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Piano History/value?

Posted By: Twertsy

Piano History/value? - 10/25/13 03:31 PM

Hello all, newbie here. I have an old piano that was left in my townhouse. Manufacture says Leeds Piano Company. Appears to be zero information available via the internet. Can anyone tell us about it? 2 numbers on the parts. 36129 and 2709

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Posted By: Rickster

Re: Piano History/value? - 10/25/13 03:44 PM

Hi Twertsy, and welcome to Piano World!

I have not figured out how to post attachments here either...

However, here are some excellent instruction (origionally posted by our own Monica K. smile ) on posting digital photos into the thread windows.

Rick

"Here are some instructions I've given on other occasions...

1.) First step, and this is critical, resize your photos to about 480-640 pixels. You accomplish this through photoshop or some other photo editing software.

2.) Then go to the PianoWorld uploading site:

http://www.pianoworld.com/Uploads/fileuploader2.html

This is going to give you a screen where you enter your login name, e-mail address, and then you browse for the location of your photo on your computer which you then attach. There will also be a box that says "file information". I have no idea what they really want there, but I just made up a title like 'first picture of new piano." Then you click submit. That is going to bring you to a new screen that will ask you to search for your name among submitters. This is the most confusing part of the process, because that part of the web site is not working and you will not find your name there. Just ignore it, and instead go back to the main file uploader site and repeat the process for each of your remaining photos.

3.) Within a few minutes, you should receive an e-mail from PianoWorld giving you the URL for your newly uploaded photos. You'll get one e-mail per photo. You will need to copy and paste these URLs into your message.

4.) To do that, go back to the thread where you want to post your photo. Click on the "full reply" box. This will bring up all the options you need. Write whatever text you want, and when you're ready to include the photo, click on the fourth icon from the left, the one to the right of the little envelope (which will say "enter an image" when you pass your cursor over it). That will pull up a little box in your message where you can paste the URL for your first photo. And then just repeat as necessary. But it is CRUCIAL to click that little "image" box; otherwise, all that goes in is the URL itself, not the photo in all its glory.

Hope this helps!"
Posted By: Twertsy

Re: Piano History/value? - 10/25/13 03:53 PM

Thanks Rickster....what a PITA!

Links to photos now in original post
Posted By: BDB

Re: Piano History/value? - 10/25/13 04:14 PM

You paid nothing for it. The previous owner did not want to pay to have it removed. So the value is at most zero. Unfortunate, but that is the case all too often these days.
Posted By: Twertsy

Re: Piano History/value? - 10/25/13 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by BDB
You paid nothing for it. The previous owner did not want to pay to have it removed. So the value is at most zero. Unfortunate, but that is the case all too often these days.


So, by that logic, my buddy just bought a farm and all content which, to his surprise, included 5 vintage Shelby mustangs in the barn. Since the previous owner didn't have them removed, they must be worth nothing?

I don't care if it's worth anything, just curious about it because we cannot even find any manufacturer info.
Posted By: Rickster

Re: Piano History/value? - 10/25/13 04:54 PM

There were hundreds or even thousands of piano names/brands back in the glory days of acoustic piano manufacturing.

I have heard of that brand, but don’t know much about it. I had an old upright once with the name “Cadillac”, and, if my memory serves me correctly, it was manufactured in Michigan (no kidding).

I paid a $100 for it, had the key-tops replaced and refinished the exterior and sold it for less than I had in it (the story of my life smile ).

I’m sure some of the experts will chime in soon with more info…

Rick
Posted By: Jean Claude

Re: Piano History/value? - 10/25/13 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by Rickster
There were hundreds or even thousands of piano names/brands back in the glory days of acoustic piano manufacturing.

I have heard of that brand, but don’t know much about it. I had an old upright once with the name “Cadillac”, and, if my memory serves me correctly, it was manufactured in Michigan (no kidding).

I paid a $100 for it, had the key-tops replaced and refinished the exterior and sold it for less than I had in it (the story of my life smile ).

I’m sure some of the experts will chime in soon with more info…

Rick



Goodness, I happened to go to Cadillac a few weeks ago. It is a pleasant enough little town but whoever would have thought of naming a piano after it?
Posted By: OperaTenor

Re: Piano History/value? - 10/25/13 05:54 PM

I just looked it up in the Pierce Piano Atlas, which is the best reference volume we have in the business. Leeds is listed, but there is no information or manufacturing data.

If you could post a photo of the entire piano, and maybe one looking down at the action from the open lid, it might give us an idea of just what you have, and whether it would be advisable to have a tech assess it for you, if you're interested in keeping it.

Good luck.

Posted By: BDB

Re: Piano History/value? - 10/25/13 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by Twertsy
Originally Posted by BDB
You paid nothing for it. The previous owner did not want to pay to have it removed. So the value is at most zero. Unfortunate, but that is the case all too often these days.


So, by that logic, my buddy just bought a farm and all content which, to his surprise, included 5 vintage Shelby mustangs in the barn. Since the previous owner didn't have them removed, they must be worth nothing?

I don't care if it's worth anything, just curious about it because we cannot even find any manufacturer info.


The cars are a more complicated situation, because cars have registered titles which are not transferred with the sale of the property that they are on. They will not have any value until that is taken care of, and that will cost time and money.
Posted By: Minnesota Marty

Re: Piano History/value? - 10/25/13 08:24 PM

Like Jim, I kept coming up with nada. Pierce seems to be the only reference and all that confirms is 'once upon a time.'

One possibility I can think of is that it is a store stencil built by Lyon & Healy or Gulbransen. Gulbransen was more apt to do this as L&H was more proprietary with their brand.
Posted By: Chloe J. Scott

Re: Piano History/value? - 10/26/13 04:54 AM

Their value is only what someone would pay you for it. With an old piano, unless it's something desirable (i.e. Steinway or such), you'd have a hard time finding anybody to pay anything for it. Most likely it's value is less than zero because it would cost you money to have it removed, assuming that you wanted it to be, which is probably why it was left behind in the first place. But if you think it's just peachy and decided to keep it then the value would be irrelevant.
Posted By: Minnesota Marty

Re: Piano History/value? - 10/26/13 12:25 PM

I think I may have found something.

There is a very good chance that it was built by Cable Piano Company (founded 1880). This is going back to when it was the parent company of various smaller companies, many of which carried "Cable" in their name. In 1890, the company consolidated with Conover and later purchased Schiller. Schiller was their top of the line product, but they produced many other "brands" including the Kingsbury, Conover, and Wellington. They also produced a fair number of 'stencils' for local stores.

My best guess is that the piano is a Conover-Cable and most likely marketed by a music store carrying the name of "Leeds."

Twertsy, are you able to provide additional photos? A full shot of the piano, a photo of the plate (metal frame), and the name, if any, on the key cover (fallboard), would be helpful. (Both of the photos you provided were the same.

I hope you don't mind, I've added the photo here.
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