. The very powerful Molecular Orbital Theory reveals that the oxygen molecule does indeed have an unpaired electron in an antibonding orbital that results in the molecule being paramagnetic.
Posted By: sotto voce Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:14 PM
Everybody is somebody's weirdo. smile

I watch a lot of television, I keep Netflix busy and I'm interested in other aspects of popular culture, too. I can make conversation and "pass" for normal if I wish, but I don't really enjoy the company of people unless there's that special spark shared by kindred spirits.

I was definitely a weird kid (Aspergers, I reckon, though it was decades before it had a name), but as a young adult—especially during my years at UCLA and later when I was a newcomer to New York City—there was a seemingly endless supply of interesting people with whom to socialize (or not).

I'm relatively isolated now, and that's fine, too; social events, and the attendant pressure to be "on," are more exhausting now than ever. Often alone, never lonely is a credo that's always worked for me.

Steven
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:19 PM
Originally Posted by Ludwig van Bilge
.....Okay, Here's a question I've been wanting to ask a HS science teacher. One day I was poking about in Yahoo Answers in the section where kids go to cheat on their homework. Somebody asked what keeps the moon in orbit around the earth. Several of the answers spoke about a balance between centrifugal & centripetal forces of gravity. I was thunderstruck. Is it possible that a nearly a century after Einstein taught us Relativity we're still teaching Newtonian gravity in school??.....

Perfect example of the millions of things I'd want to ask too. ha
Posted By: thumper49 Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:23 PM
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Everybody is somebody's weirdo


Couldn't agree more. And I had the same experience as sotto voce when I left my small town home to attend university -- all of a sudden there were a lot of people just like me to talk to if I felt like it. I'm good company for myself, fortunately.
Posted By: Canonie Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:26 PM
Hi gooddog, come on over and play all your works in progress and discuss Everything to do with piano and the great challenges of mastering it... If only!!

I really need a piano friend or two. No wonder i am enjoying lessons so much, but an unpaid friend would be nice smile I'm sure I'll find one soon enough, and my very best piano-friend will come back from overseas.

I'm a happy socialiser and don't mind talking about many things. Except TV! - mine exploded many years ago rather loudly with a bright flash. Then I noticed my house was nicer without it so I never replaced it. I get more music done with no tv.
Posted By: landorrano Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:28 PM
Socialise: the English language has some strange words.
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:29 PM
Originally Posted by sotto voce
Everybody is somebody's weirdo. smile

Often alone, never lonely is a credo that's always worked for me.

Steven


That's a good credo.... smile I will make it my own.

I think they gave a name to Asperger's in the 90s. They like to give names to everything these days, like "social phobia" for "shyness"... They have given several names to my weirdness, but the main one remains Asperger's, which is OK because I like to be an aspie... laugh
Posted By: custard apple Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:30 PM
I reckon everyone on this forum is a bit weird. It attracts weird muso types. I’m not into radio pop and I don’t watch TV.
I agree that in France, people like to discuss and debate profound topics e.g. what is there after death? whereas in Sydney people at parties tend to be a bit more superficial.
Posted By: -Frycek Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:30 PM
Originally Posted by gooddog
What do you mean?
Originally Posted by -Frycek
Yes, I'm weird. All my friends are here.
I have no life. My day job is incomprehensible to anyone outside pathology.
I think pathology is fascinating. Exactly what do you do?
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I raise palms and cycads. (They don't need much.) I read detective stories and I practice.
I'd love to learn about cycads. They're some of the most primitive plants. Very cool when talking about evolution. I read political thrillers and piano books.

I'm a cytotechnologist.

Just to prove how weird I am, he's a picture of my own little "illegal alien" a caudex of Cycas siamensis "silver" I'm rooting. It came straigt from Thailand. Right now it's on top of the refrigerator keeping warm and has begun to root. Give it about a year and it should leaf out again. (Knock on wood.)
[Linked Image]
Posted By: Ludwig van Bilge Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:34 PM
Originally Posted by Horowitzian
Newtonian physics is almost right and much easier to understand for people just beginning.

In principle Newtonian physics isn't even close to right. Newtonian physics says that a force is acting on a falling object. Relativity says that no force acts on a falling body until it hits the deck. Conceptually they couldn't be more different. And are't the fundamental concepts the most important thing to teach in high school? Without the fundamentals you have nothing to build on.

Originally Posted by Horowitzian
...the Bohr model is still being taught at the HS level because it is much easier to understand.

Using that logic we might teach that airplanes fly by magic. It's far easier to understand than fussing with thrust, lift & drag.
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:35 PM
Originally Posted by -Frycek
[quote=gooddog] I'm a cytotechnologist.

But exactly what do you work on? And good luck with the Cycas siamensis!
Posted By: jnod Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:35 PM
Originally Posted by -Frycek
Originally Posted by gooddog
What do you mean?
Originally Posted by -Frycek
Yes, I'm weird. All my friends are here.
I have no life. My day job is incomprehensible to anyone outside pathology.
I think pathology is fascinating. Exactly what do you do?
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I raise palms and cycads. (They don't need much.) I read detective stories and I practice.
I'd love to learn about cycads. They're some of the most primitive plants. Very cool when talking about evolution. I read political thrillers and piano books.

I'm a cytotechnologist.

Just to prove how weird I am, he's a picture of my own little "illegal alien" a caudex of Cycas siamensis "silver" I'm rooting. It came straigt from Thailand. Right now it's on top of the refrigerator keeping warm and has begun to root. Give it about a year and it should leaf out again. (Knock on wood.)
[Linked Image]


That's deeply cool Frycek - it's amazing the things that turn out to be alive.....
Posted By: Orange Soda King Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:37 PM
Except for the science teacher part, I'm the same with you gooddog. But if you're a science teacher, there's quite a different in age between you and me.

I have other hobbies and interests I like to talk about, and although classical piano is easily my primary choice of music to listen to, I listen to some heavy metal and rock.

I get by the best I can.

The worst part is trying to get a girl. Haha! 2hearts
Posted By: jnod Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:38 PM
Originally Posted by Ludwig van Bilge
Originally Posted by Horowitzian
Newtonian physics is almost right and much easier to understand for people just beginning.

In principle Newtonian physics isn't even close to right. Newtonian physics says that a force is acting on a falling object. Relativity says that no force acts on a falling body until it hits the deck. Conceptually they couldn't be more different. And are't the fundamental concepts the most important thing to teach in high school? Without the fundamentals you have nothing to build on.

Originally Posted by Horowitzian
...the Bohr model is still being taught at the HS level because it is much easier to understand.

Using that logic we might teach that airplanes fly by magic. It's far easier to understand than fussing with thrust, lift & drag.


In principle yes though in practice not necessarily. Newton is close enough to right for much of modern engineering to work for example.
Posted By: foxyw Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:43 PM
These days I seem to socialize mostly with people of similar interests. Although very few play an instrument, most enjoy listening to music, science and cycling. Often when I meet new people, however, it's another story. I'm an organic chemist by training and once people find that out they usually say "Oh, I failed chemistry" or "I hate chemistry" so that's not the greatest start to a conversation. I also don't watch tv and don't have children. I used to read the books that Oprah recommended and other popular fiction and that often helped me to find a common ground for conversation at social events.

Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:43 PM
Originally Posted by Ludwig van Bilge
Originally Posted by Horowitzian
...the Bohr model is still being taught at the HS level because it is much easier to understand.

Using that logic we might teach that airplanes fly by magic. It's far easier to understand than fussing with thrust, lift & drag.


That's the beauty of teaching biology. On the high school level, physics and chemistry are by necessity, taught at a fairly low level. (I also teach 9th grade general science and we still use the Bohr model because it is easily understandable.)In contrast, high school level biology is always evolving (pun). We're able to introduce biotechnology, transformation, protein synthesis, protein folding and the rudiments of how antibiotics work. True, it's at a low level, but the kids find it fascinating and relevant and we generally don't have to dilute or bend the truth to gain understanding.
Posted By: -Frycek Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:44 PM
Originally Posted by gooddog
Originally Posted by -Frycek
[quote=gooddog] I'm a cytotechnologist.

But exactly what do you work on? And good luck with the Cycas siamensis!

A cytotechnlogist prescreens cellular samples for malignant cells and marks them for a pathologist. Our big success story is pap smears but we work on specimens from all body sites.
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:46 PM
Originally Posted by jnod
Originally Posted by Ludwig van Bilge
Originally Posted by Horowitzian
Newtonian physics is almost right and much easier to understand for people just beginning.

In principle Newtonian physics isn't even close to right. Newtonian physics says that a force is acting on a falling object. Relativity says that no force acts on a falling body until it hits the deck. Conceptually they couldn't be more different. And are't the fundamental concepts the most important thing to teach in high school? Without the fundamentals you have nothing to build on.

Originally Posted by Horowitzian
...the Bohr model is still being taught at the HS level because it is much easier to understand.

Using that logic we might teach that airplanes fly by magic. It's far easier to understand than fussing with thrust, lift & drag.


In principle yes though in practice not necessarily. Newton is close enough to right for much of modern engineering to work for example.


Agreed.

Originally Posted by Ludwig van Bilge
Originally Posted by Horowitzian
Newtonian physics is almost right and much easier to understand for people just beginning.

In principle Newtonian physics isn't even close to right. Newtonian physics says that a force is acting on a falling object. Relativity says that no force acts on a falling body until it hits the deck. Conceptually they couldn't be more different. And are't the fundamental concepts the most important thing to teach in high school? Without the fundamentals you have nothing to build on.


Newtonian physics is the fundamental. Einstein and others had to have a starting place after all.

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Originally Posted by Horowitzian
...the Bohr model is still being taught at the HS level because it is much easier to understand.

Using that logic we might teach that airplanes fly by magic. It's far easier to understand than fussing with thrust, lift & drag.


What does that have to do with the Bohr model vs the quantum mechanical model? Your analogy is absurd.
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:46 PM
Reply to -Frycek: Very cool. I used to be able to identify cell types, (healthy or not) and their organ location but the years have taken away that skill. Your job sounds fascinating. Are you in research or diagnosis?
Posted By: foxyw Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:50 PM
One of the college senior chemistry majors where I work remarked to me that after taking quantum mechanics in his senior year, a lot of the chemistry that he had been taught in the previous three years finally made much more sense to him. I went through the same program 25 years ago and feel the same way (although since taking this university job, I realize on a daily basis how much I have forgotten since college and graduate school, yikes!).
Posted By: -Frycek Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:50 PM
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That's deeply cool Frycek - it's amazing the things that turn out to be alive.....

Yeah, It's ALIVE!!! I felt just like Dr Frankenstein when I saw the first root.
Posted By: Chardonnay Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:50 PM
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A cytotechnlogist prescreens cellular samples for malignant cells

Is this prescreening done primarily by morphological analysis, of stained cells under a microscope? Do you (the cytotechs) also do additional tests, such as PCR? Just curious as to how things have evolved...
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:53 PM
PCR isn't a test. It's a process for amplifying DNA - yes?
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:54 PM
Originally Posted by foxyw
One of the college senior chemistry majors where I work remarked to me that after taking quantum mechanics in his senior year, a lot of the chemistry that he had been taught in the previous three years finally made much more sense to him. I went through the same program 25 years ago and feel the same way (although since taking this university job, I realize on a daily basis how much I have forgotten since college and graduate school, yikes!).


I can say that nowadays quantum mechanics is integrated into gen chem textbooks, and it has really helped me make better sense of things.
Posted By: jnod Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:54 PM
Speaking of alive, did you know that the average gram of soil contains more than 10,000 distinct species of bacteria? In fact, its the bacteria that give soil the smell we think of when we think 'dirt'. The bacteria that do this are streptomycetes - we grow them in the lab all the time. It's completely bizarre to open up a petri dish with little colonies growing on agar and suddenly get the feeling you're out for a walk in the forest.

As it happens, most of the antibiotics in clinical use are made by these particular bugs. No one knows why they do it but they do. Also chemotherapeutic drugs, immune suppressants, anti-fungals etc...etc....
Posted By: jnod Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:56 PM
Yes PCR is a way to amplify DNA but it's being increasingly incorporated into diagnosis - can be used to test all kinds of things....
Posted By: Chardonnay Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:56 PM
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Yeah, It's ALIVE!!! I felt just like Dr Frankenstein when I saw the first root.

Does this mean you're going to teach it to sing "Puttin' on the Ritz"?... laugh
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/01/10 11:58 PM
Originally Posted by jnod
Yes PCR is a way to amplify DNA but it's being increasingly incorporated into diagnosis - can be used to test all kinds of things....


Really? How? I seem to remember something about using restriction enzymes to cut the DNA to test it for presence or absence of certain nucleotide sequences and using the PCR to make enough DNA to check it out. Am I on the right track?
Posted By: foxyw Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:00 AM
One of these days I'll sit in on some of these chemistry classes like quantum mechanics. The professor who teaches it these days is excellent I hear. In the mean time I am sitting in on a music theory class in which I have learned a lot and had fun too.
Posted By: EltonRach Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:02 AM
What a great thread. I didn't even realise that the Newtonian physics I studied at shcool is now outdated. My day job doesn't require much of this knowledge.

I do feel that my interests are peculiar to a small segment of the population. It takes time to find those people - but in absolute terms - there are enough out there to have enough friends ! And when you meet such a person - it's like meeting a long lost friend.

And it's particularly interesting to have this long lost friend feeling with a person from a different culture, different land and practising a different religion.

Yes - I too feel at times that I'm weird. And it's of great comfort to read the thoughts of other weirdos (albeit similarly weird) in this thread.

I see the youths dressed up in goth, those with body piercings, men with 14 mistresses and counting, politicians who serve their own self interests, religious leaders who dress in a gown and wear a peculiar hat, those who drive around in circles on a karting track as a hobby, a wine lover who only drinks pinot noir and those who play the piano but only the digital, those who play the piano but only the acoustic, those who play the piano but only classical, those who play the piano but only non-classical . . . So I know I'm surrounded my many different weird people pursuing their weird hobbies !!!!

The world is full of weirdos. But in some respects - long may it stay that way !!
Posted By: jnod Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:02 AM
Sure that's all accurate. But there are newer procedures that allow you to monitor PCR reactions by, for example, the incorporation of a fluorescently labled nucleotide into ds DNA. There's a gizmo called a 'light cycler' that is used routinely for this kind of thing. Imagine if you had a set of primer pairs each of which recognizes a unique stretch of DNA in a particular pathogenic bacterium. If you have a sick patient and want to know what kind of infection they have, you can use this approach to find out: just to a bunch of PCR reactions on whatever fluid sample is most important: blood, sputum etc... Much faster than growing the bugs out in culture which takes days. Expensive to set up though.

we're a long way from Beethoven here eh?
Posted By: Chardonnay Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:03 AM
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PCR isn't a test. It's a process for amplifying DNA - yes?

Yes, and as jnod said- it can be diagnostic in certain settings. It is a highly sensitive method of detecting the presence of viral DNA in specimens, specifically the DNA of the strains of viruses that cause cervical cancer.

Hm, seems we have strayed far from piano- but it's kind of fun. smile
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:03 AM
Originally Posted by foxyw
One of these days I'll sit in on some of these chemistry classes like quantum mechanics. The professor who teaches it these days is excellent I hear. In the mean time I am sitting in on a music theory class in which I have learned a lot and had fun too.


Do! I love chemistry (as if you can't tell! laugh ), and I'm having more fun with it now than ever before. Lab is probably my favorite, though lecture isn't bad if the prof is good. smile
Posted By: jnod Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:05 AM
Great book for chemistry weirdos" "Uncle Tungten" by Oliver Sacks.
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:06 AM
To Jnod: I'm drooling. We high school teachers find it hard to keep up with the new stuff because they burden us with all the pedogological nonsense. I'd love to see this.
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:07 AM
Hehe, I'll check that out. Thanks!

Just to show you how geeky I am, my favorite lab involved dissolving copper turnings in concentrated nitric acid. The enormous clouds of nitrogen dioxide were lovely, just lovely!*

*As long as they remain in the fumehood of course!
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:07 AM
I like science too, in particularly biology. How I would like to work with a microscope!
And I love astronomy too.
Posted By: foxyw Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:12 AM
I am lucky that although I don't work directly for the chemistry department, I do work closely with members of the department almost every day. I just love chemistry and have always been grateful that I discovered my interest in chemistry in high school, due in part to having a great teacher. I enjoy analyzing scientific data like NMR and IR spectra and I believe that my 20+ years of doing so has helped with my learning to read music and recognize the patterns within. I'm not wild about pure lab work but am more than happy to analyze any compounds that someone else synthesizes smile
Posted By: P I A N O piano Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:13 AM
American Idol was won by that kid with the guitar...

My answer to the OP question is "YES!" I am weird. I am lucky to have two or three wonderful "piano friends" who really understand...and I think my teacher appreciates my intensity about my learning and studying so carefully. I basically think about piano, piano literature, what I'm working on, what to focus on at my next practice time at the piano... anything piano, most of the time..While driving or exercising, I can listen to a particular work I am interested in repeatedly for weeks at a time. Of course, I am attentive to my family but they all know that they do not get a nice dinner on the table during the weekdays as I have to practice! My day job is in a school system (severely involved, special ed) and I do play the Bach Partita No. 2, Sinfonia, twice daily while I play the wooden frog (metronome) to my multiply challenged students, some with autism. It really helps gain their attention before I work with them. My husband is really into rowing and is as intense about his sport as I am about piano...so we can share our passions although we each do not really "get" what the others does! I am lucky in that I live in a community that values music, our high school was recently an award recipient for the best band program in the country... and I live in a college town with one of the best piano programs in the country, too.

Posted By: Chardonnay Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:14 AM
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monitor PCR reactions by, for example, the incorporation of a fluorescently labled nucleotide into ds DNA. There's a gizmo called a 'light cycler' that is used routinely for this kind of thing.

Are you referring to what is called, "real-time PCR"? I need to learn more about that. Does the light cycler monitor/display the incorporation of fluorescence as it happens? Does this mean that running gels on the PCR products is not required? That would certainly save valuable time!
(Or am I mistaken?)
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:14 AM
Originally Posted by ChopinAddict
I like science too, in particularly biology. How I would like to work with a microscope!
And I love astronomy too.


Do you have one? Quite decent microscopes can be had for surprisingly affordable prices these days. No, they won't have Leica lenses, but they can be extremely good. National is a good brand that offers some basic educational models.
Posted By: Orange Soda King Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:15 AM
WHAT THE HECK THREAD HAS THIS BECOME?

I'm going to take some pain medicine because my head hurts reading all of this. smirk
Posted By: foxyw Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:15 AM
Poster: jnod
Subject: Re: Are you weird?...

Great book for chemistry weirdos" "Uncle Tungten" by Oliver Sacks.
________________________

Oh yes, I've heard of that one. We have that book in the chemistry library and I've been meaning to check it out. I listened to Oliver Sacks book called Musicophilia. That was interesting.
Posted By: Canonie Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:16 AM
gooddog has unleashed a monster!

a Good and Happy monster of course.

My first job was in Biochemistry research. Got my name on a paper too laugh These days I am fond of frogs. And propagating plants is always thrilling.
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:17 AM
Originally Posted by Horowitzian
Quite decent microscopes can be had for surprisingly affordable prices these days.

I wish. Our school 'scopes are more than 30 years old and have to be repaired constantly. We can't afford to purchase 32 new microscopes at $250 to $400 a piece.
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:19 AM
Originally Posted by foxyw
I am lucky that although I don't work directly for the chemistry department, I do work closely with members of the department almost every day. I just love chemistry and have always been grateful that I discovered my interest in chemistry in high school, due in part to having a great teacher. I enjoy analyzing scientific data like NMR and IR spectra and I believe that my 20+ years of doing so has helped with my learning to read music and recognize the patterns within. I'm not wild about pure lab work but am more than happy to analyze any compounds that someone else synthesizes smile


That sounds cool! smile I'm strongly considering a career in chemistry. I've always tended towards wanting to be an engineer, but I've discovered that chemistry is a real interest for me. I can thank a great lecture prof and an even better lab instructor (who has a PhD in physical chemistry) for that.
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:21 AM
Originally Posted by gooddog
Originally Posted by Horowitzian
Quite decent microscopes can be had for surprisingly affordable prices these days.

I wish. Our school 'scopes are more than 30 years old and have to be repaired constantly. We can't afford to purchase 32 new microscopes at $250 to $400 a piece.


Dang! That's a shame. My personal microscope is a National, and while I'd love to have something even nicer, it's excellent for what it is.
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:23 AM
Originally Posted by Orange Soda King
WHAT THE HECK THREAD HAS THIS BECOME?

I'm going to take some pain medicine because my head hurts reading all of this. smirk


It's the revenge of the resident nerds for all the years of weighty musical discussions around here. grin

[edit] Apologies for the strung together posts... blush
Posted By: Ludwig van Bilge Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:24 AM
Originally Posted by jnod
Newton is close enough to right for much of modern engineering to work for example.

Would you tell a child that a digital piano works with hammers & strings like an acoustic piano if it easier to explain and easy for the child to understand? Would that be close enough to the truth?

Likewise Newton is not close enough to right for anybody who needs to grasp the fundamentals.

Cheers & Happy New Year
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:25 AM
Originally Posted by Horowitzian
Originally Posted by ChopinAddict
I like science too, in particularly biology. How I would like to work with a microscope!
And I love astronomy too.


Do you have one? Quite decent microscopes can be had for surprisingly affordable prices these days. No, they won't have Leica lenses, but they can be extremely good. National is a good brand that offers some basic educational models.


Not yet, but I intend to buy one... smile
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:25 AM
Originally Posted by Ludwig van Bilge
Originally Posted by jnod
Newton is close enough to right for much of modern engineering to work for example.

Would you tell a child that a digital piano works with hammers & strings like an acoustic piano if it easier to explain and easy for the child to understand? Would that be close enough to the truth?

Likewise Newton is not close enough to right for anybody who needs to grasp the fundamentals.

Cheers & Happy New Year


bah How quickly some forget how important the basics are...
Posted By: foxyw Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:27 AM
That's super Horowitzian! There are many opportunities in the field of chemistry. I took a somewhat non-traditional path after graduate school and worked for a manufacturer of scientific instrumentation for 14 years before moving into academia. The senior chemistry major who told me that quantum mechanics really helped him understand his previous chemistry classes started out as an mechanical engineering major and ended up switching to chemistry after taking general chemistry as a freshman. My degree is in organic chemistry but my PhD thesis was more leaning toward physical organic chemistry (rather than synthesis or methodology) while the jobs that I've had have tended toward analytical chemistry.
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:29 AM
Originally Posted by ChopinAddict
Originally Posted by Horowitzian
Originally Posted by ChopinAddict
I like science too, in particularly biology. How I would like to work with a microscope!
And I love astronomy too.


Do you have one? Quite decent microscopes can be had for surprisingly affordable prices these days. No, they won't have Leica lenses, but they can be extremely good. National is a good brand that offers some basic educational models.


Not yet, but I intend to buy one... smile


Best wishes! May I recommend this book? It's an excellent introduction to both microscopy as well as purchasing a quality instrument.
Posted By: jnod Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:31 AM
Originally Posted by gooddog
To Jnod: I'm drooling. We high school teachers find it hard to keep up with the new stuff because they burden us with all the pedogological nonsense. I'd love to see this.


I can honestly say that I've never had this kind of response to one of my little technology asides! Though seriously, these things move so quickly that it's tough to keep up. Many universities have continuing ed courses that teach some of this stuff I know.
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:32 AM
Originally Posted by foxyw
That's super Horowitzian! There are many opportunities in the field of chemistry. I took a somewhat non-traditional path after graduate school and worked for a manufacturer of scientific instrumentation for 14 years before moving into academia. The senior chemistry major who told me that quantum mechanics really helped him understand his previous chemistry classes started out as an mechanical engineering major and ended up switching to chemistry after taking general chemistry as a freshman. My degree is in organic chemistry but my PhD thesis was more leaning toward physical organic chemistry (rather than synthesis or methodology) while the jobs that I've had have tended toward analytical chemistry.


Thanks, foxy! I've heard quite a bit about chemistry being the hottest research field in recent years. Your story is most interesting. So is that other guy's. I'm an engineering major right now. laugh That could very well change. smile
Posted By: jnod Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:34 AM
Originally Posted by gooddog
...or is it just me?

Another boring party. I’m just not that interested in television, what’s playing in the movies and sports. When I tell people I’m deeply into classical piano, they say, “Oh,” and the conversation doesn’t progress. (I’d love to exchange ideas about composers, interpretation, technique, musicians and repertoire). When I tell them I teach high school science, their eyes go blank and they run in terror. Of course, when I ask them about themselves, they’ll talk on until my eyes cross. I’m pretty comfortable being different but I really do miss having conversations about things that interest me. I'd love to learn something new besides who won American Idol. (Yawn). You too?


Deborah,
Three pages (and counting) of replies in as many hours - maybe you aren't so weird after all?
Posted By: Ludwig van Bilge Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:35 AM
Originally Posted by Horowitzian
How quickly some forget how important the basics are...


Exactly my point. Teaching Newtonian gravity is not teaching the basics. Newton is INCORRECT. This has been known for a century and yet it's news to some science teachers in the U.S. Little wonder we're not the big guns in science anymore.
Posted By: foxyw Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:36 AM
Originally Posted by Horowitzian
Originally Posted by foxyw
That's super Horowitzian! There are many opportunities in the field of chemistry. I took a somewhat non-traditional path after graduate school and worked for a manufacturer of scientific instrumentation for 14 years before moving into academia. The senior chemistry major who told me that quantum mechanics really helped him understand his previous chemistry classes started out as an mechanical engineering major and ended up switching to chemistry after taking general chemistry as a freshman. My degree is in organic chemistry but my PhD thesis was more leaning toward physical organic chemistry (rather than synthesis or methodology) while the jobs that I've had have tended toward analytical chemistry.


Thanks, foxy! I've heard quite a bit about chemistry being the hottest research field in recent years. Your story is most interesting. So is that other guy's. I'm an engineering major right now. laugh That could very well change. smile


smile
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:38 AM
He was not totally incorrect, rather, he wasn't quite right. However, his work is the starting point for what we understand today. Einstein and others came from that tradition. What's so wrong about understanding where we came from?
Posted By: P I A N O piano Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:41 AM
whoa...this thread!
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:43 AM
Originally Posted by Horowitzian
Originally Posted by ChopinAddict
Originally Posted by Horowitzian
Originally Posted by ChopinAddict
I like science too, in particularly biology. How I would like to work with a microscope!
And I love astronomy too.


Do you have one? Quite decent microscopes can be had for surprisingly affordable prices these days. No, they won't have Leica lenses, but they can be extremely good. National is a good brand that offers some basic educational models.


Not yet, but I intend to buy one... smile


Thank you! thumb

Best wishes! May I recommend this book? It's an excellent introduction to both microscopy as well as purchasing a quality instrument.
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:46 AM
Originally Posted by Canonie
gooddog has unleashed a monster!

a Good and Happy monster of course.



There was a similar thread with the same subject on a guitar board some time ago, and it also attracted many responses. So musicians ARE weird, no matter what they play... [Linked Image]
Posted By: -Frycek Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:51 AM
Originally Posted by Chardonnay
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Yeah, It's ALIVE!!! I felt just like Dr Frankenstein when I saw the first root.

Does this mean you're going to teach it to sing "Puttin' on the Ritz"?... laugh


Don't think the caudex knows the steps yet.
As for your question, I'm in diagnosis for the past 30 years.
Section head in a small hospital. Up until a couple of years ago it was two small hospitals.
Posted By: Damon Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 12:56 AM
Originally Posted by gooddog
...or is it just me?

Another boring party. I’m just not that interested in television, what’s playing in the movies and sports. When I tell people I’m deeply into classical piano, they say, “Oh,” and the conversation doesn’t progress. (I’d love to exchange ideas about composers, interpretation, technique, musicians and repertoire). When I tell them I teach high school science, their eyes go blank and they run in terror. Of course, when I ask them about themselves, they’ll talk on until my eyes cross. I’m pretty comfortable being different but I really do miss having conversations about things that interest me. I'd love to learn something new besides who won American Idol. (Yawn). You too?


No, I'd say pretty much everyone here is weird. And Horowitzian just turned into MarkCannon. grin
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 01:01 AM
Originally Posted by Damon
Originally Posted by gooddog
...or is it just me?

Another boring party. I’m just not that interested in television, what’s playing in the movies and sports. When I tell people I’m deeply into classical piano, they say, “Oh,” and the conversation doesn’t progress. (I’d love to exchange ideas about composers, interpretation, technique, musicians and repertoire). When I tell them I teach high school science, their eyes go blank and they run in terror. Of course, when I ask them about themselves, they’ll talk on until my eyes cross. I’m pretty comfortable being different but I really do miss having conversations about things that interest me. I'd love to learn something new besides who won American Idol. (Yawn). You too?


No, I'd say pretty much everyone here is weird. And Horowitzian just turned into MarkCannon. grin


Very much, I'm sorry to say. Though I'm still waaaaay ahead of him in post count! grin
Posted By: Damon Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 01:06 AM
I've been alternating between Piano World forums, Resident Evil 4 (Wii) and practicing Brahms op119 no3 since I woke up. Is that weird?
Posted By: Ludwig van Bilge Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 01:06 AM
Originally Posted by Horowitzian
He was not totally incorrect, rather, he wasn't quite right. However, his work is the starting point for what we understand today. Einstein and others came from that tradition. What's so wrong about understanding where we came from?

It's totally incorrect to say that centrifugal & centripital forces hold the moon in orbit. Anybody who thinks so is living in the 19th century. Ask a physics major.

I'm not talking about calculating the orbit of the moon. I'm talking about even more basic fundamentals like why the moon stays in orbit. Newton was simply wrong about that.
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 01:12 AM
Originally Posted by Damon
I've been alternating between Piano World forums, Resident Evil 4 (Wii) and practicing Brahms op119 no3 since I woke up. Is that weird?


Two out of your three for me: PW forum and Brahms 119 #3. How's it going? I'm finding it hard to get the right gracious but light feel to it. Currently, I'm plodding through the last page. Op. 119 #1 and #2 are solid and sounding pretty good. The Rhapsody looms ahead!
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 01:13 AM
The 'centrifugal' force is a load of rot anyway, that results from incorrect analysis of the situation (i.e. why a book on a car dashboard slides when you take a corner). The centripetal force can be demonstrated by tying a ball to a piece of string and spinning it around. There is a centripetal force exerted by the string.

Of course, orbital mechanics are a good deal more complex than that in light of quantum mechanics and relativity.

Posted By: Damon Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 01:37 AM
Originally Posted by gooddog
Originally Posted by Damon
I've been alternating between Piano World forums, Resident Evil 4 (Wii) and practicing Brahms op119 no3 since I woke up. Is that weird?


Two out of your three for me: PW forum and Brahms 119 #3. How's it going? I'm finding it hard to get the right gracious but light feel to it. Currently, I'm plodding through the last page. Op. 119 #1 and #2 are solid and sounding pretty good. The Rhapsody looms ahead!


I'm working from the 'dolce' to the end. It's starting to shape up but I'm uncertain how I want to handle that last arpeggio. Most recordings I've heard play this as a flourish but I don't want to lose the 6/8 feel. I'm working backwards through this piece so I'm not that far along. I'm going to skip the Rhapsody and do the Intermezzo from Op 10 next. But right now, there's a zombie that's going to get his head blasted off! laugh
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 01:45 AM
I started at the beginning and have the first page and a half up to tempo but it hasn't "matured" yet. I like the flourished ending and IMO it fits in nicely with gentle #1, agitated/romantic #2 and the grand Rhapsody. The piece is often used as an encore so the flourish works for me.
Posted By: LimeFriday Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 01:52 AM
What a great threat - lol....

I am in the weird outsiders camp as well... and I too have a degree in science - Biochemistry and Pharmacology... and am now tossing up between majoring in neuroscience and medical chemistry in the degree I'm doing now.

But I have to say - I do love sport... so I can do the small talk when necessary.
Posted By: Nikalette Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 03:11 AM
Well in France people like to talk/argue/discuss in depth topics....conversation is an art...
Posted By: eweiss Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 03:23 AM
Originally Posted by Nikalette
Well in France people like to talk/argue/discuss in depth topics....conversation is an art...

That's why I thank God for American pragmatism. Cut to the chase I says.
Posted By: beet31425 Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 03:36 AM
How weird we all are!

I fit the description too, if "weird" means "caring deeply about things most people know or care nothing about". I'm a mathematician (or, at least, I have a PhD in mathematics), and I've spent hours and hours thinking about things like... infinite dimensional vector spaces, and topological invariants, and the axioms of set theory. These things are beautiful to think about... and fun!!

So, to go back to Deborah's original post, "Another boring party" rings true for me as well. It can be very difficult to make the mental transition from a Schoenberg string quartet, or a two-page late Brahms gem, or the proof of Tychonoff's theorem, to a social setting filled with people who care about none of those things. It's like being in outer space and suddenly encountering turbulence as you approach Earth.

But balance is important too. I have to say that at the end of many of these "boring" parties stocked with people who literally don't know Beethoven from Chopin, I'm often surprised to find myself happier. It's a strange paradox, and I wonder if anyone else experiences it: the things that I think I get the deepest satisfaction from, the things (in my case mathematics, music, literature) that I think set me apart from the herds of "non-weird" people and give my life richness, these are precisely the things, because they separate and isolate me, that sometimes make me unhappy. A double-edged sword.

Meanwhile, I only hope I run into a high school science teacher at my next social gathering. smile

-Jason
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 03:37 AM
Originally Posted by Nikalette
Well in France people like to talk/argue/discuss in depth topics....conversation is an art...


Oui, oui... smile
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 03:41 AM
Back to the topic of chemistry, here's a great YouTube channel for chemistry nerds:

NurdRage's channel
Posted By: foxyw Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 03:49 AM
Originally Posted by Horowitzian
Back to the topic of chemistry, here's a great YouTube channel for chemistry nerds:

NurdRage's channel


Nice! I'll have to check some of those videos out. I like that the name is Dr. N. Butyl Lithium. That's awesome!

This is my favorite chemistry song and it involves piano too smile

Tom Lehrer - The Element Song
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 04:08 AM
Originally Posted by foxyw
Originally Posted by Horowitzian
Back to the topic of chemistry, here's a great YouTube channel for chemistry nerds:

NurdRage's channel


Nice! I'll have to check some of those videos out. I like that the name is Dr. N. Butyl Lithium. That's awesome!

This is my favorite chemistry song and it involves piano too smile

Tom Lehrer - The Element Song


It's a great channel, so enjoy! smile

How does he say some of those so fast? It's a hoot. Thanks for the link. cool
Posted By: lauralei Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 04:13 AM
That's funny because I do have a degree in chemistry and I really don't like chemistry very much. I wish I'd majored in music like my piano teacher wanted me to.

Laura
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 04:36 AM
Originally Posted by beet31425
It's a strange paradox, and I wonder if anyone else experiences it: the things that I think I get the deepest satisfaction ...that I think set me apart from the herds of "non-weird" people and give my life richness, these are precisely the things, because they separate and isolate me, that sometimes make me unhappy. A double-edged sword.
-Jason

Jason, thank you for pointing out that my glass is half full and not half empty! This thread has assured me that I am not alone and perhaps I will be lucky enough to find some local souls to be friends with. In the meantime, PW satisfies my need for intelligent conversation.
Posted By: Ludwig van Bilge Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 04:42 AM
Originally Posted by lauralei
...I do have a degree in chemistry


How hard would it be to take the carbon out of carbon dioxide so you'd end up with just C and O2? That might get Al Gore off our backs about global warming -- or it would if CO2 was really the villian. Anyhow, somebody told me it could be done with solar energy but I think he may have been blowing smoke.
Posted By: sotto voce Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 04:48 AM
A big revelation for me is just how many of us are involved in science—"hard" science, too, not social sciences like ... erm ... linguistics. smile

Once upon a time I thought I might be, too, but I could barely get through calculus my freshman year. frown

Steven
Posted By: foxyw Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 04:55 AM
Originally Posted by sotto voce
A big revelation for me is just how many of us are involved in science—"hard" science, too, not social sciences like ... erm ... linguistics. smile

Once upon a time I thought I might be, too, but I could barely get through calculus my freshman year. frown

Steven


There are certainly a lot of scientists here. Physics almost did me in but luckily I made it through. I do recall getting a 25 out of 100 on a test. My friend, a math major, got a 15 on the same test. Not a fun semester!

I wish I had taken a few music classes as an undergraduate but luckily now I do have the opportunity to sit in on some of the music classes at the university where I work.
Posted By: EltonRach Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 04:58 AM
What a thread! I guess this topic strikes a chord with many!

Perhaps piano player's brains are indeed wired differently. And the themes brought up here are resonating with the like minded.

Based on the responses, aside from those who are professionally involved with the piano or the piano industry, is there a bias towards the practitioners, students and teachers of the sciences?

Perhaps a statistics expert can already "see" the answer.
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 04:58 AM
Originally Posted by Ludwig van Bilge
Originally Posted by lauralei
...I do have a degree in chemistry


How hard would it be to take the carbon out of carbon dioxide so you'd end up with just C and O2? That might get Al Gore off our backs about global warming -- or it would if CO2 was really the villian. Anyhow, somebody told me it could be done with solar energy but I think he may have been blowing smoke.

Hehehe, probably better to not open that can of worms here. wink
Posted By: WhiteBear Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 04:59 AM
Originally Posted by Ludwig van Bilge
Originally Posted by lauralei
...I do have a degree in chemistry


How hard would it be to take the carbon out of carbon dioxide so you'd end up with just C and O2? That might get Al Gore off our backs about global warming -- or it would if CO2 was really the villian. Anyhow, somebody told me it could be done with solar energy but I think he may have been blowing smoke.


Solar energy can do wonders.
By generating electricity, very mighty reactions can then be driven electrochemically.
Yet simpler, any green plant can generate oxygen out of carbon dioxide and produce carbohydrates.
If one really needs carbon - just thermolyze or dehydrate hydrocarbons; think of those burnt food in the oven (and the smoke) smile

Global warming is quite controversial to say the least (it usually happens with many things when politicians get involved)
Posted By: EltonRach Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 05:00 AM
Oh my goodness - in the time it took for me to draft out my comment - there appeared other posts observing the science bias ! This thread is really striking a chord.
Posted By: Chardonnay Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 05:02 AM
Quote
A big revelation for me is just how many of us are involved in science—"hard" science, too,

There seems to be a connection with engineering as well.. I teach at a small undergraduate engineering school, and I've heard (and have witnessed) that about 50% of the students play a musical instrument (or sing), many at a very high level. Their performances at the end of each semester are amazing. How do they find the time to practice??
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 05:03 AM
Originally Posted by WhiteBear
Originally Posted by Ludwig van Bilge
Originally Posted by lauralei
...I do have a degree in chemistry


How hard would it be to take the carbon out of carbon dioxide so you'd end up with just C and O2? That might get Al Gore off our backs about global warming -- or it would if CO2 was really the villian. Anyhow, somebody told me it could be done with solar energy but I think he may have been blowing smoke.


Solar energy can do wonders.
By generating electricity, very mighty reactions can then be driven electrochemically.
Yet simpler, any green plant can generate oxygen out of carbon dioxide and produce carbohydrates.
If one really needs carbon - just thermolyze or dehydrate hydrocarbons; think of those burnt food in the oven (and the smoke) smile

[...]


...Or if you are really a nerd, add 9 M sulfuric acid to table sugar. Hydrocarbon dehydration at it's best! grin
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 05:04 AM
Originally Posted by Chardonnay
How do they find the time to practice??
Simple survival. If we don't practice, we lose our minds.

There is something analytically satisfying about classical music that must appeal to a scientific mind. Several times I've heard music teachers comment how many of their most advanced adult students are scientists or medical doctors.
Posted By: foxyw Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 05:12 AM
Originally Posted by gooddog
Originally Posted by Chardonnay
How do they find the time to practice??
Simple survival. If we don't practice, we lose our minds.

There is something analytically satisfying about classical music that must appeal to a scientific mind. Several times I've heard music teachers comment how many of their most advanced adult students are scientists or medical doctors.


I definitely agree. I really enjoy learning music theory and seeing it applied in the music. It's like analyzing scientific data. I've only been playing as an adult for about 1.5 years so I'm a relatively new player. I didn't realize just how interesting theory could be before I started playing. I just spent an hour or so working through a chapter in my theory book - all about V7 chords. Learning to recognize intervals and chords and their inversions is interesting to me too.
Posted By: WhiteBear Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 05:22 AM
Originally Posted by Horowitzian
Originally Posted by WhiteBear
Originally Posted by Ludwig van Bilge
Originally Posted by lauralei
...I do have a degree in chemistry


How hard would it be to take the carbon out of carbon dioxide so you'd end up with just C and O2? That might get Al Gore off our backs about global warming -- or it would if CO2 was really the villian. Anyhow, somebody told me it could be done with solar energy but I think he may have been blowing smoke.


Solar energy can do wonders.
By generating electricity, very mighty reactions can then be driven electrochemically.
Yet simpler, any green plant can generate oxygen out of carbon dioxide and produce carbohydrates.
If one really needs carbon - just thermolyze or dehydrate hydrocarbons; think of those burnt food in the oven (and the smoke) smile

[...]


...Or if you are really a nerd, add 9 M sulfuric acid to table sugar. Hydrocarbon dehydration at it's best! grin


At its best is with the concentrated sulfuric acid, which is more than 18 M. grin
Posted By: sotto voce Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 05:24 AM
Originally Posted by gooddog
There is something analytically satisfying about classical music that must appeal to a scientific mind. Several times I've heard music teachers comment how many of their most advanced adult students are scientists or medical doctors.

And yet it correlates strongly with language, too, at least in my own weird mind smile , and not just in obvious ways like being an expressive medium with structures, rules and a lexicon.

I've always felt a deep connection with the notation and graphic elements of music. To me, a score is akin to the printed text of a story; it gives tangible form to something that's otherwise amorphous and ephemeral. I love reading music!

Steven
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 05:35 AM
Originally Posted by WhiteBear
Originally Posted by Horowitzian
Originally Posted by WhiteBear
Originally Posted by Ludwig van Bilge
Originally Posted by lauralei
...I do have a degree in chemistry


How hard would it be to take the carbon out of carbon dioxide so you'd end up with just C and O2? That might get Al Gore off our backs about global warming -- or it would if CO2 was really the villian. Anyhow, somebody told me it could be done with solar energy but I think he may have been blowing smoke.


Solar energy can do wonders.
By generating electricity, very mighty reactions can then be driven electrochemically.
Yet simpler, any green plant can generate oxygen out of carbon dioxide and produce carbohydrates.
If one really needs carbon - just thermolyze or dehydrate hydrocarbons; think of those burnt food in the oven (and the smoke) smile

[...]


...Or if you are really a nerd, add 9 M sulfuric acid to table sugar. Hydrocarbon dehydration at it's best! grin


At its best is with the concentrated sulfuric acid, which is more than 18 M. grin


Indeed! grin But, IIRC, concentrated sulfuric acid is a gelatin at room temp and isn't easy to handle.
Posted By: Canonie Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 05:43 AM
Originally Posted by sotto voce
I've always felt a deep connection with the notation and graphic elements of music. To me, a score is akin to the printed text of a story; it gives tangible form to something that's otherwise amorphous and ephemeral. I love reading music!


Me too! and I love the oversized handwritten scores of experimental composers of the 20th century, used to like to hang out at the Big Scores section of the music school library. Have you heard the quote that "music is like architecture multiplied by time" - forgotten who said it or exact wording.
Posted By: Ferdinand Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 05:43 AM
Anyone notice that weird does not follow the i before e rule?
Weird.
Posted By: Canonie Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 05:47 AM
Originally Posted by Ferdinand
Anyone notice that weird does not follow the i before e rule?
Weird.

YES!! I have always had immense trubble spelling wierd wired weird laugh That's weird! (hoping to remember it more easily from now on)

The recent thread on rythm points to another common difficulty. For years now I have abbreviated rhythm to ritm and sometimes forget that it is not the usual way.
Posted By: foxyw Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 05:48 AM


...Or if you are really a nerd, add 9 M sulfuric acid to table sugar. Hydrocarbon dehydration at it's best! grin

At its best is with the concentrated sulfuric acid, which is more than 18 M. grin

Indeed! grin But, IIRC, concentrated sulfuric acid is a gelatin at room temp and isn't easy to handle.
_________________________________________________________________________

I'm pretty sure it's still a liquid IIRC (had to google IIRC ;)).

Do like you oughta, add acid to water (best said with a Boston accent).
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 05:51 AM
Thanks, one detail that had slipped my mind. smile


Hehehehe, that would sound good with a Boston accent. grin
Posted By: WhiteBear Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 05:53 AM
Indeed! grin But, IIRC, concentrated sulfuric acid is a gelatin at room temp and isn't easy to handle. [/quote]

Not really! The viscosity of a concentrated sulfuric acid is less than that of vegetable or lightest motor oil. So it is not difficult to pour at all. It should definitely be handled responsibly, as many other things.

P.S. On a topic of the thread, watching TV these days is weird to me smirk
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 06:13 AM
Yep, foxy set me straight there. So many details...

Ain't that the truth? sick
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 08:03 AM
Originally Posted by Horowitzian
Originally Posted by Damon
Originally Posted by gooddog
....Another boring party. I’m just not that interested in television, what’s playing in the movies and sports.....

No, I'd say pretty much everyone here is weird. And Horowitzian just turned into MarkCannon. grin

Very much, I'm sorry to say. Though I'm still waaaaay ahead of him in post count! grin

Sheesh, I don't even know what y'all are talking about. smile
Neither the physics, nor even the guy you said.
And I used to think I knew about those subjects...... ha
Posted By: jnod Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 01:37 PM
Originally Posted by sotto voce
A big revelation for me is just how many of us are involved in science—"hard" science, too, not social sciences like ... erm ... linguistics. smile

Once upon a time I thought I might be, too, but I could barely get through calculus my freshman year. frown

Steven


I think there's something to it. One of the great joys of running a lab full of graduate students is that I get to choose who I work with. As often as possible I gravitate towards kids who have a side-interest in music and as a result I have two violinists (one is *really* good), two pianists and a trombonist.

Posted By: Tim Stinnett Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 02:38 PM
This is a somewhat comforting thread. I find myself feeling weird and unable to make friends... and worse, I can't find anyone in real life who shares my passion for the piano. I can't sustain light-weight party conversations. People walk away from me within 5 minutes. I have a PhD in philosophical theology -- that's a real conversation stopper.

People have even walked into my home, seen the Steinway B that fills my tiny living room, and said nothing or inquired nothing about it. (I sweat blood for that piano, going without a car for a number of years to pay for it.) It IS the center of my life. It always amazes me that the piano seems invisible to my acquaintances. I suppose people with obsessions are always a little surprised that others don't share their obsessions. But from my perspective, if someone doesn't "get" the piano, there is something aesthetically deficient about them, and s/he is the weird one. But I feel hopelessly outnumbered!

I don't think I am that strange actually. I've always been a loner. But I'm a genuinely nice and interesting person. I am frustrated and lonely. It doesn't help that I'm shy. I work at home as a medical records editor (another conversation stopper).

I wonder if this loneliness is structural, given the nature of my private life and society. But maybe that is only one component of it, as my experience doesn't seem that different from some of you.

I'm also fascinated with politics, am extremely liberal, and few people ever want to talk serious politics anyway.

At 53, I'm pretty used to being alone. But I don't like it. I just don't know how to find other people who are like myself. Sigh.

Happy new year, everyone!



Posted By: tomasino Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 02:59 PM
Originally Posted by gooddog
I read political thrillers and piano books.


I enjoy politics and detective thrillers. Never heard of a "political thrillers." Name a few.
I'm sure I'd enjoy them.

Tomasino
Posted By: moscheles001 Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 03:18 PM
Originally Posted by ChopinAddict
What really irritates me is when they want me to become like them.... Like when they say I am depressed because of the music I listen to, and that I should listen to modern music, rap etc... How do they know what I like????


You should tell them that recent brain-wave studies have shown that brain activity actually decreases when people listen to rap.

It's easy to be happy when your brain doesn't process much. What's depressing is talking to people like that. One reason I don't go to parties.
Posted By: tomasino Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 03:23 PM
Originally Posted by -Frycek
Just to prove how weird I am, he's a picture of my own little "illegal alien" a caudex of Cycas siamensis "silver" I'm rooting.


Is it a correct assumption, then, that the Cycas siamensis "silver" needs to be hydrated with a gallon of milk as opposed to ordinary water?

Tomasino
Posted By: moscheles001 Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 03:45 PM
Originally Posted by Tweedpipe
Sometimes at parties, people find me a little weird.
However I hope their views change after the publication of my latest book entitled, 'A Truss Full Of Lentils'.


You just made me laugh out loud at work. But that's OK, since everyone at work already thinks I'm weird. My response to them, to quote Claus von Bülow: "You have no idea."
Posted By: deAlmeida Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 05:11 PM
You're suffering because is pretty much more easy to be like everybody else. Listen to the same music, whear the same clothes, have the same kind of marrige, have similar jobs.

They will realize that their lifes had pass and they didn't nothing of what they really want to do.

This is wy I started to play piano. I don't care whether I'll be concertist or not, I'm doing what I always want to do, period. And I heard a lot of BS about it, like "piano is a girls stuff", bla bla blah. Perhaps all you need to do is to have the "I don't care what you think about me" attitude.

Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 05:31 PM
Originally Posted by Tim Stinnett
I'm pretty used to being alone. But I don't like it. I just don't know how to find other people who are like myself. Sigh.
Happy new year, everyone!

Well, then, there's the crux of it. How do we find each other (locally, that is)?

Originally Posted by tomasino
Originally Posted by gooddog
I read political thrillers and piano books.

I enjoy politics and detective thrillers. Never heard of a "political thrillers." Name a few.
I'm sure I'd enjoy them.
Tomasino

Maybe "political thriller" isn't the right term, but I like politics intertwined with spies, assassins, FBI, CIA. (I hate murder mysteries)- try authors like Daniel Silva, Vince Flinn, Alex Berenson, Tom Clancy to name a few. I also like political Sci Fi like Greg Bear's "Moving Mars" and the Mars trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson.
Posted By: Fredil Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 05:58 PM
I'm also "weird" :P

What kind of science do you teach?
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 06:04 PM
I teach 10th grade biology, which I love and 9th grade general science, which I tolerate. I've also taught high school zoology which was a blast.
Posted By: anadyr21 Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 10:09 PM
I guess I'll join the wierd scientist party.

I'm a Biology professor, but I do watch tv and listen to (satellite) radio. I tend to self-isolate at social functions, as I've been doing since I was a child. I've always relied on those more outgoing than myself to make friends, and have lucked out in realizing that my friends are all on the wierd and what some would consider, "dorky/nerdy" side.

Originally Posted by moscheles001
Originally Posted by ChopinAddict
What really irritates me is when they want me to become like them.... Like when they say I am depressed because of the music I listen to, and that I should listen to modern music, rap etc... How do they know what I like????


You should tell them that recent brain-wave studies have shown that brain activity actually decreases when people listen to rap.
It's easy to be happy when your brain doesn't process much. What's depressing is talking to people like that. One reason I don't go to parties.

In defense of rap, not all of it is mindless. There are a few artists that have thought provoking or politically charged lyrics. There are also some who make interesting analogies and references to literary works, beyond a passing knowledge of said works. However, they don't get much mainstream radio play.
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 10:18 PM
Originally Posted by anadyr21


Originally Posted by moscheles001
Originally Posted by ChopinAddict
What really irritates me is when they want me to become like them.... Like when they say I am depressed because of the music I listen to, and that I should listen to modern music, rap etc... How do they know what I like????


You should tell them that recent brain-wave studies have shown that brain activity actually decreases when people listen to rap.
It's easy to be happy when your brain doesn't process much. What's depressing is talking to people like that. One reason I don't go to parties.

In defense of rap, not all of it is mindless. There are a few artists that have thought provoking or politically charged lyrics. There are also some who make interesting analogies and references to literary works, beyond a passing knowledge of said works. However, they don't get much mainstream radio play.


I am a rebel too.... The lyrics can be OK sometimes, but the rhythm that accompanies them (the music?) is disturbing to my weird ears... smile
Posted By: babama Re: Are you weird?... - 01/02/10 10:57 PM
I can enjoy many kinds of music and I appreciate things for what they are. For example I also like dance music when going out.
But when it comes to my real passion in music: electronic ambient music and classical piano music (I know, a weird combo), I have found it's completely pointless to share my interest in this music with friends or family.
I have tried that before and gave up a long time ago. It's simply not the kind of music you can casually share with others, who have never really listened to these types of music. Many people have a more 'casual' taste in music or don't have the patience to learn to listen to it.

My main reason to visit internet forums such as this one, is to talk, read and learn about my favorite music. It's my own private little thing that nobody really knows about. I have accepted this and I'm quite fine with it.
Posted By: beet31425 Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 12:45 AM
Speaking of weird, does anyone else have the experience that the formatting of this thread is strange? With my settings (using Firefox on a Mac), this thread is up to five pages, and the formatting of page five is all off. Pages one through four are fine, but five is displaying the page too widely.

I don't really care, but I think it's a funny coincidence, as if my browser is trying to say "I'm weird too!".

-Jason
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 12:49 AM
Firefox 3.5.6 on a Mac here, no problems.
Posted By: Chardonnay Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 01:03 AM
Quote
Pages one through four are fine, but five is displaying the page too widely.

Yes, I am having that problem too- Safari on a Mac.
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 01:09 AM
I am having the same problem... Sometimes this problem is due to big images that have been inserted in some posts. Have any huge images been inserted?
Posted By: Fredil Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 01:11 AM
Originally Posted by gooddog
I teach 10th grade biology, which I love and 9th grade general science, which I tolerate. I've also taught high school zoology which was a blast.

Nice! I love biology - I'm considering becoming a biology professor (I'm a high school junior).

I'm really terrible at zoology - maybe you could teach me a few things. :P

I'm not having any page issues. fx3.016, I think.
Posted By: currawong Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 01:33 AM
Firefox 3.0.16 on a Mac - superwide view on page 5 (my settings). I looked for the long link or huge picture causing the problem, but there doesn't seem to be one.
Posted By: jotur Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 01:37 AM
I use Internet Explorer - no tomatoes please! - my settings make this page 5, and they're all way wide for me, too. Maybe The Shadow knows smile

Cathy
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 01:48 AM
Maybe the page view turned weird to be in unison with us.... [Linked Image]
Posted By: Frozenicicles Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 02:46 AM
Growing up, 75% of my friends also had piano lessons. You'd be weird if you didn't know piano! I wonder what would have happened if that hadn't been the case - I'd probably have not started at all or quit early on. laugh
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 02:59 AM
Weirdness is in the eye of the beholder...
Posted By: Canonie Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 03:39 AM
my page 5 is wide too! Firefox on a PC. I thought my computer was judging me weird, it appears the sneaky invisible waves flowing throughout the ether all around the world are judging us all wierd...

Just noticed that mine is the top post on page five (my pc anyway) and this post is wider, but what is even spookier... has anyone noticed that wider is an anagram of weird...[Linked Image]
Very Spooky
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 03:51 AM
Hey, science-bio buddies, have you read "Darwin's Radio" by Greg Bear? A really good read and biotech based.
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 03:52 AM
Page 6 looks normal again...
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 04:10 AM
Originally Posted by beet31425
I fit the description too, if "weird" means "caring deeply about things most people know or care nothing about"...and I've spent hours and hours thinking about things like... infinite dimensional vector spaces, and topological invariants, and the axioms of set theory. These things are beautiful to think about... and fun!!
...It can be very difficult to make the mental transition from a Schoenberg string quartet, or a two-page late Brahms gem, or the proof of Tychonoff's theorem, to a social setting filled with people who care about none of those things. It's like being in outer space and suddenly encountering turbulence as you approach Earth.
-Jason


Jason, I've been thinking about what you said all day. I know just what you mean. I become totally absorbed in a piece of music and have to wrench myself out of my euphoria to do my job or communicate with people untouched by the elation I am feeling. I sometimes wish I could plug people I care about directly into my brain so they could experience what I am feeling. Playing classical piano is better than sex, better than chocolate; it is like touching heaven. It's nice to know I'm not the only one who feels this way.
Posted By: beet31425 Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 04:46 AM
Well, I've traced the weird page formatting to its source. The cause is foxyw's post #1338953, from 01/01/10 09:48 PM (PST). For those of us who use the default setting of 30 posts per page, this post falls on page 5. But if you change that setting, then whatever page this post lands on gets corrupted.

I'm not sure why it has that effect. foxyw's post does use quotes strangely; it starts with an empty block "[quot=foxyw][/quot]", which doesn't seem to render quite right, then has a couple extra "[/quot]" closers, without corresponding openers. (foxyw's actual post uses "quote" instead of "quot", but I don't want a quote block to appear in my post!) I'm not sure why this should cause problems, but it does.

Not trying to pick on you, foxyw. Everyone carry on as before. Just trying to resolve the mystery of the this weird thread... smile

-Jason
Posted By: Ferdinand Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 06:04 AM
Originally Posted by Canonie
my page 5 is wide too! Firefox on a PC. I thought my computer was judging me weird, it appears the sneaky invisible waves flowing throughout the ether all around the world are judging us all wierd...

Just noticed that mine is the top post on page five (my pc anyway) and this post is wider, but what is even spookier... has anyone noticed that wider is an anagram of weird...[Linked Image]
Very Spooky

To notice such things you have to be either weird or wired a bit differently.
Posted By: beet31425 Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 06:23 AM
Originally Posted by Canonie
but what is even spookier... has anyone noticed that wider is an anagram of weird...

Originally Posted by Ferdinand
To notice such things you have to be either weird or wired a bit differently.


My hats off to both of you, my anagramical co-posters. Here's the best I can add, and it's not very good:

"Well, my painter friend, we finally convinced those boring people to leave our party. We got rid of them."

"We rid?... I drew!"

-Jason
Posted By: Canonie Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 06:31 AM
I jump off d' wier in defeat!

Edited to say: I jump off d' weir in utter defeat.
Posted By: wr Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 09:54 AM
Reading this thread, I realized I must be in some subset of the weirder than weird, because unlike so many here, I never had a career in the sciences. Science, no matter what the branch or how interesting it might be, always seemed to get to a point where you needed math skills to get really good at it, and math was always my weakest area in those aptitude and college entrance exams I took. So I never really considered that sort of career - maybe I should have.

So, when did you really start understanding you were a bit "unusual". Because I was so absorbed with playing piano and music in general, I must have seemed totally strange to my family and community by the time I was ten or so, but playing piano seemed like such a natural thing to do for me that I didn't really start getting a clue how odd being obsessed with it might seem to others until I was an adult. And truthfully, it wasn't just the piano playing that set me apart - I also was a bookworm at an early age, and the other kids called me the walking encyclopedia. And I didn't like sports all that much. And I wore thick glasses. And my family belonged to the "wrong" church. Etc. Etc. Etc. Yes, I was (and still am) weird, in many ways.


Posted By: Canonie Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 10:11 AM
yes wr, you do seem to be a bit wr-d too, though not a scientist. I was always the maths type at school (it was my strongest suit), and very interested in science. It took a long time to realise that I could only be happy in artistic-creative endeavors. But I still really like scientific thought. I think I feel a poem coming on... smile

Originally Posted by gooddog
..Another boring party. I’m just not that interested in television, what’s playing in the movies and sports. When I tell people I’m deeply into classical piano, they say, “Oh,” and the conversation doesn’t progress. (I’d love to exchange ideas about composers, interpretation, technique, musicians and repertoire). When I tell them I teach high school science, their eyes go blank and they run in terror. Of course, when I ask them about themselves, they’ll talk on until my eyes cross. I’m pretty comfortable being different but I really do miss having conversations about things that interest me. I'd love to learn something new besides who won American Idol. (Yawn). You too?


What the pianist acrostically said:
Each party I go to in dread!
I had much rather go
Rehearse Etude Tableaux and
Date virtual acquaintance instead.

Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 10:19 AM
Originally Posted by wr
I also was a bookworm at an early age, and the other kids called me the walking encyclopedia. And I didn't like sports all that much. Yes, I was (and still am) weird, in many ways.


Me too.... They said one saw the rings under my eyes before seeing me and laughed at me, and they bullied me too, although not physically. Once a girl wanted to photocopy ALL my work, and when I gave it to her she asked the others if they wanted it too and they made several copies.... I mean, wasn't it my copyright somehow??? I hadn't said everybody could have it!
And after using me, nobody knew me any more! I was excluded from parties etc. although it is OK, as I hate parties...
[Linked Image]
Posted By: Nikolas Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 11:06 AM
I'm proud to be weird. Probably one of the very few living off composition (not music) in Greece to begin with. I'm 100% legal and don't own photocopies (except in very rare cases or for a matter of studying and not wanting to 'polute' my original scores), as well as very few mp3s, created by me. All software is legally bought. You can't begin to imagine how weird this is in Greece! They think I'm insane! laugh

Fell in love with my wife in first sight and never looked back, never had an urge for anyone else or doubts whatsoever! Got a PhD in composition (which apparently seems worthless in Greece as well)... :-/

In parties I play songs which lead the fellow men around me to 'yawn' and ask for something else in a matter of minutes!

But I'm dead proud of being weird, if this is what I am!
Posted By: foxyw Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 02:56 PM
Originally Posted by beet31425
Well, I've traced the weird page formatting to its source. The cause is foxyw's post #1338953, from 01/01/10 09:48 PM (PST). For those of us who use the default setting of 30 posts per page, this post falls on page 5. But if you change that setting, then whatever page this post lands on gets corrupted.

I'm not sure why it has that effect. foxyw's post does use quotes strangely; it starts with an empty block "[quot=foxyw][/quot]", which doesn't seem to render quite right, then has a couple extra "[/quot]" closers, without corresponding openers. (foxyw's actual post uses "quote" instead of "quot", but I don't want a quote block to appear in my post!) I'm not sure why this should cause problems, but it does.

Not trying to pick on you, foxyw. Everyone carry on as before. Just trying to resolve the mystery of the this weird thread... smile

-Jason


Oh no! Sorry everyone!!! I used the quickquote option originally to create that post and it had so many quotes (quotations?) embedded in quotes it looked really weird. I edited the post and manually deleted some of the text in the field but being a chemist with no html skills (although I am planning to take a web site design class this spring) I completely messed things up. Now I feel weird.
Posted By: John Citron Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 05:37 PM
You know what this means?

We need more piano parties! laugh

The point that seems to be driving this thread is that we're all weird in the same way. We all share a common interest not just in music, but also in some small way the sciences. I am interested in meterology, among many things. Recently I've been going severe storm chasing. Now this is a conversation starter and stopper at many parties, but the usual line is "Is this like Twister?", which I have to answer, yes but not really.

Growing up I was never involved in sports in a big way. My parents are artists and have little interest in sports so there was no push in that direction. The other thing too is I was extremely un-coordinated, and would usually get hurt, or worse run too slow and end up losing the game. This last aspect put me on the outs with most of my peers in school. So instead I found it more interesting poking around ant hills and watching spiders, birds, or other crawly things. At one point during high school I considered a career in zoology or biology, but that never happened.

Anyway another thing I've noticed, and perhaps this is also musically related. I think that the study of classical music has a way of opening up the mind. We as a group tend to be critical thinkers, technical thinkers, and open to learning and doing. Perhaps if classical music and music lessons were made more important in school systems there would be a whole new generation, or generations of people more interested in other things besides American Idol and sports.

This was also one of my reasons to go back to school for what I always wanted. I am tired of workuing around people with little or no interest in anything I had to talk about. I mentioned this to my piano teacher, and she said the same thing. At least at the university I can talk about music, science, politics, and art without being ignored or patronized.

John

Posted By: beet31425 Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 05:43 PM
Originally Posted by foxyw
Oh no! Sorry everyone!!!... I completely messed things up. Now I feel weird.

It's not your fault, foxyw, but the site software's, which should be able to render misplaced tags without freaking out.

Canonie: I bow before the master. What excellence I really discern.


-Jason
Posted By: AdultBeginner Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 05:43 PM
Re: the original post - what's wrong with just learning from other people about what *they* do? It's interesting, though you don't get to talk about yourself very much, because there is always something to learn about any career.

If someone didn't work, I would have a hard time making conversation. But anyone who has a job can hold my interest for a good long while.

I'm an attorney specializing in one specific area of law. Although I love my work and I think it's fascinating, I don't assume other people are or should be interested in my work, and I rarely talk about it except with my husband.
Posted By: Pogorelich. Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 06:02 PM
And this is why I only hang out with musicians.. Not that I intended it to be that way, but when you go to a music school it's inevitable. Only pianists and string players though (cellists especially). =P
Posted By: Kreisler Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 07:07 PM
BTW, I fixed the odd display error on page 5...happy reading!
Posted By: Kreisler Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 07:10 PM
By the way, the culprit was the long horizontal line in one of the posts.

When you put a bunch of underline characters together, the computer treats it as one word and will not split it up, so if you go crazy and use like 100 underlines in a row, it widens the screen for everyone.

If you want to test something you've written out, just use the "Preview Reply" button (next to the submit button) - your post will appear at the bottom of the screen looking like it will when you submit it (you'll have to scroll down to see it.)
Posted By: foxyw Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 07:29 PM
I definitely won't do that again!

Just back from a lovely cross country ski outing in the fresh snow. Now it's time for some piano practice smile
Posted By: Bart Kinlein Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 07:31 PM
People think I'm weird because I especially like July 1 and December 1. Anybody else feel that way, and know why? (Yes, I'm an engineer and proud that I was a geek in school!)
Posted By: beet31425 Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 07:33 PM
Originally Posted by Kreisler
By the way, the culprit was the long horizontal line in one of the posts.

When you put a bunch of underline characters together, the computer treats it as one word and will not split it up, so if you go crazy and use like 100 underlines in a row, it widens the screen for everyone.


I don't think it had anything to do with a long line. I hypothesized above that the culprit seemed to be a strange use of quote tags, and this seems to be correct: The posting is indeed now uncorrupted, and the quote tags in the post have all been removed. Am I missing something?

-Jason
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 07:50 PM
In high school, I was a wallflower. I never went on a single date. I just didn't have a lot in common with the other kids. I liked to read. Loved classical music and was a bit of a nerd. During free periods I got special permission to work on my music in one of the practice rooms. It was lonely, but I liked myself.
Posted By: Ina Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 07:54 PM
I'm weird. This forum helped me in my weirdness, I believe... I'm not alone practicing piano after the age 40 :))). In the work they just think that my "hobby" is consuming my time, since I don't have financial income from doing my "piano thing". But, in reality, it spares a lot of tablets: it is a natural antidepressant for me and antistressor after the work. I also sing in a choir and there I meet people that are professionaly involved with music, so I can share my passion without being looked odd.
I don't watch TV, I don't recall any commercial, ...
Posted By: Tweedpipe Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 08:45 PM
Deborah Gooddog,
Now look what you’ve started........ wink
For those who may like to unwind (or wind-up) with a weird crossword, I’ve just posted one on the Games forum. Enjoy!
Posted By: Canonie Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 09:19 PM
Withoutyou, effort is readily discarded [Linked Image]

'31425' - it's not the first movement of any beethoven sonata (?) Should I check other movements?
Posted By: keydancer Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 10:17 PM
For Christmas, all the gifts I asked Santa for were music related =D

I have a few friends who want to become piano teachers & concert pianists when the grow up. (3 friends, actually). So I have someone to talk to about music, luckily. =]

I don't mind if other people think I'm weird... it's just being me. I was discussing this with friends one day, and we came to the conclusion that normal people are weird... because everyone is different. laugh
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 10:20 PM
Originally Posted by gooddog
In high school, I was a wallflower. I never went on a single date. I just didn't have a lot in common with the other kids. I liked to read. Loved classical music and was a bit of a nerd. During free periods I got special permission to work on my music in one of the practice rooms. It was lonely, but I liked myself.


Me too, but I like wallflowers more than artificial flowers in artificial gardens... Is this weird?
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 10:21 PM
At any rate, we are all proud to be weird....
So... Viva los wackos!!!
Posted By: Bart Kinlein Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 10:32 PM
So why do I like July 1 and Dec 1? When I reset the date on my wristwatch those days, I know I don't have to do it again for 92 days! Extra time to practice the piano. yippie
Posted By: bachchica Re: Are you weird?... - 01/03/10 10:53 PM
This thread is so great not only because we can all relate to it but also because I learned so many fascinating things about you guys! I too belong to the weird scientist/musician club; I am double-majoring in piano performance and microbiology.

I tend to avoid small talk in social situations (tricky as a bartender), because I don't have the same interests, therefore references, as most people. Half the time I have no idea what they're talking about, and the other half of the time they don't know what I'm talking about. C'est la vie!
Posted By: beet31425 Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 12:08 AM
Originally Posted by Canonie
Withoutyou, effort is readily discarded [Linked Image]

'31425' - it's not the first movement of any beethoven sonata (?) Should I check other movements?


"withoutyou"... heh....

You give me too much cleverness credit on my moniker. (Although my computer password used to be 30e31ab32cm, the key signatures of the last three Beethoven sonatas.)

No, the 31425 is the old security key (no longer used) in the mathematics department when I was a grad student. The corresponding mnemonic was "pi and a quarter". smile

-Jason
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 12:30 AM
[Linked Image]

I wish I could find this T-shirt...
Or maybe one with this image:
[Linked Image]

Or this:
[Linked Image]
Posted By: Kreisler Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 01:04 AM
31425 is the first movement of Beethoven's Op. 110 sonata.

And on the computer password subject, when I was in college, I used kdkdkdkkdkkdk (a rhythm and sticking we used in drumline in high school.)

Originally Posted by beet31425
Originally Posted by Canonie
Withoutyou, effort is readily discarded [Linked Image]

'31425' - it's not the first movement of any beethoven sonata (?) Should I check other movements?


"withoutyou"... heh....

You give me too much cleverness credit on my moniker. (Although my computer password used to be 30e31ab32cm, the key signatures of the last three Beethoven sonatas.)

No, the 31425 is the old security key (no longer used) in the mathematics department when I was a grad student. The corresponding mnemonic was "pi and a quarter". smile

-Jason
Posted By: Canonie Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 01:28 AM
Made my day smile I knew it would have to be there somewhere, but in my quick skim of the beethoven index i read 3111425, forgetting to apply redundancy rule. My research was flawed; clearly I'll never make a good scientist. I applaud the master Kreisler. [Linked Image]

Beet, your key sig computer password is Very good. Pi is making me hungry now...

Originally Posted by Kreisler
31425 is the first movement of Beethoven's Op. 110 sonata.

And on the computer password subject, when I was in college, I used kdkdkdkkdkkdk (a rhythm and sticking we used in drumline in high school.)

Originally Posted by beet31425
Originally Posted by Canonie
Withoutyou, effort is readily discarded [Linked Image]

'31425' - it's not the first movement of any beethoven sonata (?) Should I check other movements?


"withoutyou"... heh....

You give me too much cleverness credit on my moniker. (Although my computer password used to be 30e31ab32cm, the key signatures of the last three Beethoven sonatas.)

No, the 31425 is the old security key (no longer used) in the mathematics department when I was a grad student. The corresponding mnemonic was "pi and a quarter". smile

-Jason
Posted By: P I A N O piano Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 04:22 AM
I know this seems random, but how many of you remember Mystery Science Theater 3000? If you play piano AND loved watching this then you are really weird! smile
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 04:50 AM
Originally Posted by Kreisler
31425 is the first movement of Beethoven's Op. 110 sonata......

Hey, it is!
I was wondering also what that might be.
Even if it wasn't really anything. smile
I realized it was similar to pi, but didn't think of "pi and a quarter."

BTW......as you might know, it's also sort of the beginning of the fugue, provided you're willing to "assume" the initial 3 as a gimme, or else stick it at the end. smile
And it's most definitely the inversion of the opening of the 2nd fugue.
Posted By: beet31425 Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 05:06 AM
Originally Posted by Kreisler
31425 is the first movement of Beethoven's Op. 110 sonata.

Originally Posted by MarkCannon
as you might know, it's also sort of the beginning of the fugue...


Wow. I'm kind of shocked. Op. 110 isn't just any sonata to me; it's *the* Beethoven sonata that dominated months of my high school life; it has certain moments (first movement trills in the left hand; third movement sequence of G major chords) that felt like personal messages from Beethoven to me. (Presumptuous, OK, but I was young! smile ) Its fugue theme permeated my subconscious and influenced that semester's compositions.

There are strange coincidences which some people (Jung?) would say are not coincidences. Why was I drawn to that sequence of numbers years later in grad school? Why did I remember them, long after the locks to the doors they opened were torn off? Why did I choose, for my Piano World moniker, to combine them with-- of all things-- beet?

The world, and the mind, is mysterious. And I'm generally a skeptic! Thanks guys for the discovery.

-Jason

Posted By: argerichfan Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 05:32 AM
Originally Posted by beet31425

Wow. I'm kind of shocked. Op. 110 isn't just any sonata to me; it's *the* Beethoven sonata that dominated months of my high school life...

Not just any sonata for me. The Op. 110 was the first late Beethoven sonata I recall hearing... I must have been around 14 or so. I still remember following the score, and it was Wilhelm Backhaus playing. When the first fugue began, I quite vividly remember thinking... 'what is going on here?' Rest is history.

So I am not the only one who made their late Beethoven debut with the Op. 110? The Missa Solemnis came years later -long after the rest of the Beethoven sonatas, symphonies, concertos and a few string quartets- but methinks I'm still not quite ready for it. There is something very enigmatic about this mass setting, and acquaintance with the neighboring 9th symphony is no ticket to ride. The Missa stands alone, I think it Beethoven's most challenging work, and to those who think they have it in stride... beware false prophets.
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 05:35 AM
Originally Posted by beet31425
Originally Posted by Kreisler
31425 is the first movement of Beethoven's Op. 110 sonata.

Originally Posted by MarkCannon
as you might know, it's also sort of the beginning of the fugue...

Wow. I'm kind of shocked. Op. 110 isn't just any sonata to me; it's *the* Beethoven sonata that dominated months of my high school life; it has certain moments....that felt like personal messages from Beethoven to me.....Its fugue theme permeated my subconscious and influenced that semester's compositions.....
The world, and the mind, is mysterious. And I'm generally a skeptic! Thanks guys for the discovery.....

"Wow" is right!
I was figuring this was just a remarkable coincidence, notwithstanding your having "Beethoven" in your chosen user name. But it looks like you're figuring there might have been something unconscious or subliminal going on -- and if you think so, then I do too.
BTW this is a shrink speaking. smile

P.S. Numbers often have a musical connotation or association to me, even when I'm not aware of it. (For example, I sometimes sort of "sing" phone numbers to myself, if they're singable, which most are, and often without realizing it.) Maybe to some extent that's the case for you also, and if so -- considering the significance of Op. 110 for you, it's probably likely that at some level, "31425" had a special ring for you.
Posted By: Ferdinand Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 05:37 AM
Originally Posted by foxyw

This is my favorite chemistry song and it involves piano too smile

Tom Lehrer - The Element Song


I am not a scientist, but do I qualify to be among the science-leaning group if I majored in mathematics? At any rate I am proud to say I earned my degree at the university where Tom Lehrer was a professor.
You all did know he is a mathematician, right?
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 05:41 AM
Originally Posted by Ferdinand
I am not a scientist, but do I qualify to be among the science-leaning group if I majored in mathematics? At any rate I am proud to say I earned my degree at the university where Tom Lehrer was a professor.
You all did know he is a mathematician, right?

I think even those of us who knew tend to forget. smile

BTW -- since you're in CA, I imagine you mean Santa Cruz? I understand that was a cool place. And of course probably still is. smile
A girl I was going with (sort of) in college left and transferred to Santa Cruz. I took it personally. ha
Posted By: jazzyprof Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 05:47 AM
Originally Posted by beet31425

Wow. I'm kind of shocked. Op. 110 isn't just any sonata to me; it's *the* Beethoven sonata that dominated months of my high school life; it has certain moments (first movement trills in the left hand; third movement sequence of G major chords) that felt like personal messages from Beethoven to me.

Wow, maybe you will consider submitting it for the LvB 240th Birthday SonataFest in December! smile
Posted By: beet31425 Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 05:53 AM
Originally Posted by jazzyprof
Originally Posted by beet31425

Wow. I'm kind of shocked. Op. 110 isn't just any sonata to me; it's *the* Beethoven sonata that dominated months of my high school life; it has certain moments (first movement trills in the left hand; third movement sequence of G major chords) that felt like personal messages from Beethoven to me.

Wow, maybe you will consider submitting it for the LvB 240th Birthday SonataFest in December! smile


Thanks for the push, and I'm glad you're organizing this thing. But (a) I worked it up 20 years ago; and (b) as I posted on a random personal goals thread a few months back, I've got some muscle healing and technique rehabilitation to go through. It's going to be a long process. I aim to post that sonata here some day, but probably not in 2010. smile

-Jason
Posted By: jazzyprof Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 06:02 AM
Jason, best wishes for rapid healing of those muscles!
Posted By: 1RC Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 06:03 AM
Hahah, a forum full of the weird kids laugh

Yeah I'm pretty sure I was considered an oddball as well, went through a lonely sort of period... But I've gotten decent at being able to relate to a wide spectrum of people, finding a commonality somewhere, somehow. It may not be the same topic, but most people have something they love as much as we love music. Or some interesting thing going on in their lives. Other times it can be surprising what interesting turns a conversation that starts on something as prosaic as grocery shopping can take.

Originally Posted by bachchica
Half the time I have no idea what they're talking about, and the other half of the time they don't know what I'm talking about. C'est la vie!


...Other times I get this too, lol! Especially with TV (a common theme here), I usually try and steer the topic elsewhere but some people watch A LOT of TV.
Posted By: Canonie Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 06:11 AM
Jason, best wishes for your technique rehab from me too. No doubt you'll need lots of patience

I have to ask, are you telling us that the "beet" in your name never refered to beethoven? I always assumed it did, but PW names (and pics) can be misleading....

Edit: speaking of numbers, it looks like I am about to tip into the 500 club [Linked Image]
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 06:14 AM
Originally Posted by Canonie
Jason....I have to ask, are you telling us that the "beet" in your name never refered to beethoven? I always assumed it did...

I'm still assuming it does. I figured he meant just that the "31425" didn't. (Or rather that he didn't realize it did!)
Posted By: beet31425 Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 06:29 AM
Originally Posted by MarkCannon
Originally Posted by Canonie
Jason....I have to ask, are you telling us that the "beet" in your name never refered to beethoven? I always assumed it did...

I'm still assuming it does. I figured he meant just that the "31425" didn't. (Or rather that he didn't realize it did!)


Sorry for the confusion: Yes, "beet" was an intentional reference to Mr. Van Beethoven; it's just the "31425" that had no musical meaning. So I thought....
Posted By: beet31425 Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 07:39 AM
Originally Posted by argerichfan
The Missa Solemnis came years later- long after the rest of the Beethoven sonatas, symphonies, concertos and a few string quartets- but methinks I'm still not quite ready for it. There is something very enigmatic about this mass setting... The Missa stands alone, I think it Beethoven's most challenging work


I agree with this completely. By the time I was done with high school, I was pretty familiar with the late sonatas and late string quartets. (I have a very clear memory of visiting colleges with the Große Fugue whirling through my head.) But I didn't begin to crack the Missa for another 10 years, and even now it's... big and complicated and sort of hard to not get lost in. Imagine you were the size of an ant, and you were wandering over the score, trying to make sense of these enormous black smudges and lines. Revelation hovering just out of scope. It's a little like that for me.

-Jason
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 07:43 AM
Now I have something to work for, a new goal, albeit not so close right now I guess...
Posted By: lauralei Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 01:45 PM
Originally Posted by Ferdinand
Originally Posted by foxyw

This is my favorite chemistry song and it involves piano too smile

Tom Lehrer - The Element Song


I am not a scientist, but do I qualify to be among the science-leaning group if I majored in mathematics? At any rate I am proud to say I earned my degree at the university where Tom Lehrer was a professor.
You all did know he is a mathematician, right?


I grew up in the area and I have a memory of someone coming to our high school to sing Existential Blues around 1979. Could it have possibly been Tom Lehrer himself?

Laura
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 02:58 PM
Originally Posted by Ferdinand
I am not a scientist, but do I qualify to be among the science-leaning group if I majored in mathematics?

Being weird is not exclusive to science nerds. All weirdos are welcome!
Posted By: moscheles001 Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 03:04 PM
Originally Posted by anadyr21
In defense of rap, not all of it is mindless. There are a few artists that have thought provoking or politically charged lyrics. There are also some who make interesting analogies and references to literary works, beyond a passing knowledge of said works. However, they don't get much mainstream radio play.


The problem with rap is not simply the lyrics, although in many cases they are hideous. Most popular lyrics are pretty bad, and are just lucky enough to have good music to distract us from their poor quality. I don't like rap because of the quality of the music itself. I disagree with people who say rap isn't music. It is music, but it isn't good music.
Posted By: moscheles001 Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 03:14 PM
Originally Posted by P I A N O piano
I know this seems random, but how many of you remember Mystery Science Theater 3000? If you play piano AND loved watching this then you are really weird! smile


I have all the episodes on VHS, and will transfer them to DVD some day. We invited the cast to our wedding, and they actually RSVP'd. Bridget Jones called my wife (then fiance) to say how cool it was to be invited. We danced to the theme song (from the Joel years) at the reception.

Again, to quote Herr von Bulow, "You have no idea."
Posted By: John Citron Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 04:12 PM
Originally Posted by MarkCannon
Originally Posted by beet31425
Originally Posted by Kreisler
31425 is the first movement of Beethoven's Op. 110 sonata.

Originally Posted by MarkCannon
as you might know, it's also sort of the beginning of the fugue...

Wow. I'm kind of shocked. Op. 110 isn't just any sonata to me; it's *the* Beethoven sonata that dominated months of my high school life; it has certain moments....that felt like personal messages from Beethoven to me.....Its fugue theme permeated my subconscious and influenced that semester's compositions.....
The world, and the mind, is mysterious. And I'm generally a skeptic! Thanks guys for the discovery.....

"Wow" is right!
I was figuring this was just a remarkable coincidence, notwithstanding your having "Beethoven" in your chosen user name. But it looks like you're figuring there might have been something unconscious or subliminal going on -- and if you think so, then I do too.
BTW this is a shrink speaking. smile

P.S. Numbers often have a musical connotation or association to me, even when I'm not aware of it. (For example, I sometimes sort of "sing" phone numbers to myself, if they're singable, which most are, and often without realizing it.) Maybe to some extent that's the case for you also, and if so -- considering the significance of Op. 110 for you, it's probably likely that at some level, "31425" had a special ring for you.


I thought I was the only one that did that. smile My old work phone number used to sound like the opening to Beethoven's Violin Concerto.

I used to also type in part numbers in rhythm when I was doing data entry. They have a certain feeling to them particularly if they are in a six digit sequence.

I'm definitely one of the weird group too. I used to watch Weird Science and then much later Nova and Beyond 2000.

John
Posted By: Piano Again Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 04:45 PM
Maybe I missed something, but could someone please explain why "31425" = Op. 110?

Sign me -- "not a numbers person."
Posted By: Frozenicicles Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 04:58 PM
Originally Posted by Piano Again
Maybe I missed something, but could someone please explain why "31425" = Op. 110?

Sign me -- "not a numbers person."

I think they're intervals of the opening of the first movement. Although I think it should be 3111425. laugh
Posted By: beet31425 Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 04:58 PM
Originally Posted by Piano Again
Maybe I missed something, but could someone please explain why "31425" = Op. 110?

Sign me -- "not a numbers person."


Op. 110 is in Ab major. Imagine your hand in Ab position, so your thumb corresponds to Ab; second finger to Bb; 3 to C; 4 to Db; 5 to Eb.

The opening melody of the first movement now reads: 3 1 1 1 4 2 5...

-Jason
Posted By: Piano Again Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 05:04 PM
Ah, thank you. That's been bothering me for days.
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 05:39 PM
I've been meaning to as you — speaking of weird — what is that critter in your avatar?
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 05:41 PM
Originally Posted by John Citron
I thought I was the only one that did that. smile My old work phone number used to sound like the opening to Beethoven's Violin Concerto......

Let's see......something like 565-4321? smile
(And if it was also "ext. 7," you win the Superfecta.) ha

I love it!!!
Posted By: Piano Again Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 05:54 PM
Originally Posted by Horowitzian
I've been meaning to as you — speaking of weird — what is that critter in your avatar?


I believe it's a kitten.

I found the picture in the list of possible avatars, so I don't know where it came from.
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 05:56 PM
Ah, I see. Well it sure looks like a rodent of some kind at first glance!
Posted By: Piano Again Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 07:30 PM
Originally Posted by Horowitzian
Ah, I see. Well it sure looks like a rodent of some kind at first glance!


Very small kittens do look kind of like rodents. Like these, for example:

http://charmedbirmans.com/images/gallery/img1.jpg
Posted By: Horowitzian Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 08:48 PM
I guess they do! smile
Posted By: Canonie Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 09:14 PM
Quote
What the pianist acrostically said:
Each party I go to in dread!
I had much rather go
Rehearse Etude Tableaux and
Date virtual acquaintance instead.


For those who didn't get this the first time around, it's an acrostic which means (in this case) you read the first letter of each line to make a word vertically. I wanted to post it again because it took me hours (ok minutes smile ) to think up, and I don't want the effort to be wasted. And because I am weird - today I am wearing a Tshirt with a pic of impossible scrabble letters on it laugh

I would like to dedicate this verse to gooddog who has a talent for inspiring some good threads.

Edit: when I was young I remembered all phone numbers by their interval pattern, and even had a theory that the nicest ppl had the most musical phone numbers. Then I moved interstate and the numbers weren't as good. I'm sure this isn't weird!
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 09:19 PM
Originally Posted by Canonie
.....For those who didn't get this the first time around, it's an acrostic which means (in this case) you read the first letter of each line to make a word vertically.....

Thanks for saying -- I'm a big fan of acrostics but still didn't get it!

Quote
....when I was young I remembered all phone numbers by their interval pattern...

Me too, and I can still remember those numbers.
BTW.....it almost always gets a laugh if you show someone how they can sing their number. ha
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 10:06 PM
Wow! I'm honored! I didn't notice the acrostic either. I just thought it was a cool poem. Thank you.!
Posted By: beet31425 Re: Are you weird?... - 01/04/10 10:10 PM
Also way cool was this exchange between Canonie and Ferdinand:

Originally Posted by Ferdinand
Originally Posted by Canonie
Just noticed that mine is the top post on page five (my pc anyway) and this post is wider, but what is even spookier... has anyone noticed that wider is an anagram of weird...[Linked Image]
Very Spooky

To notice such things you have to be either weird or wired a bit differently.


Not only is wider an anagram of weird, but so is wired! O the cleverness!... smile

-Jason
Posted By: Canonie Re: Are you weird?... - 01/05/10 01:12 AM
On behalf of Ferdinand and myself, thank you [Linked Image] (have been waiting a long time for chance to use that smiley. I hope to use it again when, one day in the distant future, I post a recording - now That is True Cleverness [Linked Image] )

And gooddog, you are welcome!
Posted By: beet31425 Re: Are you weird?... - 01/05/10 01:16 AM
Originally Posted by Canonie
On behalf of Ferdinand and myself, thank you [Linked Image] (have been waiting a long time for chance to use that smiley. I hope to use it again when, one day in the distant future, I post a recording - now That is True Cleverness [Linked Image] )

And gooddog, you are welcome!


Um... are you... eating the flowers?

-Jason
Posted By: Canonie Re: Are you weird?... - 01/05/10 01:24 AM
you are right! it does look like that, oh dear. I was hoping it looked more like joyful acceptance of well earned applause, blowing kisses and being showered with roses. The kind of thing that happens on most weekends to we fine musicians... you know...

Actually rose petals can be delicious in a cool summer drink with fresh (not Meyer) lemon juice, a tiny bit of rind and sugar in iced water. But my lemon tree and my red rose have only leaves just now.
Posted By: Damon Re: Are you weird?... - 01/05/10 01:33 AM
Originally Posted by MarkCannon


Quote
....when I was young I remembered all phone numbers by their interval pattern...

Me too, and I can still remember those numbers.
BTW.....it almost always gets a laugh if you show someone how they can sing their number. ha


Long ago, I was able to recognize what number was being dialed on a rotary phone by ear. (at least the one in our house)
Posted By: foxyw Re: Are you weird?... - 01/05/10 01:38 AM
This telephone tone generator is pretty cool - my phone number as a kid sounds just like I remember it smile

http://www.dialabc.com/sound/generate/

Posted By: lauralei Re: Are you weird?... - 01/05/10 02:06 AM
Originally Posted by foxyw
This telephone tone generator is pretty cool - my phone number as a kid sounds just like I remember it smile

http://www.dialabc.com/sound/generate/



I don't need to use this link...I still use a rotary phone!!

(That's how weird I am!)
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 01/05/10 03:30 AM
Originally Posted by lauralei
I don't need to use this link...I still use a rotary phone!!
(That's how weird I am!)

I think you win the award. ha

I'm a lot into old-time stuff too -- it's sort of just by accident that I have a microwave -- but I need touch tone. Y'know, "For English press 1" and stuff like that. smile
Posted By: izaldu Re: Are you weird?... - 01/05/10 01:11 PM
Better weird than dumb
Posted By: Juli_et Re: Are you weird?... - 01/05/10 05:57 PM
Just stepping in the conversation...
Have you ever noticed how people say that we have to be ourselves, everybody is different, etc...
But in fact, they want everybody to be the same?
Those people seems perfectly happy...they find everything they need at Walmart (or other big stores), they like the music everywhere they go, their favorite movies are easy to find, etc... I am not like that but can find a lot of people like this in my family.

What I do not like: people in their own comfort zone, only interested in what they already do.

What I like: listening to someone passionate about something and talking about it (even if I do not share the same passion).
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/05/10 06:56 PM
Originally Posted by Canonie
you are right! it does look like that, oh dear. I was hoping it looked more like joyful acceptance of well earned applause, blowing kisses and being showered with roses. The kind of thing that happens on most weekends to we fine musicians... you know...

Actually rose petals can be delicious in a cool summer drink with fresh (not Meyer) lemon juice, a tiny bit of rind and sugar in iced water. But my lemon tree and my red rose have only leaves just now.


I think hippies eat flowers? Or maybe not... [Linked Image]
Congratulations on becoming a 500-post member! I hope I will join the club soon...
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/05/10 07:33 PM
Originally Posted by Juli_et
What I like: listening to someone passionate about something and talking about it (even if I do not share the same passion).


I think you'll agree that there are a lot of folks to like here at PW. It's just too bad we live so far away from one another.
Posted By: MaryBee Re: Are you weird?... - 01/05/10 07:42 PM
For everyone who posted to this thread, here is your assignment:

http://ignite.oreilly.com/2009/07/alexis-bauer-on-how-to-work-a-crowd.html

Watch it and start practicing -- and I don't mean piano!

(This includes me! smile )
Posted By: P I A N O piano Re: Are you weird?... - 01/06/10 01:00 AM
Originally Posted by gooddog
Originally Posted by Juli_et
What I like: listening to someone passionate about something and talking about it (even if I do not share the same passion).


I think you'll agree that there are a lot of folks to like here at PW. It's just too bad we live so far away from one another.


Has anyone ever discussed a PIANO WORLD meeting/conference? ...with masterclasses, performance opportunities... etc.? grin
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/06/10 01:54 AM
Originally Posted by MaryBee
For everyone who posted to this thread, here is your assignment:

http://ignite.oreilly.com/2009/07/alexis-bauer-on-how-to-work-a-crowd.html

Watch it and start practicing -- and I don't mean piano!

(This includes me! smile )

That was really worth a look. I'm going to forward it to my socially awkward sons! That's right! I'm even breeding weird!

Originally Posted by P I A N O piano
Has anyone ever discussed a PIANO WORLD meeting/conference? ...with masterclasses, performance opportunities... etc.? grin
I believe Frank has gotten involved in some get togethers. I imagine it would be very involved and it wouldn't solve the distance problem - at least until one of us weirdos develops "transporters".
Posted By: jnod Re: Are you weird?... - 01/06/10 02:08 AM
Originally Posted by P I A N O piano
Originally Posted by gooddog
Originally Posted by Juli_et
What I like: listening to someone passionate about something and talking about it (even if I do not share the same passion).


I think you'll agree that there are a lot of folks to like here at PW. It's just too bad we live so far away from one another.


Has anyone ever discussed a PIANO WORLD meeting/conference? ...with masterclasses, performance opportunities... etc.? grin


Actually, my other dweeby online habit is chess - the club I belong to has annual tournaments (in person that is). They tend to be fairly local: the UK crew meets at a pub in London, the Canadian crew meets at a pub in Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal or Vancouver, the Yanks meeting in NYC etc...... could work here if there was sufficient interest.
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 01/06/10 03:01 AM
Originally Posted by P I A N O piano
Has anyone ever discussed a PIANO WORLD meeting/conference? ...with masterclasses, performance opportunities... etc.? grin

Great idea, I think.
Posted By: MaryBee Re: Are you weird?... - 01/06/10 05:59 AM
Originally Posted by Canonie

Edit: when I was young I remembered all phone numbers by their interval pattern, and even had a theory that the nicest ppl had the most musical phone numbers.

I memorize phone numbers by their pattern on the keypad.
And that's not weird!

Nice limerick, BTW!
Posted By: MaryBee Re: Are you weird?... - 01/06/10 06:04 AM
Originally Posted by EltonRach

I see the youths dressed up in goth, those with body piercings, men with 14 mistresses and counting, politicians who serve their own self interests, religious leaders who dress in a gown and wear a peculiar hat, those who drive around in circles on a karting track as a hobby, a wine lover who only drinks pinot noir and those who play the piano but only the digital, those who play the piano but only the acoustic, those who play the piano but only classical, those who play the piano but only non-classical . . . So I know I'm surrounded my many different weird people pursuing their weird hobbies !!!!

The world is full of weirdos. But in some respects - long may it stay that way !!


I agree! I believe that there is something interesting about everyone, we just have to figure out how to find out what those interesting things are. (Hence my link to the Ignite video a few posts above.)

BTW, my sister-in-law, who is an M.D., is jealous of my job, because I get to work with nerds/geeks all the time. smile
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/06/10 07:32 AM
I memorize all dates.... I never have to write down an appointment or a birthday. Is that weird? I am less good with names though.
Also, I am the only one in town who doesn't get a tan, not even in summer. frown Is that weird?
Posted By: wr Re: Are you weird?... - 01/06/10 07:40 AM
Originally Posted by MaryBee
For everyone who posted to this thread, here is your assignment:

http://ignite.oreilly.com/2009/07/alexis-bauer-on-how-to-work-a-crowd.html

Watch it and start practicing -- and I don't mean piano!

(This includes me! smile )


So that's why total strangers start talking to me in the grocery checkout line, (or the bus, or basically any situation where I am trapped, like in the adjacent seat at a concert). I knew there was something weird going on, and now I know: they're just practicing on me. Still, it's weird. I mean, it's not as if I signed up to be their practice buddy somewhere. And it's not like they really want to talk with me. I'm just a surrogate until they corner the person in whom they are really interested. It's like I am the digital piano the pianist works on until they get a real piano. smile

See, told you - I'm weird.

Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/06/10 07:44 AM
Unfortunately this happens to me too, and I have to take off the earphones, give up Chopin and play my weirdo role at the bus stop or in the queue.
Posted By: Little_Blue_Engine Re: Are you weird?... - 01/06/10 02:34 PM
Originally Posted by MaryBee
Originally Posted by Canonie

Edit: when I was young I remembered all phone numbers by their interval pattern, and even had a theory that the nicest ppl had the most musical phone numbers.

I memorize phone numbers by their pattern on the keypad.
And that's not weird!

Nice limerick, BTW!

I don't think either of these things are weird. I never memorized phone numbers by interval and I can't identify intervals yet, but when I read this I could instantly remember what my childhood phone number sounded like.
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 01/06/10 02:36 PM
Originally Posted by ChopinAddict
I memorize all dates.... I never have to write down an appointment....

There will come a time when you'll need to. ha

Sounds pretty darn good for now though. smile
Posted By: John Citron Re: Are you weird?... - 01/06/10 06:05 PM
Originally Posted by MarkCannon
Originally Posted by ChopinAddict
I memorize all dates.... I never have to write down an appointment....

There will come a time when you'll need to. ha

Sounds pretty darn good for now though. smile


Yup... I'm like that now. wink I've gotten so bad I had to write down my system password because I locked myself out of my own PC!

John
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/06/10 08:43 PM
Originally Posted by MarkCannon
Originally Posted by ChopinAddict
I memorize all dates.... I never have to write down an appointment....

There will come a time when you'll need to. ha

Sounds pretty darn good for now though. smile


It could be that when I get older I will have to... cry, but at any rate I have been told people with Asperger's have a remarkable memory for dates.... wink
Posted By: Rachel J Re: Are you weird?... - 01/06/10 09:10 PM
What a great thread topic... Yes, I guess I'm weird too. I really try to play it down when I'm around strangers, lol. I am a classical pianist, a vegan, and a computer geek. There are only two shows on TV I like a lot and they are both pretty dark. I'm a really happy person, though! Just like you, though, I don't feel like I can really get into too many conversations with people. Luckily I have one wonderful friend who puts up with all my weirdness, but when it comes to parties, yeah, it's pretty bad.
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/06/10 09:12 PM
I am vegetarian too, although not a vegan.... smile
Posted By: Rachel J Re: Are you weird?... - 01/06/10 09:19 PM
Originally Posted by ChopinAddict
I am vegetarian too, although not a vegan.... smile


Then you too have gotten the funny looks at parties when you are declining all the food! I swear it's such a hassle... Last time I went to party there was nothing suitable for me to eat (which is totally fine because I'm used to it). I didn't care at all, but it seemed like the other women were irritated with me for not eating. They seemed to think I was doing it to show off my willpower or something. People don't get it, and they think you are showing off or being difficult.
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/06/10 09:28 PM
Yeah, whenever something is offered to me I must ask "Is there any meat in it?", and people look at me in a funny way....
Posted By: Piano Again Re: Are you weird?... - 01/06/10 10:13 PM
I've been a vegetarian for about 35 years now. Everyone I know is used to my weirdness by now. It made me very weird when I lived in the Midwest, though.

It's much less unusual now than it was back then.
Posted By: Piano Again Re: Are you weird?... - 01/06/10 10:16 PM
Originally Posted by wr
Originally Posted by MaryBee
For everyone who posted to this thread, here is your assignment:

http://ignite.oreilly.com/2009/07/alexis-bauer-on-how-to-work-a-crowd.html

Watch it and start practicing -- and I don't mean piano!

(This includes me! smile )


So that's why total strangers start talking to me in the grocery checkout line, (or the bus, or basically any situation where I am trapped, like in the adjacent seat at a concert). I knew there was something weird going on, and now I know: they're just practicing on me. Still, it's weird. I mean, it's not as if I signed up to be their practice buddy somewhere. And it's not like they really want to talk with me. I'm just a surrogate until they corner the person in whom they are really interested. It's like I am the digital piano the pianist works on until they get a real piano. smile

See, told you - I'm weird.



I saw a great term for this: they are using you as "social roughage."
Posted By: Oz Marcus Re: Are you weird?... - 01/07/10 12:13 PM
Originally Posted by Ludwig van Bilge
[ Einstein taught us Relativity we're still teaching Newtonian gravity in school??


And I understand that some states in the US teach creationism as a science?!%?
How weird is that?

Lont live the Flying Spaghetti Monster say I!
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/07/10 02:55 PM
Originally Posted by Oz Marcus

Long live the Flying Spaghetti Monster say I!
Oh yes! I am very devoted to the church of the FSM and have a sticker on the back of my car to advertise it.
Posted By: moscheles001 Re: Are you weird?... - 01/07/10 02:59 PM
Originally Posted by gooddog
Originally Posted by Oz Marcus

Long live the Flying Spaghetti Monster say I!
Oh yes! I am very devoted to the church of the FSM and have a sticker on the back of my car to advertise it.


1+!!!
Posted By: Damon Re: Are you weird?... - 01/07/10 04:54 PM
Originally Posted by gooddog
Originally Posted by Oz Marcus

Long live the Flying Spaghetti Monster say I!
Oh yes! I am very devoted to the church of the FSM and have a sticker on the back of my car to advertise it.


Odin would kick the FSM's ischial tuberosity.
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/07/10 05:03 PM
Originally Posted by Damon
Odin would kick the FSM's ischial tuberosity.
A supreme being like The FSM, does not include this particular anatomical part. grin
Posted By: Damon Re: Are you weird?... - 01/07/10 05:48 PM
Originally Posted by gooddog
Originally Posted by Damon
Odin would kick the FSM's ischial tuberosity.
A supreme being like The FSM, does not include this particular anatomical part. grin

It was a G-rated figure of speech. laugh
Posted By: moscheles001 Re: Are you weird?... - 01/07/10 05:57 PM
The argument is moot: Odin is just a myth.
Posted By: Damon Re: Are you weird?... - 01/07/10 05:59 PM
Zeus then?
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/07/10 06:03 PM
Personally, I also worship the goddess Allegra. laugh

Edit: Oh gosh, nobody got it. Allegra is an antihistamine that I cherish.
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/07/10 07:20 PM
I'd rather worship Apollo...
[Linked Image]
Posted By: MaryBee Re: Are you weird?... - 01/07/10 11:43 PM
Originally Posted by ChopinAddict
Unfortunately this happens to me too, and I have to take off the earphones, give up Chopin and play my weirdo role at the bus stop or in the queue.

Oh, so that was you (or maybe WR) that I was trying to start a conversation with at the bus the other day! ha
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 01/08/10 04:48 AM
Maybe you are closer to wr.... I live Down Under!

Or were you really the lady who made me take off the earphones just to tell me she had just missed the bus? wink

[Linked Image]
Posted By: Ferdinand Re: Are you weird?... - 01/08/10 06:35 AM
Originally Posted by Damon
Originally Posted by gooddog
Originally Posted by Oz Marcus

Long live the Flying Spaghetti Monster say I!
Oh yes! I am very devoted to the church of the FSM and have a sticker on the back of my car to advertise it.


Odin would kick the FSM's ischial tuberosity.


Originally Posted by ChopinAddict
I'd rather worship Apollo...


Now, now. Are not we all clavecinists here?
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/08/10 02:59 PM
Originally Posted by Oz Marcus
Long live the Flying Spaghetti Monster say I!


In Seattle, we worship publically:

http://images.google.com/imgres?img...ates%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive
Posted By: Phlebas Re: Are you weird?... - 01/10/10 04:11 PM
Interesting anecdote about how "weird" I am:
I had a conversation recently about classical music at work with someone. We were talking about - not that it matters - someone's remark that a certain pianist played like a conductor.

A couple days later I remembered the discussion, and tried to find it on Piano World. After looking, and looking, I remembered that it was an actual real life conversation, and not something online.

Had to laugh because all my discussion of music tend to be online, and it didn't occur to me that this particular one was real life.

Now, how weird is that?
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/10/10 04:17 PM
I really understand. Being upset all day about the expulsion of one of my e-friends seems just as weird as your being surprised about a real life vs online discussion. No one in my household had any idea what I was talking about and I was told I was reacting to a situation with my "imaginary friends."
Posted By: John Citron Re: Are you weird?... - 01/10/10 06:36 PM
Originally Posted by gooddog
I really understand. Being upset all day about the expulsion of one of my e-friends seems just as weird as your being surprised about a real life vs online discussion. No one in my household had any idea what I was talking about and I was told I was reacting to a situation with my "imaginary friends."


You might find this interesting, Deborah. The online communities have quite an impact on society today. Much more than we'd think.

http://www.mysocialnetwork.net/blog/481/y10/2006/10/effects_of_online_networks_com.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_community

What is interesting is how these groups can have an impact on one's life. The famous Brain Talk forums, for example started over at Mass. General Hospital in the early 2000s, grew from a simple gathering place for individuals to discuss their conditions, to a forum that lead to self-help and research. When BT died a few years ago, it transformed over to NeuroTalk, which is still alive today. At first doctors were, and most still are, reluctant to embrace, the patient-driven, self-help, group-help, community. But things are changing. Doctors are now finding that these forums actually help patients come to terms with their conditions, help in their treatment because they can provide feedback through education, and more importantly provide support for each other.

http://www.acor.org/epatientswiki/index.php/The_Surprisingly_Complex_World_of_e-Communities

As a member of NeuroTalk, and previous of the late BrainTalk forums, I've been asked to join in on a joint-effort book publishing project. This so far has been an interesting project, although I only supply technical support, I've had the opportunity to read the book as it has been unfolding. The online patient world is quite supportive and like the community here full of people with many interests and lifestyles. When someone is hurt, or in trouble, we come together as a community. We share in loss as well as each person's gain, and over the years many of the patients have gotten to meet and become real friends of each other.

So are you weird feeling this way? No, not in today's intereconnected world. We are part of a community whether it's online or in person. laugh

John
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 01/10/10 07:44 PM
Thank you, John. I do consider my participating in PW to be high quality communication, but at times it seems a little weird to feel familiar with personalities without ever having met anyone in person. I feel a sense of imbalance and caution because I haven't met the entire person. This doesn't prevent me for developing fondness and respect for certain members but I do wish there was a way to spend face to face time with some of my friends here.

One notable thing that has resulted from my participation in this, my only forum, is some jealous balking by family members who say I enjoy my forum friends more than my family. No at all true. It's just that my family does not share my passion for classical music and after over 40 years of piano isolation, I am reveling in being able to talk about something that is so important to me. In fact, I barely spend more than 30 minutes a day on PW. It does make me wonder about the impact of the growth of e-society on interpersonal communcation.

As a teacher, it is hard not to notice how much communication takes place via email and text messages. Clearly social dynamics are swiftly changing. Today's teens were weaned on computers and take this instant, faceless, anytime communcation for granted. It will be interesting to see what impact this has on society in the long run.

I truly enjoy computers and email. The only thing that saddens (and irritates me) is the breakdown of politeness. This spills over into face to face communication and I'm constantly facing down a student who does not say please or thank you. Perhaps I am a dinosaur who is fighting the inevitable, but I feel civility is essential to a peaceful society.
Posted By: lisztonian Re: Are you weird?... - 02/07/10 06:08 PM
Originally Posted by Oz Marcus
Originally Posted by Ludwig van Bilge
[ Einstein taught us Relativity we're still teaching Newtonian gravity in school??


And I understand that some states in the US teach creationism as a science?!%?
How weird is that?

Lont live the Flying Spaghetti Monster say I!


Considering God created the laws of science, yes. Nothing weird here.
Posted By: jnod Re: Are you weird?... - 02/09/10 01:49 AM


Considering God created the laws of science, yes. Nothing weird here. [/quote]


are you serious lizstonian? Just asking.....
Posted By: Pogorelich. Re: Are you weird?... - 02/09/10 05:45 AM
I worship Rachmaninoff.
Posted By: stores Re: Are you weird?... - 02/09/10 01:59 PM
Originally Posted by AngelinaPogorelich
I worship Rachmaninoff.


It's ok. We're not all perfect =p
Posted By: Pogorelich. Re: Are you weird?... - 02/09/10 03:52 PM
Originally Posted by stores
Originally Posted by AngelinaPogorelich
I worship Rachmaninoff.


It's ok. We're not all perfect =p


Rachmaninoff is perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: stores Re: Are you weird?... - 02/09/10 04:15 PM
Originally Posted by AngelinaPogorelich
Originally Posted by stores
Originally Posted by AngelinaPogorelich
I worship Rachmaninoff.


It's ok. We're not all perfect =p


Rachmaninoff is perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah, if you're weird. =p
Posted By: John_B Re: Are you weird?... - 02/09/10 04:20 PM
I remember, sometime ago, some close friends saying I was 'quirky'.

I guess 'quirky' = a polite way of saying 'weird'.

(I think I am perfectly normal ....

.... it's just everyone else who is odd.)
Posted By: D4v3 Re: Are you weird?... - 02/09/10 05:27 PM
Has this thread Godwined yet?
Posted By: Kreklewetz Re: Are you weird?... - 02/10/10 07:01 PM
Wow, pianists interested in chemistry! Nice to see I'm not the only one. As a music major taking chemistry electives, I've gotten quite tired of both music and science students asking me, over and over again, why on earth I would do that. It gets on my nerves when other music students, upon seeing my chem textbook, put on a dismissive tone of voice and say "Yech, I never could do any of that science stuff" in a way that seems to imply "real artists are supposed to be scientifically ignorant, therefor, something is wrong with you."
Posted By: Less Rubato Re: Are you weird?... - 02/10/10 07:10 PM
To me , it's not really all that surprising that pianists tend to be smarter than the average bear. How about a trek in the OTHER direction? How many people ( besides myself) can say that mull over fantasy football match ups while they play Chopin?
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 02/10/10 07:12 PM
Originally Posted by Kreklewetz
Wow, pianists interested in chemistry! Nice to see I'm not the only one. As a music major taking chemistry electives, I've gotten quite tired of both music and science students asking me, over and over again, why on earth I would do that.....

I was a chem major taking music electives. smile

But, a music major taking chemistry electives.....Why on earth would you do that? ha
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 02/10/10 07:13 PM
Originally Posted by Less Rubato
....How many people ( besides myself) can say that mull over fantasy football match ups while they play Chopin?

I don't do that, but I do mull over the Yankee outfield situation while I play Chopin. ha
Posted By: stores Re: Are you weird?... - 02/10/10 07:42 PM
Originally Posted by Mark_C
Originally Posted by Less Rubato
....How many people ( besides myself) can say that mull over fantasy football match ups while they play Chopin?

I don't do that, but I do mull over the Yankee outfield situation while I play Chopin. ha


The Yankees suck. =p Their outfield situation should be better now that the Tigers were foolish enough to let Curtis Granderson get away.
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 02/10/10 07:45 PM
Let's see how far we can get with the baseball before peeps yell at us..... ha

I like Granderson a lot, but unless the Yanks can "fix" something about him (which it seems they think they can but which I doubt), he can't hit lefties, and teams pitch a lot of lefties at Yankee Stadium, so it'll be 'interesting' to see what happens with that. And even besides that, I don't think they're well-set for LF or RF. I was sure they were planning some more moves.
Posted By: Dreamer 66 Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 12:16 AM
Yes. I survey those around me and sadly, I have little in common with them. Since I do not own a tv, do not really go to see movies, and do not listen to the common trash on the radio, there is little for me to say.

Professional team sports? Sorry, but, I think I have heard those types of conversations around 3 billion times. I cannot live my life through almost worshiping those who make millions playing a game.

But, I do get to hear some good topics at the church I go to. I am blessed to be able to go.

D
Posted By: Less Rubato Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 12:29 AM
How have I managed to miss responses about sports?!!

I actually agree with Dreamer66 about worshiping athletes. That's why I like fantasy sports . It's all about manipulating stats. I do not pay to play or gamble--I just like to see how well I do. Admittedly, I take a certain pleasure in winning against the guys in my league. Therein lays the distraction to my music.

It's a beautiful dilemma to have many interests and so little time. Weird or not, we're all blessed to have options. Many aren't so lucky.
Posted By: Semper Bösendorfer Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 12:44 AM
In Australia there are two 'AFL's. The 'Australian Football League' and the 'Anti-Football League' The latter does not distract concentrating on even the most esoteric 'Urtext' Journal article! How can being a member of the latter thus be weird??

'nuff said!
Posted By: stores Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 04:48 AM
Originally Posted by Mark_C
Let's see how far we can get with the baseball before peeps yell at us..... ha

I like Granderson a lot, but unless the Yanks can "fix" something about him (which it seems they think they can but which I doubt), he can't hit lefties, and teams pitch a lot of lefties at Yankee Stadium, so it'll be 'interesting' to see what happens with that. And even besides that, I don't think they're well-set for LF or RF. I was sure they were planning some more moves.


You're quite right. If he has a downside it's hitting lefties. The Tigers will miss him regardless...he's a damned good player.
Posted By: veem Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 04:49 AM
Originally Posted by Mark_C

I was a chem major taking music electives. smile


Wow... I'm a chem major taking music electives next year! :P
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 05:09 AM
I love chem, biology, astronomy, medicine, science etc.. but I hate sports.... bah
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Posted By: Less Rubato Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 05:22 AM
Originally Posted by stores
Originally Posted by Mark_C
Let's see how far we can get with the baseball before peeps yell at us..... ha

I like Granderson a lot, but unless the Yanks can "fix" something about him (which it seems they think they can but which I doubt), he can't hit lefties, and teams pitch a lot of lefties at Yankee Stadium, so it'll be 'interesting' to see what happens with that. And even besides that, I don't think they're well-set for LF or RF. I was sure they were planning some more moves.


You're quite right. If he has a downside it's hitting lefties. The Tigers will miss him regardless...he's a damned good player.


And a fine man from all accounts.
I'm glad NY snagged Granderson though . Now they can leave Grady Sizemore alone.
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 05:42 AM
Originally Posted by Less Rubato
.....I'm glad NY snagged Granderson though . Now they can leave Grady Sizemore alone.

Cool! A Cleveland fan. smile
I mean, I'm not one, but it's cool that we have fans from all over.

The female Yankee fans were especially hoping we'd get Sizemore some time..... ha
Posted By: Less Rubato Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 06:10 AM
Originally Posted by Mark_C
Originally Posted by Less Rubato
.....I'm glad NY snagged Granderson though . Now they can leave Grady Sizemore alone.

Cool! A Cleveland fan. smile
I mean, I'm not one, but it's cool that we have fans from all over.

The female Yankee fans were especially hoping we'd get Sizemore some time..... ha


Yes, he has quite a gaggle of lady fans.

I practically grew up at old Cleveland Stadium watching the Indians with my dad and brother. Baseball seems so different now , but those were great memories--some of the best of my entire life.
Posted By: Seabelle Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 06:28 AM
Originally Posted by Less Rubato
It's a beautiful dilemma to have many interests and so little time. Weird or not, we're all blessed to have options. Many aren't so lucky.


That's true. It's a wonderful time to be alive.

Can someone help me work out fantasy baseball? I don't get it at all and I really want to get into it.
Posted By: stores Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 07:11 AM
Originally Posted by Seabelle
Originally Posted by Less Rubato
It's a beautiful dilemma to have many interests and so little time. Weird or not, we're all blessed to have options. Many aren't so lucky.


That's true. It's a wonderful time to be alive.

Can someone help me work out fantasy baseball? I don't get it at all and I really want to get into it.


Baseball would drive me nuts, because you'd literally have to keep up with it every, single day. I'm a fantasy football nut, though. I ended up 3 points shy of winning my league this year. Ugh! =(
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 07:18 AM
Originally Posted by Less Rubato
....I practically grew up at old Cleveland Stadium watching the Indians with my dad and brother. Baseball seems so different now , but those were great memories--some of the best of my entire life.

I guess that was the one where the CF wall was like 480'. smile

Sounds like great memories indeed. Those are the best.
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 07:20 AM
Originally Posted by Seabelle
....Can someone help me work out fantasy baseball? I don't get it at all and I really want to get into it.

I'm a huge baseball fan and I wouldn't want to get within 100 miles of that. smile
I think it throws off how we look at the game. But I know that a lot of people LOVE it.....
Posted By: Less Rubato Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 03:45 PM
Originally Posted by Seabelle
Originally Posted by Less Rubato
It's a beautiful dilemma to have many interests and so little time. Weird or not, we're all blessed to have options. Many aren't so lucky.


That's true. It's a wonderful time to be alive.

Can someone help me work out fantasy baseball? I don't get it at all and I really want to get into it.


I will send you a PM later today with some things that will help smile
Posted By: Less Rubato Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 03:47 PM
It was great because you could heckle the players and they'd actually HEAR you. Before I moved out west we'd go to Opening Day every year. Had a few snow outs.

Now I just occasionally see the Indians when they come to Seattle. At least being out here I'll still be able to watch Cliff Lee a lot.
Posted By: Less Rubato Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 04:00 PM
Originally Posted by stores
Originally Posted by Seabelle
Originally Posted by Less Rubato
It's a beautiful dilemma to have many interests and so little time. Weird or not, we're all blessed to have options. Many aren't so lucky.


That's true. It's a wonderful time to be alive.

Can someone help me work out fantasy baseball? I don't get it at all and I really want to get into it.


Baseball would drive me nuts, because you'd literally have to keep up with it every, single day. I'm a fantasy football nut, though. I ended up 3 points shy of winning my league this year. Ugh! =(


Same with me . Football is less time intensive.
Congrats on your finish. You'll be even better next year which will likely scare the others.
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 05:06 PM
Originally Posted by Less Rubato
It was great because you could heckle the players and they'd actually HEAR you....

I lived in Milwaukee for a while and it was often like that, since the team was terrible. smile
I would sit behind the Yankee dugout, and yelling to the players during the game was just like at a local softball game or something.

Quote
Now I just occasionally see the Indians when they come to Seattle. At least being out here I'll still be able to watch Cliff Lee a lot.

Perfect! ha

What a weird last few months for him.

P.S. We were at "that game" in the World Series (game 1). Although we're Yankee fans, it was great to witness such a performance.
Posted By: Less Rubato Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 05:14 PM
I have visions (nightmares?)of Billy Brewer sliding into that huge fake beer mug.
Gotta love Milwaukee.

The first game I ever went to was Opening Day vs. the Yankees. Reggie Jackson was really taking a lot of ribbing and he was so cool about it. He just kept turning around and tipping his cap.

I want to ask you about the new Yankee Stadium but I'm afraid people will be put off by baseball chatter on this thread.

Sorry folks smile

Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 05:24 PM
About the new Yankee Stadium......Short answer: it's a disappointment, including that some of it seems slipshod. I can't believe it.

In fact, this is downright WEIRD -- which brings us right back on topic. smile
Posted By: Less Rubato Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 05:47 PM
I seem to remember a recent picture of Mariano Rivera standing in front of a piano. Maybe it was for GQ or something? Sound familiar at all?

(how's that?)
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 06:29 PM
Originally Posted by Less Rubato
I seem to remember a recent picture of Mariano Rivera standing in front of a piano. Maybe it was for GQ or something? Sound familiar at all?
(how's that?)

Good job. ha

I never saw any picture like that but if anyone can find it I'd love to see it.
Posted By: stores Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 06:40 PM
Originally Posted by Less Rubato
Originally Posted by stores
Originally Posted by Seabelle
Originally Posted by Less Rubato
It's a beautiful dilemma to have many interests and so little time. Weird or not, we're all blessed to have options. Many aren't so lucky.


That's true. It's a wonderful time to be alive.

Can someone help me work out fantasy baseball? I don't get it at all and I really want to get into it.


Baseball would drive me nuts, because you'd literally have to keep up with it every, single day. I'm a fantasy football nut, though. I ended up 3 points shy of winning my league this year. Ugh! =(


Same with me . Football is less time intensive.
Congrats on your finish. You'll be even better next year which will likely scare the others.


Oh thanks. The thing is I've finished 2nd for 3 years running now lol, but this past season was the closest I've gotten. Hopefully next year I'll get over the hump.
Posted By: currawong Re: Are you weird?... - 02/11/10 09:05 PM
Well, after reading all this talk about some game (I assume) played with sticks and round things, I can answer the original question. Yes, you are weird. grin
Posted By: wr Re: Are you weird?... - 02/12/10 06:55 AM
Originally Posted by Less Rubato


I want to ask you about the new Yankee Stadium but I'm afraid people will be put off by baseball chatter on this thread.



Why aren't you having this conversation via PMs, then?

Posted By: Joseph Fleetwood Re: Are you weird?... - 02/12/10 06:56 AM
Yes, I am weird.

Is anyone normal? Now, THAT would be weird smile
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 02/12/10 07:38 AM
Normal people are boring (if there are any, hopefully not here...)
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 02/12/10 07:43 AM
Originally Posted by wr
Originally Posted by Less Rubato

I want to ask you about the new Yankee Stadium but I'm afraid people will be put off by baseball chatter on this thread.

Why aren't you having this conversation via PMs, then?

Does it really bother you, or are you just looking to give 'someone' a hard time?

BTW....I don't do PM.
Posted By: Less Rubato Re: Are you weird?... - 02/12/10 03:49 PM
Originally Posted by Mark_C
Originally Posted by wr
Originally Posted by Less Rubato

I want to ask you about the new Yankee Stadium but I'm afraid people will be put off by baseball chatter on this thread.

Why aren't you having this conversation via PMs, then?

Does it really bother you, or are you just looking to give 'someone' a hard time?

BTW....I don't do PM.


Thanks ,Mark.

I apologized once for pulling the thread off topic.
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 02/12/10 03:52 PM
Originally Posted by Less Rubato
Thanks.....I apologized once for pulling the thread off topic.

IMO this is a kind of thread that can well tolerate some little tangents, and to some extent, most threads are. But about this thread......I mean, look what it's about: Having or not having certain kinds of interests. So we were talking about one of the kinds of interests that had been mentioned prominently by several people (although mostly in the sense of not having that interest).

I didn't think you needed to apologize.
Posted By: Less Rubato Re: Are you weird?... - 02/12/10 03:58 PM
Clearly, what we have here is a Red Sox fan...(kidding)

BTW, that piano photo was in Sporting News when they named Rivera Sportsman of the Year 2009. Still looking for a link.
Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 02/12/10 04:15 PM
Would love to see it (but please don't work too hard). smile

And yeah, Red Sox fan might be a good guess. ha

(More likely just not a fan, in more ways than one.)
Posted By: wr Re: Are you weird?... - 02/13/10 08:42 AM
Originally Posted by Less Rubato
Originally Posted by Mark_C
Originally Posted by wr
Originally Posted by Less Rubato

I want to ask you about the new Yankee Stadium but I'm afraid people will be put off by baseball chatter on this thread.

Why aren't you having this conversation via PMs, then?

Does it really bother you, or are you just looking to give 'someone' a hard time?

BTW....I don't do PM.


Thanks ,Mark.

I apologized once for pulling the thread off topic.


An apology is pretty pointless if you keep doing what it was you needed to apologize for, no?

If you don't like the idea of using PMs for off-topic conversations, you can always start an off-topic thread. Someone (inspired by this "Are you weird..." thread, in fact), did just that not so long ago with the "chess?" thread. I'm not interested in chess, but it didn't bug me like this digression about sports has, because I didn't even need to open the topic, much less don my barnyard boots to tread carefully through a bunch of, uh...off-topic posts. So you might want to consider doing that next time.

I have to say it's pretty ironic that this thread about "weirdness" of people here has gone 180 degrees to being about the most "normal" subject imaginable, exactly the kind of thing the OP was not interested in.

About Mark_C - I have no idea what he's talking about or who that "someone" might be that he imagines me wanting to give a hard time. I shut him off with the wonderful "Ignore User" feature almost immediately after he showed up, so I don't even see his posts unless someone includes one of them in their own post, as you did, or even more rarely, I find occasion to toggle one into view because of the context in which I find it.

Posted By: Mark_C Re: Are you weird?... - 02/13/10 09:02 AM
(I don't think you have to worry about him, LR.)
Posted By: Less Rubato Re: Are you weird?... - 02/13/10 03:07 PM
Originally Posted by Mark_C
(I don't think you have to worry about him, LR.)


Yes. I think it would be most tragic if someone sat there all day stewing over a few replys to one of thousands and thousands of threads here . Maybe even lost some sleep over less than a minutes worth of reading.

Moving on...happy piano playing everyone!
Posted By: currawong Re: Are you weird?... - 02/13/10 10:08 PM
Not wanting to start or prolong disagreements smile - just to say that I was going to suggest the baseball fans could start a new thread (eg OT - baseball) so that those of us who are not interested don't have to open the thread to find out it's all about something other than we thought. That's the point, I think, not the subject itself, or the off-topicness.

Posted By: stores Re: Are you weird?... - 02/13/10 10:24 PM
Originally Posted by currawong
Not wanting to start or prolong disagreements smile - just to say that I was going to suggest the baseball fans could start a new thread (eg OT - baseball) so that those of us who are not interested don't have to open the thread to find out it's all about something other than we thought. That's the point, I think, not the subject itself, or the off-topicness.



Or, you could just get over it. I notice you didn't have anything to say about those discussing cytotechnology, chemistry, Newtonian physics, etc., etc. Apparently, those subjects DO hold interest for you and, as such, you have no problem opening a thread to find out that the thread is about something altogether different than you'd thought. That said, I'm not, at all, sure what one would think a thread titled, "Are you weird", to be about, to begin with.
Posted By: currawong Re: Are you weird?... - 02/13/10 10:27 PM
Originally Posted by stores
Or, you could just get over it.
I could indeed. And you could try a little politeness, though I'm not holding my breath.
Posted By: stores Re: Are you weird?... - 02/14/10 01:51 AM
Originally Posted by currawong
Originally Posted by stores
Or, you could just get over it.
I could indeed. And you could try a little politeness, though I'm not holding my breath.


There was no offense intended. It was simply a suggestion...much as was your own suggestion that some start up another thread.
Posted By: wr Re: Are you weird?... - 02/14/10 11:28 AM
Originally Posted by stores
Originally Posted by currawong
Not wanting to start or prolong disagreements smile - just to say that I was going to suggest the baseball fans could start a new thread (eg OT - baseball) so that those of us who are not interested don't have to open the thread to find out it's all about something other than we thought. That's the point, I think, not the subject itself, or the off-topicness.



Or, you could just get over it.



And so could you have. But you didn't.

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I notice you didn't have anything to say about those discussing cytotechnology, chemistry, Newtonian physics, etc., etc. Apparently, those subjects DO hold interest for you and, as such, you have no problem opening a thread to find out that the thread is about something altogether different than you'd thought. That said, I'm not, at all, sure what one would think a thread titled, "Are you weird", to be about, to begin with.


It might not be obvious what this "Are you weird" thread is about from the subject line, but a quick look at one single post, the first one, makes it clear. And if that topic is not of interest, it is a simple matter to steer clear of it.

It is not so simple to steer clear of a thread hijacking that occurs well into the life of a long-lived thread, where the off-topic posts may be mixed in with those that are on-topic, and there's no way to find out without reading them.

Also, there are many reasons that a person might selectively object to off-topic posts, such as the tone of the posts, the number of them, feelings about the people posting them, how disruptive of the thread as a whole they seem, whether the post touches on a pet peeve, whether the poster is an interesting writer, the degree of inappropriateness, etc. etc. etc. There's no reason to act as if we all feel exactly the same about every off-topic post we come across.
Posted By: stores Re: Are you weird?... - 02/14/10 04:00 PM
Originally Posted by wr
Originally Posted by stores
Originally Posted by currawong
Not wanting to start or prolong disagreements smile - just to say that I was going to suggest the baseball fans could start a new thread (eg OT - baseball) so that those of us who are not interested don't have to open the thread to find out it's all about something other than we thought. That's the point, I think, not the subject itself, or the off-topicness.



Or, you could just get over it.



And so could you have. But you didn't.

Quote



I notice you didn't have anything to say about those discussing cytotechnology, chemistry, Newtonian physics, etc., etc. Apparently, those subjects DO hold interest for you and, as such, you have no problem opening a thread to find out that the thread is about something altogether different than you'd thought. That said, I'm not, at all, sure what one would think a thread titled, "Are you weird", to be about, to begin with.


It might not be obvious what this "Are you weird" thread is about from the subject line, but a quick look at one single post, the first one, makes it clear. And if that topic is not of interest, it is a simple matter to steer clear of it.

It is not so simple to steer clear of a thread hijacking that occurs well into the life of a long-lived thread, where the off-topic posts may be mixed in with those that are on-topic, and there's no way to find out without reading them.

Also, there are many reasons that a person might selectively object to off-topic posts, such as the tone of the posts, the number of them, feelings about the people posting them, how disruptive of the thread as a whole they seem, whether the post touches on a pet peeve, whether the poster is an interesting writer, the degree of inappropriateness, etc. etc. etc. There's no reason to act as if we all feel exactly the same about every off-topic post we come across.


Who's acting as if we all feel exactly the same? My point was, don't object to one area as being off-topic and not another. Be consistent, or don't bother at all.
In regard to your first reply, it was a (first) suggestion to repetitive objections by that poster. As a result, there's nothing for me to "get over", while, clearly, they DO have something to get past. Just sayin'.
Posted By: Less Rubato Re: Are you weird?... - 02/14/10 04:07 PM
Stores-
Thank you for fighting the good fight here but it's all water under the bridge. I'm just glad there are a larger group of tolerant, interesting people here than those who simply want to nit pick.
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 02/14/10 05:40 PM
Please stop bickering everyone. I'm the OP. The topic was intended to invite dialogue among classical pianists who often feel alienated in social settings because of a lack of common interests. As a result I, and apparently many others, find social conversation to be a strain and a bore. Finding someone who shares our interest is so rare and precious, it sheds light on why we are all addicted to PW.

It was a delightful revelation to discover that an unusually large number of PW members are also involved in the sciences or mathematics. These interests further our sense of alienation and our longing to arrive at a party and have something to talk about that actually interests us.

I'm tickled that the topic has lasted this long. Do I get a prize?
Posted By: Pogorelich. Re: Are you weird?... - 02/14/10 05:45 PM
Question, off topic (? maybe ?):

Does anybody else ever wake up in the middle of the night to have something playing in their head? Most likely whatever they've practiced during the day or have been listenng to? It's kind of creepy! Sometimes I won't know what it is right away and I'll sit there and listen to it until I get it..
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 02/14/10 05:54 PM
Originally Posted by AngelinaPogorelich
Question, off topic (? maybe ?):
Does anybody else ever wake up in the middle of the night to have something playing in their head?
Always. There is always music playing in my head. Sometimes it is what I am working on. Often it is not. It is always classical unless my husband has infected me by singing a tune that is running through his head. He can't carry a tune and I get infected with warped snippets of commercials or rock songs. Once he has infected me, the little tune goes around and around in my head until I sit down at the piano, put on the radio or force a new melody into my consciousness. Right after I recover from the infection, he will happily come into the room humming another warped tune...and around we go!
Posted By: Tar Re: Are you weird?... - 02/14/10 05:55 PM
Yes I do! ...

... or rather, yes, I did. Until last year I was heavily involved with a university amateur operatic society as a pit band member and as a repetiteur. During those last four years I always suffered a "post-production haunting" where I'd wake up in the middle of the night with that annoying chorus from the Pirates of Penzance looping in my head because I'd played the bl**dy thing 5,205 times over the past three weeks.

I guess the difference here is at least I knew what the music was. Didn't make the experience any better though!
Posted By: Pogorelich. Re: Are you weird?... - 02/14/10 06:00 PM
Originally Posted by Tar
Yes I do! ...

... or rather, yes, I did. Until last year I was heavily involved with a university amateur operatic society as a pit band member and as a repetiteur. During those last four years I always suffered a "post-production haunting" where I'd wake up in the middle of the night with that annoying chorus from the Pirates of Penzance looping in my head because I'd played the bl**dy thing 5,205 times over the past three weeks.

I guess the difference here is at least I knew what the music was. Didn't make the experience any better though!


HAHAHAH that must've been so annoying.. It's ok. I used to have La Campanella stuck in my head a few years ago for what seemed like weeks.. for no reason! It got annoying after a while.
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 02/14/10 07:17 PM
Me too, OF COURSE!
Even worse, sometimes I don't even know if it is my own creation resounding in my head or if I have heard it before....
Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 02/14/10 07:52 PM
Lately, my husband has been unintentionally infecting me with the old jingle that went with "Brylcreem", the men's hair goo. "A little dab'll do ya!
Posted By: Da-Risin-Smoke Re: Are you weird?... - 02/14/10 08:08 PM
I like classical music and piano music.
-Everyone else likes rap and heavy metal.

I like to play piano
-People like to play guitar

I enjoy watching car videos
-Everyone else like sports

I enjoy practicing Karate
-Everyone else likes watching football

My only hobby that's not completely underrated that some others enjoy is my passion in cars.

The difficult part in being unique is you having no one else you can enjoy it with.
Posted By: wr Re: Are you weird?... - 02/15/10 10:12 AM
Originally Posted by gooddog
Please stop bickering everyone. I'm the OP. The topic was intended to invite dialogue among classical pianists who often feel alienated in social settings because of a lack of common interests. As a result I, and apparently many others, find social conversation to be a strain and a bore. Finding someone who shares our interest is so rare and precious, it sheds light on why we are all addicted to PW.

It was a delightful revelation to discover that an unusually large number of PW members are also involved in the sciences or mathematics. These interests further our sense of alienation and our longing to arrive at a party and have something to talk about that actually interests us.

I'm tickled that the topic has lasted this long. Do I get a prize?


You should definitely get a prize for zeroing in on and articulating something that resonated with so many people. Very good thread that I think made a lot of us feel, paradoxically, less weird. Or maybe proudly weird.

I am still not totally sure I want to stop bickering quite yet, though. The main reason is because of the nature of the thread hijack, in light of what the thread is about, which is a celebration of non-conforming people. It's like Dreamer 66 said "Sorry, but, I think I have heard those types of conversations around 3 billion times." So true. Sports are ubiquitous, and we hear about them whether willingly or not. Sports talk is practically the definition of "non-weird", and instead of being merely off-topic, in this particular thread, bringing it up seems to me to be something like an attempt to negate the topic.

"We're the jocks and we own your space. Move aside." How many of us weird ones that the thread is about have not had that experience before, in one form or another? It sure happened to me throughout my school years in many different forms (e.g., there was no band unless it functioned as a support for school sports, instead of as a musical group in its own right). In my work life, it has turned up all the time - I remember a period in which all the execs felt they absolutely had to include a sports analogy in any presentation they gave. Why? Most of the analogies were out-and-out lame, but I guess the ever-present sports-minded contingent felt put at ease somehow, and that was what really mattered. And of course, the secondary message was that those who didn't care about sports were not going to be pandered to. Why? And I've sat through many a business meal and gathering where the sports-minded people hogged the conversation with sports-talk, seemingly completely oblivious to the fact that a substantial number of those present neither knew anything about nor could care less about their sports mania. There's this peculiar sense of entitlement...

I could go on for pages, and I am sure that many others can contribute similar stuff, but the main point for me is that inserting sports talk into this particular thread was just amazingly wrong. It was a demonstration of the very kind of thing we were saying was our "problem" (should we be grateful for how vivid it was?).

Posted By: veem Re: Are you weird?... - 02/15/10 10:28 AM
Originally Posted by Da-Risin-Smoke
I like classical music and piano music.
-Everyone else likes rap and heavy metal.

I like to play piano
-People like to play guitar

I enjoy watching car videos
-Everyone else like sports

I enjoy practicing Karate
-Everyone else likes watching football

My only hobby that's not completely underrated that some others enjoy is my passion in cars.

The difficult part in being unique is you having no one else you can enjoy it with.


Tell me about it... Only I'm not too into cars either. laugh My brother is really into sports and cars. He's also one of the only people I talk to about my musical life...
Though recently I started duets with a good friend of mine (who isn't into classical) and it has proved to be much fun! Ravel's Ma mere l'oye! smile
Posted By: Seabelle Re: Are you weird?... - 02/15/10 11:22 AM
Originally Posted by eggsdeee
Though recently I started duets with a good friend of mine (who isn't into classical) and it has proved to be much fun! Ravel's Ma mere l'oye! smile


If I ever make any friends (directly in response to general the topic) I hope I make one that plays something so we can play together.

Posted By: gooddog Re: Are you weird?... - 02/15/10 05:33 PM
Originally Posted by wr
Very good thread that I think made a lot of us feel, paradoxically, less weird. Or maybe proudly weird...I am still not totally sure I want to stop bickering quite yet, though. The main reason is because of the nature of the thread hijack, Sports are ubiquitous, and we hear about them whether willingly or not...bringing it up seems to me to be something like an attempt to negate the topic.

Well then, thank you for supporting weirdness. Sports talk is indeed a very common topic in business and social conversations because it is safe, nonpolitical and interesting to most people. It's just another reason I'm weird because I find it to be excruciatingly boring. My mind shuts down; I stare blankly and smile weakly hoping the conversation will move elsewhere - which it usually doesn't. "Oh excuse me" and I slink off to the the restroom and make faces at myself in the mirror. I then take a deep breath and return to the fray with an inane smile on my face. Hopefully there is a dog I can converse with.
Posted By: ChopinAddict Re: Are you weird?... - 02/15/10 08:34 PM
Originally Posted by gooddog
Originally Posted by wr
Very good thread that I think made a lot of us feel, paradoxically, less weird. Or maybe proudly weird...I am still not totally sure I want to stop bickering quite yet, though. The main reason is because of the nature of the thread hijack, Sports are ubiquitous, and we hear about them whether willingly or not...bringing it up seems to me to be something like an attempt to negate the topic.

Well then, thank you for supporting weirdness. Sports talk is indeed a very common topic in business and social conversations because it is safe, nonpolitical and interesting to most people. It's just another reason I'm weird because I find it to be excruciatingly boring. My mind shuts down; I stare blankly and smile weakly hoping the conversation will move elsewhere - which it usually doesn't. "Oh excuse me" and I slink off to the the restroom and make faces at myself in the mirror. I then take a deep breath and return to the fray with an inane smile on my face. Hopefully there is a dog I can converse with.


Me too... Anyway, the other day I was talking to my father on the phone. I was talking about something very important, something it was even painful to talk about.... After talking for 5 to 10 minutes and not getting an answer, I said "Hello", then again (louder) "Hello!"... And my father answered "What do you want?" And I "Have you heard what I said?" His answer "Of course not, I am watching the cricket!"
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Posted By: Frozenicicles Re: Are you weird?... - 02/15/10 08:58 PM
I'm not into sports either. Everyone I know is always talking about hockey. My whole city is sports crazy right now since we're hosting the Olympics. laugh
Posted By: moscheles001 Re: Are you weird?... - 02/15/10 09:26 PM
Here in Northeast Pennsylvania, it's sports and deer hunting.
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