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In my attempts at self-teaching, I have done a considerable amount of reading about music theory as an adjunct to my early-lesson practice.

I understand most of what I have read about chord construction, even though I remember little of it, and can do even less.

The construction of basic chords (Major, Minor, Augmented, Diminished, 7th, etc.) seems fairly straightforward. And I understand the concept of inversions, and that sometimes notes are eliminated while still preserving the same chord.

What I wonder about is the inverse. If I see a scale containing, say, three/four note chords, how do I go about identifying the name of the chord? Is it necessary to memorize all the notes of all the chords, as well as all their possible inversions?

Or is their some simpler heuristic that that I haven't yet found to simplify the task? (Thankfully, a lot of sheet music provides the names of the chords).


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usually, a chord will include the 7th and the 3rd.
So what you do is start by identifying the possible chords.

For example, if I play Gb C and F
what chord can it be.

If Gb is the 3rd, then C would be the 7th. That makes a nice D7 with a #9

If Gb is the 7th, then C is the 3rd, and that makes a nice Ab7 with with a 13th in it.

F can't be a 3rd or 7th because F# is 1/2 above.

So there you go, the chord is either D7 or Ab7.

They happen to be a tritone apart, which is normal for dom. 7th chords.

Try it with this chord:
Ab C Db and F
what chords could it be?

hope this helps

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I don't know if this is the answer you are looking for, but it is a method that is helpful in identifying chords that are not in a readily-identifiable form, i.e. the notes are mixed up, which occurs often.

First, eliminate any redundant notes.

Next, group the notes together as closely as possible.

See if you can identify what you have.

If not, take the bottom note and put it on the top. For example, if you have A, middle C, E, and G, take the A and put it above the G.

Now you have C, E, G, and A. The C-E-G is a C major root triad; the A is the 6th tone; The chord is a C6.

If putting the bottom note on the top does not reveal the chord, keep doing it for the same number of notes, i.e. 4 notes, 4 inversions.

Often what you do have is a chord, with a note that does not fit any conventional chord. For example, you might have C-E-G-F#, which is not, to my knowledge, a chord. In that case, what you have is a chord, (c-e-g) and a melody note which is the note that does not fit.

Hope this helps.


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Or the notes A, middle C, E, and G, could also be an Am7 chord in root position.

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That was such an easy one I missed it!


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Originally posted by knotty: Try it with this chord:
Ab C Db and F
what chords could it be?
Bb minor 7 comes to mind quickly. I use that one a lot for my left hand closed voicing.

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It is a Db maj7. smile


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Second inversion.


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Originally posted by knotty:
usually, a chord will include the 7th and the 3rd.
I'm curious why you say this--maybe in some music, but I don't think that's generally the case at all.

I like rocket88's description, that's pretty much how I do it. It gets faster with practice, and with chord familiarity. After a while, you will have memorized the simpler chords, but I still have to work through possibilities for some of the trickier chords. Also: if you know the key of the piece, often the chords that show up will be the I, IV, V, V7, and relative minors, so I keep an eye out for those as the first options.

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Glen, what kind of sheet music are you working with?
If you are reading both clefs you may have good luck identifying the base note as the root of the chord. Not always but it should be in there somewhere, usually at count one.

Thirds and sevenths are the "essential chord notes" in jazz and rarely will you see a chord without those two notes. Of course the third and the seventh move around a bit so you still have to do some analysis.


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