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#941161 - 03/27/08 02:11 PM "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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Please share the names of pieces that have saved your teen male students from quitting.

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#941162 - 03/27/08 02:16 PM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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:S i have yet to find one. Unfortunatly all my male students want to play things that don't really transcirbe to piano (like Metallica :S) and even if we CAN find something to play on the piano it is usually a much higher piece. Sorry i'm not help! frown


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#941163 - 03/27/08 02:26 PM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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So much depends on the student. Is he technically advanced enough to play "Kitten on the Keys?" The piece which kept me going in HS was Pictures at an Exhibition. There couldn't be two pieces more different, yet equally demanding - everyone marches to a different drummer.

So, help us out a bit. What level is your student at? What genre do you think would tickle his fancy?

John


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#941164 - 03/27/08 03:15 PM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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If he is advanced enough and is like 99.9999999% of teen boys, he would probably be interested in playing some of the music from his favorite video games. Loud and fast music might interest him, too.

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I had a teen boy who wanted to play Chopin's Raindrop Prelude because it was used in a Halo 3 commercial. Rachmaninoff is also a hit with boys. Beethoven's Tempest would be good for them too.

There are some pretty difficult arrangements of videogame music, like from Super Mario, that would be demanding and also interesting for teenagers.

For the ones who are not so advanced, Grieg's "Little Troll" would be good for them. I remember loving that as a kid, though I wasn't a boy. Schubert impromptus wouldn't be bad either.


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#941166 - 03/27/08 03:57 PM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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Just thinking out loud, but if there are musical renditions of movie hits loved by him (say, "Lord of the Rings", wonderful motives there..) this might keep him interested and at the same time be easier to find than a videogame tune.


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#941167 - 03/27/08 05:07 PM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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It was video video game music that started and kept my teenage son involved with the piano. So much so, that he now composes music for video games, theater and video productions.

Mention the game series "Final Fantasy" to your student and I'm sure his eyes will light up. You can find free solo piano arrangement sheet music here:

http://ffmusic.ffshrine.org/

Published version of the music for several games can be ordered from:

http://www.gamemusic.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/GMOStore

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#941168 - 03/27/08 05:15 PM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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Try stuff by Timothy Brown ("Toccatina" or "Song for Elise") and Kevin Olson ("Sonatina in Flight"). If the student likes romantic/melodic stuff, try Melody Bober ("Romanze" or "Midnight Rhapsody").

Jazz, Rags, and Blues books by Martha Mier are interesting/pleasing to students who aren't serious about piano.


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#941169 - 03/27/08 05:34 PM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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A very good site for boys...

http://www.pianothemes.com

Try some Eric Baumgartner stuff as well.

And a shameless plug for some of my books... (with some free samples - Gidget's Gadgets and Walkin' the Dog are popular with the boys...)

http://www.danielmcfarlane.com/main/page_supersonics.html

Most of these pieces were composed for students that didn't like the "normal" repertoire.

#941170 - 03/27/08 06:24 PM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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My 8th grade male student purchased some music from "Pirates of the Carribean" and realy enjoyed learning it.


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#941171 - 03/27/08 07:36 PM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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Star Wars theme was a great hit for many of the boys I have taught. For both girls and boys, cartoon music and Charlie Brown theme.

I always ask all of my students to think of pieces they want to play. Most settle on movie themes.

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Or give him ideas of pieces or songs that will impress his girlfriend.


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#941173 - 03/27/08 09:08 PM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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How about Raiders March. Actually anything from John Williams.


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#941174 - 03/27/08 09:39 PM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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What about the Infernal Galop? Any galop in fact or a polka laugh


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#941175 - 03/27/08 10:03 PM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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If they like classical music and they've got the chops, selections from Prokofiev's Romeo & Juliet suite would fill the bill, especially Montagues & Capulets.

I like the Pirates suggestion. That certainly captured mine's attention at age 11-12.

#941176 - 03/27/08 10:30 PM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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Dan.mc, plug away! Thanks for sharing your music! Your music is creative and fun to play. I believe it would appeal to my teen student. Anything in the works for young beginners?

#941177 - 03/27/08 10:44 PM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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Hi Lillystar, thanks for the plug! Book 1 has pieces that beginners can handle once they are familiar with C-G in both hands. I should have the recordings for all the books done soon...

Ps http://www.pianothemes.com/ has a good arrangement of the Pirates of the Caribbean music

Also, Philip Glass' piano music is great for boys - they seem to love minimalism!

#941178 - 03/27/08 11:38 PM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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If there was such a thing as a piano teacher that teaches a course on video game music, I'd pay extra. laugh

#941179 - 03/28/08 12:54 AM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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Definitely video game music, if you can find it. Pirates of the Caribbean is always a favorite for boys and girls. Boys also really like Melody Bober's Sonatina of the High Seas. Kevin Olsen's Machines on the Loose is great too. Check out Dennis Alexander as well.

Duets and ensembles go the extra mile in keeping boys interested in piano. Girls love them too, of course, but I've kept boys in lessons by adding more duets when nothing else worked. This works best if you can pair two boys together. Or if the
boy has a bit of a crush on his female partner. Hmm, that probably works even better.

#941180 - 03/28/08 01:42 AM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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I think if you pair up a boy with a girl he has a crush on, then he'll decrease in performance during lessons due to distractions.

However, I would think his home practice would skyrocket since he'll be determined to impress the girl by playing better. laugh

#941181 - 03/28/08 06:37 AM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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If there was such a thing as a piano teacher that teaches a course on video game music, I'd pay extra. laugh
In June I am actually having a themed recital. The theme is videogame and pop music.

Yeah, I'm excited.


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the thing that actuall saved me from quitting was music from bortkiewicz, i dont know if he likes classical but its worth a shot

Zac


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#941183 - 03/28/08 10:45 AM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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Thanks so much all. Great ideas for my 15 year old struggling son.

#941184 - 03/29/08 11:28 PM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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Before teachers shrug off video game music...
It's a wonderful genre that is an actual profession in Japan. It sounds trivial over here, but it's quality music.


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#941185 - 03/29/08 11:49 PM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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I'm certainly not shrugging it off, and I'm a teacher.


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#941186 - 03/30/08 02:55 AM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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Polonaise in g minor by Chopin is a great classical piece if your son has been playing piano for a while. It sounds harder than it is and is great fun to play.

All great ideas here...

I might add some stride piano, like the Entertainer or Linus and Lucy Theme.


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#941187 - 04/01/08 10:24 PM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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I'm certainly not shrugging it off, and I'm a teacher.
Oh I definetly wasn't directing that at you, or anyone. Simply at anyone reading this topic who was unaware of the video game music scene.

Sorry for that confusion frown


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#941188 - 04/02/08 07:29 PM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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What worked for me at that age was being encouraged to accompany a choir in my high school, which was 80% girls. I nearly wet my bench the first time I was asked to accompany one of them solo. (Will never forget it, a Sheena Easton song, "Almost Over You.") Just swapped emails two days ago with one of my lovely teenybopper pageturners, in fact.*

Worked in college too.

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*Facebook is amazing. Yikes, no longer teeny nor all that lovely! Well, me neither.

#941189 - 04/04/08 07:52 AM Re: "pupil saver" pieces for teen boys...please recommend.  
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I am a teenage boy, so I can speak from experience.

I can't recommend (actually already posted) music from the Final Fantasy Piano collections album enough, specifically the battle themes One Winged Angel, Fighting from FFVII, and the final battle of final fantasy IX

You can download them from this website (also posted before)

http://ffmusic.ffshrine.org/ff7sheet/ff7-sheet-music.php

Scroll down to the piano collections music, the sheet music at the top is extremely basic. The piano collections albums have been arranged to be 'listened' to and the harder pieces would be, I guess around AMEB grade 6-8.

Prelude in C Sharp Minor is a classical example I think is quite impressive. Generally any grandiose piece of music will appeal; Just make sure it can be played well, of course!

I'd have to say if people are playing at this level I'm not sure why they'd want to quit.

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Great recital idea, Minaku! I've done the pop tunes theme before, but I know nothing about the video games, and so Cameron's post is very helpful.
I wish somewhere there was a compilation of cell phone ringtones. That would be fun, even for the beginning and elementary students.

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I don't know if I could take too many cell phone ringtones! Though I myself have taught a couple of enterprising students the Nokia bird and the Motorola "Are you there?" tone.


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Originally posted by Piano*Dad:
If they like classical music and they've got the chops, selections from Prokofiev's Romeo & Juliet suite would fill the bill, especially Montagues & Capulets.

I like the Pirates suggestion. That certainly captured mine's attention at age 11-12.
Also Beethoven's Bagatelles can appeal.

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If both teacher and student have a sense of rhythm and the student likes (or is open to) a latin sound there is some very fun latin (dance) music out there.

You could start with something easy like the "Rumba" duet from Gerard Hengeveld (10 Rythmical Dances) to start getting the hang of it.

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Here's an interesting rendition of the Super Mario Brothers theme (the second tune in the video, starting at 4:28 or so):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuHEj64_GLY

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I just edited my post, can't recommend enough*. The piano collections pieces are awesome :p .

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Rachmaninoff G-minor prelude! Technical, challenging, aggressive (can you say Testosterone?)
flashy, macho....


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