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#918048 - 09/03/08 06:37 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?  
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#918049 - 09/03/08 06:40 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?  
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I like it but my piano teacher has the same opinion as miss sharon.


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#918050 - 09/03/08 07:07 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?  
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It is a littlt bit too "rock" for me. I know a good one. It is more classical and romantic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ7y0f5gfzo

#918051 - 10/02/08 12:12 AM Re: fur elise: love/hate?  
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Absoballylutley love that song!!


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#918052 - 10/02/08 12:53 AM Re: fur elise: love/hate?  
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I hate it because almost everyone loves to play it, and as a teacher I do get sick of hearing, when it is played badly—which is usually the case.

I love it because *if* I can teach someone to play it, that "someone" is usually very pleased.

I hate it because "everyone plays" it.

But I love the fact that now and then someone who is famous will take a chance and peform it, for instance Pogorelich:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQTTFUtMSvQ

I don't agree that it's easy either. It's easy to play it, but not play it well. Section B and C take considerable finesse. It's quite difficult to play, in public, because anyone who plays well is ready to laugh at you if you can't pull it off.


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#918053 - 10/26/08 10:40 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?  
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I have to agree with everyone saying how much I am starting to despise it, but it is just one of those pieces when I am having a rough time practicing something it just comes out of me all of a sudden I am doing the 2nd part of it trying to over exaggerate it on purpose.

I play it horribly wrong on purpose, sometimes I do it for the kids and do all kids of funky things with it that make them laugh since everyone knows how it goes it makes it comical.

However, because I know how much all the kids want to learn it, I grit my teeth and bear it... smile


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#918054 - 11/03/08 07:37 AM Re: fur elise: love/hate?  
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I have learnt Fur Elise. It's a great piece, a little overplayed nonetheless.


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#918055 - 01/12/09 08:33 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?  
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I think that too much of a good thing isn't a good thing. Learned it in the early 50's and loved it but after all this time and listening to inexperienced players it has all the charm of a second week violin students mistakes.


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#918056 - 01/12/09 08:46 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?  
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I think that too much of a good thing isn't a good thing. Learned it in the early 50's and loved it but after all this time and listening to inexperienced players it has all the charm of a second week violin students mistakes.
Or, as the eminent contemporary philosopher John Mayer puts it, "twice as much ain't twice as good..."

I've never worked on the piece because it was just never assigned by any of my teachers. I love Beethoven, but Fur Elise is pretty far down the list of his works I would take up by choice.


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#918057 - 01/14/09 03:36 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?  
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Oddly, I have no feelings either way.
I can play it but I don't love it, I don't hate it. Is that weird?


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#918058 - 01/24/09 01:13 AM Re: fur elise: love/hate?  
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Hey it's one of the few classical pieces I still sort of remember from before I started writing my own stuff and playing Top 40...

As classical goes it is one of the few pieces I can still stand and play once in a while... :p

~Trev

#918059 - 02/12/09 08:33 AM Re: fur elise: love/hate?  
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I've read through the piece, but never cared to learn it. I don't care for it, not only because it's overplayed, but just because I don't like it.

In fact, I don't particularly care for Beethoven eek

Is that sacrilege in these parts? wink


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#1169358 - 03/26/09 05:27 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate? [Re: Reeds'n'Keys]  
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I'm 14.
I love playing Fur Elise. I have to disagree with those who claim it's easy. Sections B and C are difficult when played correctly.
Sometimes I hear other kids play Fur Elise, and they ruin the piece. They put no emotion into their playing. They play like robots. Playing without dynamics they sound like a monotone voice. When played right, I think it is ONE of the most beautiful pieces Beethoven wrote.

#1169407 - 03/26/09 07:09 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate? [Re: amylee]  
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Originally Posted by amylee
I am a digital piano salesperson, and I have to say Fur Elise is the most common piece played by customers in the store where I work. At first, I liked it, but now I am developing a nervous tic when I hear the opening strains of the thing! If anyone could play the whole thing, it would be less annoying. But most people play the first phrase OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER again...well, you get the idea. I never knew how many ways you can play that melody wrong!!! pLEASE HELP ME!!


Must suck to be a piano sales person with all the lookie loos. smile



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#1169410 - 03/26/09 07:29 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate? [Re: kennychaffin]  
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Yes, overplayed. But it is overplayed and over-assigned to beginning and intermediate piano students the way that Emily Dickinson's poems are regularly anthologized for children, and one completely misses the power of her lines. I've played it and my son is now learning it -- which, I admit, is trying. What I keep in the back of my head is hearing Ivo Pogorelich, about 25 years ago, opening a San Francisco recital with Fur Elise. In the hands of a great pianist, it almost sounded like a different piece. What I find absolutely unbearable are the simplified versions (or the simplified versions of the so-called Moonlight sonata -- even worse!). Still, if either brings the beginner to a love of Beethoven, I suppose that's all for the good.

#1179577 - 04/13/09 12:59 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate? [Re: try861]  
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I have a list of "DO NOT TEACH" pieces in my studio. One of them is Fur Elise. I refuse to teach it even when my students beg for it. A few others are: Mozart Alla Turca, and Bach Minuet in G major. Totally overplayed, hacked, and played in every "interpretation" possible.


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#1179579 - 04/13/09 01:02 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate? [Re: asiantraveller101]  
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BTW I like this piece, no matter how many times I've heard it.

So there! smile



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#1181935 - 04/16/09 11:27 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate? [Re: miss sharon]  
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It is overplayed BADLY. but if it played nicely it is a very nice piece.

I learned it because when you are nine that is the epic song to be able to play.....

dont love... dont hate....like on ocassion


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#1188407 - 04/27/09 02:20 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate? [Re: miss sharon]  
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i like it, enjoyed learning it


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#1357744 - 01/25/10 02:12 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate? [Re: daydreamer8927]  
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I like it when played correctly and doesnt sound like a robot on a casio


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#1358084 - 01/25/10 10:10 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate? [Re: miss sharon]  
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fur elise is beautiful.

The problem isnt with the piece is that most beginner music sounds like crap.

I wish beethovan had written an entire series of beginner pieces, how wonderful would that have been. You know, like those beautiful cello etudes by bach, the six suites for the unaccompanied cello.

The striking thing about fur elise is not that it is overplayed, but that great composers have absolutely fallen down in their duty to write simple but beautiful music.

#1359369 - 01/27/10 01:15 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate? [Re: asiantraveller101]  
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Originally Posted by asiantraveller101
A few others are: Mozart Alla Turca, [...] Totally overplayed, hacked, and played in every "interpretation" possible.

Know this interpretation?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXPAAI3Q9wA

#1359733 - 01/27/10 08:59 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate? [Re: Reeds'n'Keys]  
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Originally Posted by Reeds'n'Keys
it.

In fact, I don't particularly care for Beethoven eek

Is that sacrilege in these parts? wink



It seems that Chopin is the only composer exempt from anything even remotely critical on these forums.

#1359894 - 01/28/10 12:16 AM Re: fur elise: love/hate? [Re: miss sharon]  
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It depends on who's playing it. I can't stand playing it myself though laugh


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#1369976 - 02/10/10 06:47 AM Re: fur elise: love/hate? [Re: keydancer]  
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Played sensitively, it is great (maybe not quite the way Beet would have done it himself).


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I think it's a beautiful piece, when played correctly with changes in the dynamics. Parts of it are easy but there are a couple of areas that require a little bit of work. Listening to it over and over being played by students I would have to say would bother me quite a bit.


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#1413085 - 04/07/10 04:39 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate? [Re: B Sharp Major]  
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Five children. Two sisters. One piano. Two ears. All those notes repeating themselves and repeating themselves and repeating themselves and repeating themselves and repeating themselves and repeating themselves

#1418823 - 04/17/10 03:46 AM Re: fur elise: love/hate? [Re: MamaHenn]  
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I only like the 'hard' parts of this piece. the di de di di di di di da I can do without. It gets repeated in the piece too often and is annoying.

In fact I can do without all the things that people play who don't play the piano.

It's always either the very first section of fur elise (no left hand)

The intro to chopsticks.

Rolling their knuckles on the black keys; btw does any one know what this is called? Or if it even has a name.

Or they play either the bass section or the treble section of heart and soul.


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I love it if played well with expression. If played at the same volume continuously with no expression put into it, then it can be very tedious. Unfortunately many pianist are taught to play it fairly early in their development and they don't play it with the required expression and nuance required to make it musical.


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#1422283 - 04/22/10 09:14 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate? [Re: RayE]  
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Love or Hate ?? I havent read all the posts but I cant imagine anyone who plays piano actually hating it! youd have to feel particulary strongly about it to hate it lol

plus despite how popular it is and how over played it is etc etc dont we all have a somewhat fond memory of the first time we heard it ? I wouldnt be surprised, given how ubiquitous it is, if it wasnt for most people their first introduction to not only the sound of a piano but indeed classical music in general.

for that reason alone I have to love it smile


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