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#961535 - 11/24/08 03:29 AM Re: I forgot my music again…  
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I'm not sure what you mean by "classical arrangements". But if someone is arranging something, you are more than free to do whatever you want, yourself. Because someone else already did. smile


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#961536 - 11/24/08 03:53 AM Re: I forgot my music again…  
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Nevermind, I don't know either frown . I'm very tired. I'll try to make sense of your message in the morning.

#961537 - 11/26/08 03:33 AM Re: I forgot my music again…  
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Consider this possibility.
When a student forgets his music, you can simply let him read from your score, if you have it, which you almost certainly should. You don't need to even give a lecture. Or harbour any ill feelings.

#961538 - 11/26/08 04:24 AM Re: I forgot my music again…  
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No ill feelings?!

What about the ones who forget their theory, and their music, at least 2/3 classes?

I love it when students forget their music it because they left it by their instrument--it means they practiced! (Naturally, I'd prefer if they practiced and brought it with them to class so we can mark it up some more.)

#961539 - 11/26/08 08:45 AM Re: I forgot my music again…  
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Hehe, my music once separated from the cover and I brought the cover to my lesson. The dumbfounded look on both our faces as the cover was carefully opened and smoothed to reveal nothingness must have been priceless. laugh We decided that I should played what would be there if it were there because we guessed that I probably had memorized some, and could extrapolate more of the rest. Then for the remaining time (I have hour long lessons) we worked on something invented on the fly. There are so many aspects to music one can explore - ear training, for example.

#961540 - 11/26/08 03:20 PM Re: I forgot my music again…  
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We’re beating about the bush chaps ... the underlying reason for having forgot the music is because the student can’t sight-read, hates sight-reading and subconsciously (or not) hopes that the apparent lapse in forgetfulness will ease the lesson torture of having to continue with sight-reading.
Not really...

Those who always forget to bring the theory book--they didn't do their theory homework! I have many copies of theory worksheets, so they will just have to do them during the lesson.

Those who always forget to bring the repertoire books--they didn't practice the pieces in those books. They'll just use my book and work on two measures.

Those who always forget to bring their technique books--they hate the scales, chord progressions, etc. I'll just make them write it all out by hand. I have plenty of staff paper.

Those who always bring the wrong books--they think you won't be as mad if they did it "by mistake" and grabbed the wrong book; they also didn't practice those pieces.

If my students hate sight reading (a few do), I'll just give them sight reading tests at every lesson and grade them. Then I'll post their grades for all to see.

Always follow through with a consequence.


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#961541 - 11/26/08 06:13 PM Re: I forgot my music again…  
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This is what I wrote to start this thread:
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How do the rest of you handle the situation when students show up with no music?
I know that I put "again" in the title, but I did not have in mind students who usually or frequently come to lessons without music.

I've had one student forget music twice over the last few months.

If I found that my students were not bringing materials in to avoid playing them, I would have to re-think the way I teach.


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#961542 - 11/26/08 06:51 PM Re: I forgot my music again…  
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Those who always forget to bring the repertoire books--they didn't practice the pieces in those books. They'll just use my book and work on two measures.

Those who always forget to bring their technique books--they hate the scales, chord progressions, etc. I'll just make them write it all out by hand. I have plenty of staff paper.

Those who always bring the wrong books--they think you won't be as mad if they did it "by mistake" and grabbed the wrong book; they also didn't practice those pieces.

If my students hate sight reading (a few do), I'll just give them sight reading tests at every lesson and grade them. Then I'll post their grades for all to see.

Always follow through with a consequence.
How effective are your methods AZN? ( I don't mean in a negative way necessarily.. just curious)

#961543 - 11/27/08 08:41 AM Re: I forgot my music again…  
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Woah AZN piano, that shoulds very strict ... you must make a great teacher! I always bring the right materials because it becomes a routine, my mum used to check with me to make sure that I brought all the right books.

Now that I am older I don't forget, once or twice I have forgotten my notebook but no dramas there I just write notes on a separate sheet of paper. I don't often bring my technique book, as my teacher expects scales and exercises to be memorised by the week.

Maybe its just time to lessen the load so then students won't bring the wrong book. Once I did forget my music, my teacher had his own copy, that is one way of not having a student

How many books do you have your students bring? I normally keep photocopies in one folder, leaving the books I brought at home. It doesn't breech copyright as far as I am aware as its for my own use and I do have authentic copies. I usually end up only bringing two books, my notebook and folder.

What if you lessened the load ... ?

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