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#951842 - 05/29/08 05:44 AM Levels and Grades ?  
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For those with experience in teaching multiple methods and/or own materials: is there much consistency of "Levels" between standard modern kid's books (Faber, Bastien, Alfred, Thompson etc) ? Are "Grades" and "Years" comparable with them ? or do these differ by country and the organization setting standards ? I've seen ABSRM mentioned.
Also, the Adult methods use a different scale ? I've seen Faber Adult Piano Adventures book 2 considered as equivalent to Level 3 (or 4?) but Alfred as harder.

Or, one may argue it's little relevant to compress a multidimensional set of skills into one linear dimension ?
'Principal Component Analysis' in statistics says one can find a few (1-2-3) well chosen dimensions to represent much richer associations of facts, but some information is necessarily lost.

For instance, I know well what 1/16 and 1/32 look like and mean, and how to build triads in every key, but to play them consistently by reading in real time it's another matter...

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#951843 - 05/29/08 06:23 AM Re: Levels and Grades ?  
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Don't even waste a second trying to find any consistency. One of our English language music magazines, Clavier, divides all piano music into six grades.

One of my favorite series divides Clavier's grades 1 through 4 into 11 grades. Thus, you might assume that altogether, you might have 20 grades.

But even with this extreme division, I find the difficulties within a grade to span sufficient range of difficulty that a publisher could easily have 40 levels.

You've heard me extol the virtues of the Piano Guild for American teachers. They recognize 6 elementary levels, 6 intermediate levels, 4 high school (preparatory) levels, and 4 collegiate levels. There is repertoire compression on the upper two divisions, but they expect more serious study.


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#951844 - 05/29/08 12:55 PM Re: Levels and Grades ?  
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I agree with John --

One publisher's "late elementary" is another's "intermediate."

ABRSM's 3-4 is RCME's 2-3, or is it the other way around?!? confused


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