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#983808 - 12/03/06 08:20 PM Re: Your greatest frustration  
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Monica already posted the one that's my current nemesis:

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Not being able to play worth a darn when that Red Dot is going...
Recording is like playing in a live recital with your worst critic sitting right beside you. Maybe the more you do it the esier it becomes. We'll see.

Here is a recording I made earlier today of Chopin's "Suffocation" Prelude. The tempo is a little too fast and it may have other problems as well, but it's the best I could muster at the time with that red-eyed monster close by.

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#983809 - 12/04/06 12:18 AM Re: Your greatest frustration  
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Hoping for a cure …

Record Relapse Disorder (RRD) . . . when the “record” light goes on, playing ability is severely regressed . . . relapse is to an earlier stage of skill, talent and piano experience (pre-natal in extreme cases) . . .

Pedal Abuse Syndrome (PAS) . . . in contact with a piano pedal (may also occur in vehicular contexts), sudden-onset increase in foot-bone density, mass and weight . . . also known as “anvil foot” . . .

Tympanic Membrane Playback Cacophony Distress (TMPCD) . . . a secondary complication of having both RRD and PAS . . . acute eardrum pain induced by playback of recordings of jarring, pedal-sustained, wrong-note dissonance.

#983810 - 12/04/06 02:30 AM Re: Your greatest frustration  
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Mike,

It appears as though I may be doing great harm to myself trying to drive that 600 pound beast around the living room. Not only is it causing severe syndromes to me...taking me back to the womb, club foot, ruined ears...but I may harm the neighbors as well if I lose control and break through a wall. Heaven forbid I'd flatten them out and need to call an ambualnce to haul them away to the hospital for physical and emotional emergency care. Perhaps it's best that I leave the beast alone and quiet. My, my, what a terrible couple of days for me.

What's your advice Doc?



#983811 - 12/04/06 08:12 AM Re: Your greatest frustration  
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You forgot the Teacher Relapse Disorder and related Shaky Hands.

Positively giggling...

Patty


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#983812 - 12/04/06 10:52 AM Re: Your greatest frustration  
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Originally posted by Lisztener:
Mike,

It appears as though I may be doing great harm to myself trying to drive that 600 pound beast around the living room. Not only is it causing severe syndromes to me...taking me back to the womb, club foot, ruined ears...but I may harm the neighbors as well if I lose control and break through a wall. Heaven forbid I'd flatten them out and need to call an ambualnce to haul them away to the hospital for physical and emotional emergency care. Perhaps it's best that I leave the beast alone and quiet. My, my, what a terrible couple of days for me.

What's your advice Doc?
Your words, Lisztener, evidence the appropriately tortured soul of a musician . . . however, your posted recordings show no signs of RRD/PAS/TMPCD. Let the beast sing!

#983813 - 12/04/06 11:00 AM Re: Your greatest frustration  
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quarter note triplets in the RH played against 2 quarter notes in the LH

#983814 - 12/04/06 11:31 AM Re: Your greatest frustration  
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Interesting thread. A few years ago I was listening to Ludovico Einaudi on Classic FM, playing Le Onde and I thought, hmm, I can play that. So I ordered the sheet music book and well.. perhaps I just play the uppernotes with the RH. SLOWLY. So I started with "Passagio" . After a few weeks fiddling away I heard it the way it should be played and I almost fell from the pianobench. Aaargh, it was played at least 4 times faster than I did. So there's the difference: I can play it in my head but somehow the signal from the brain ...gets lost.. on its...way ... to the...hands...
So, that my frustration. Anyway, what's wrong with playing a boogie woogie like a lullaby, as long as I like the way it sounds to me?
Lately there was a thread about "sad pieces, melancholy, flats" etc. Well, my pieces sound melancholic even played with sharps laugh

#983815 - 12/04/06 12:20 PM Re: Your greatest frustration  
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Lisztener,

You play the Prelude beautifully!

But where did you get that awful name for it?

I think your tempo is just right for this piece.

Please consider posting your link in the "Totally Devoted To Chopin" thread.

Otherwise your wonderful recording is just going to get quickly buried here.

Thanks for posting your terrific playing.

Mel


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#983816 - 12/04/06 12:56 PM Re: Your greatest frustration  
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Lisztner: Very nice on the prelude. It's one of my favorites, maybe because it's one of 6 that I can play. Did you get a clue for the name because Chopin had an extreme fear of being buried alive (as did his father)?

Yes, please do post it one the Totally Devoted to Chopin Thread for all us "avid fans" to hear.

Kathleen


After playing Chopin, I feel as if I had been weeping over sins that I had never committed, and mourning over tragedies that were not my own." Oscar Wilde, 1891
#983817 - 12/04/06 01:24 PM Re: Your greatest frustration  
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My greatest frustration is....
getting frustrated.

Too many things to list as far as frustrations go... so I won't bother to list them.

My current frustration is figuring out a way to situate my keyboard comfortably in from of my computer station. Anybody have a picture or can describe how they made their music workstations comfy and easy to navigate around?


I have my own weapon of mass destruction in the form of a "teenage" German Shepherd. Anything she spies and can get ahold of is fair game.
#983818 - 12/04/06 07:48 PM Re: Your greatest frustration  
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I'm in the process of making up that list. So now's the time to get your 2 cents although I think we're pretty much covered it all.


After playing Chopin, I feel as if I had been weeping over sins that I had never committed, and mourning over tragedies that were not my own." Oscar Wilde, 1891
#983819 - 12/04/06 08:53 PM Re: Your greatest frustration  
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Kathleen and Mel,

Thank you for your kind words on my play and advice to post in the "Just for those totally devoted to Chopin" thread.

I'll post information there about the names given to Chopin's Preludes.



#983820 - 12/04/06 10:42 PM Re: Your greatest frustration  
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growing older is very sad
we will miss the things we've had

we wake and it's another day
yesterday has slipped away

with every taken breath
we are closer to our death

i know that there will come a day
when i'll lack the competence to play.


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#983821 - 12/05/06 06:45 AM Re: Your greatest frustration  
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Ah, but life's a dream
A moment's breath
A whispered sigh
There is no death

In darkness or light
As night follows day
So music lingers
Before it fades.


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#983822 - 12/05/06 07:00 AM Re: Your greatest frustration  
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My greatest frustration is all the seconds, minutes and hours of my life that I am forced to spend on other things than music. frown

And, Matt, I would also like to add, popular adults ! mad

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#983823 - 12/05/06 09:52 AM Re: Your greatest frustration  
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I have another one - that nobody bothers to really listen and understand when we talk about it (I could spend hours on that, actually it is not surprising :rolleyes: , except of course and luckily this outstanding forum.

Patty


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#983824 - 12/05/06 10:51 AM Re: Your greatest frustration  
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Yeah...those eyes glaze over all the time when I talk music. Except at lessons!


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#983825 - 12/05/06 02:12 PM Re: Your greatest frustration  
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Just had a lesson. My most frustrating thing still is how poorly I can sometimes (ahem ...often) play at a lesson.... I want to play well after all the practice during the week but it usually falls apart, if not right away then, half way through...grrrrrr


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#983826 - 12/06/06 12:46 PM Re: Your greatest frustration  
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My biggest frustration is having an old injury flare up and hinder my progress. Health obviously comes first, so better to cut back on practice or choose less technical pieces until the problem clears. Not that it's a very bad injury at this point... But better safe than sorry frown .

#983827 - 12/06/06 01:52 PM Re: Your greatest frustration  
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Pianolina: So good to hear from you. I hope you are OK.

Best regards,
Kathleen


After playing Chopin, I feel as if I had been weeping over sins that I had never committed, and mourning over tragedies that were not my own." Oscar Wilde, 1891
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