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Re: Most Difficult Piano PIece? #915829
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I'd put in a vote for the Prokofiev 2nd concerto as well...that thing is a BEAST...and not only physcially taxing, but emotionally very draining.


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Re: Most Difficult Piano PIece? #915830
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Cage's 4:33. (At least for my daughter -- she could NEVER manage it. wink )
laugh lol, I don't think that I could either at times. laugh


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Re: Most Difficult Piano PIece? #915831
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Cage's 4:33. (At least for my daughter -- she could NEVER manage it. wink )
I have my daughter practice this one in short sections, put them together, and after a lot of patient work, she can "play" it perfectly!

Re: Most Difficult Piano PIece? #915832
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Horowitzs Carmen Variations are certainly pretty tricky, while maybe not the most difficult ever it is certainly the most flashy and show-offy.
IMO the Carmen Variatons are among the easier (relatively speaking) and least flashy of the Horowitz transcriptons.

Re: Most Difficult Piano PIece? #915833
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Originally posted by pianoloverus:
IMO the Carmen Variations are among the easier (relatively speaking) and least flashy of the Horowitz transcriptions.
He makes it sound easy, but I guarantee that it's not. Executing double notes pp at 120 isn't easy for many people.

Re: Most Difficult Piano PIece? #915834
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the hardest piece is....to play the same jazz piano number and REPEAT it note-for-note later! I have great respect for jazz pianists who tend to be creative smile

didn't play enough to know what is truly difficult, but rather than giving up on a difficult piece altogether, I usually find myself getting stuck in a few small parts or phrases that just seem impossible to me...


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Re: Most Difficult Piano PIece? #915835
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[b]IMO the Carmen Variations are among the easier (relatively speaking) and least flashy of the Horowitz transcriptions.
He makes it sound easy, but I guarantee that it's not. Executing double notes pp at 120 isn't easy for many people.[/b]
But don't you think it's easier than his transcriptions of Hungarian Rhapsodie No.2,
Rakoczy March, Dance Macabre, Wedding March, and Stars and Stripes?

Re: Most Difficult Piano PIece? #915836
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Actually, I think Liszt made the Saint-Saens transcription.

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[b]IMO the Carmen Variations are among the easier (relatively speaking) and least flashy of the Horowitz transcriptions.
He makes it sound easy, but I guarantee that it's not. Executing double notes pp at 120 isn't easy for many people.[/b]
It's easy for me. In fact, if I play the entire piece for you, I'm sure you'll agree it has been executed! smile (Where do I get all these terrible jokes from, anyway?)


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Re: Most Difficult Piano PIece? #915838
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Originally posted by Praetorian_AD:
Actually, I think Liszt made the Saint-Saens transcription.
And then Horowitz revised/added to etc.the Liszt transcription. When Horowitz plays this piece, it's listed as being by Saint-Saens/Liszt/Horowitz.

Re: Most Difficult Piano PIece? #915839
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Gryphon,

You really ought to give Villa-Lobos a try. Try to find a copy of his Ciclo Brasileiros or Prole do Bébé Volume I. He throws all sorts of touches and rhythms at you, the full range of emotions and it's fun, fun, FUN!

Drews

PS -- my problem is that I never thoroughly *learn* any piece of music. There's so much great repertoire out there to try out...

Re: Most Difficult Piano PIece? #915840
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Originally posted by pianoloverus:
But don't you think it's easier than his transcriptions of Hungarian Rhapsodie No.2,
Rakoczy March, Dance Macabre, Wedding March, and Stars and Stripes?
Loud and fast = easy

Soft and fast != easy

Re: Most Difficult Piano PIece? [Re: Orlando Gibbons] #2560227
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Originally Posted by Orlando Gibbons
I'll go with an oldie - comparatively speaking - Feux Follets. Especially in the 2nd version of the transcendental etudes. Rachmaninoff thought this to be the most difficult piece, too.


Agreed. I attempted the piece and managed to get 2 or 3 pages down without much trouble, but to get it up to par and at the required speed AS WELL AS playing with musicality and managing to keep a light touch is a feat indeed.


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Rach's Prelude Op.23 No.5
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Re: Most Difficult Piano PIece? [Re: LauraJ] #2563378
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Chopin's Ballade #4 is the most technically challenging piece ever written in my humble opinion.

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Re: Most Difficult Piano PIece? [Re: LauraJ] #2594910
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In addition to many that have been mentioned, I'd throw in Chopin's Winterwind Etude and Beethoven's Hammerklavier 4th movement. In the end it's all subjective.

Re: Most Difficult Piano PIece? [Re: LauraJ] #2637408
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Out of these three concertos: Grieg Piano Concerto in A Minor, Franck Symphonic Variations and Mendelssohn Piano Concerto No.1 in G Minor, what is the order of difficulty?

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Re: Most Difficult Piano PIece? [Re: PianoMuse] #2638888
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Originally Posted by PianoMuse
I'd put in a vote for the Prokofiev 2nd concerto as well...that thing is a BEAST...and not only physcially taxing, but emotionally very draining.
"Beware the fury of a patient man"(unknown)

Re: Most Difficult Piano PIece? [Re: LauraJ] #2654002
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Oh come on! Chopin Op. 25 No. 5. It is physically impossible not to play wrong notes in this etude. (Though, as Mark C has pointed out, for most of us all of Chopin's Op. 10 and 25 are "wrong note" etudes!)


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