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Re: Hurray! Good news... #886132
12/19/03 01:36 PM
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When I get a chance, I'm going to read about this Mercola nut because I'm a bit skeptical...I think he's after your money.


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Re: Hurray! Good news... #886133
12/19/03 03:24 PM
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FWIW, I went to Google and typed "coconut oil heart". The first page was all sites talking about the benefits of coconut oil but not necessarily the hydrogenated kind. Mercola\'s article came up about sixth on the list.

(Note: I've never knowingly used coconut oil nor eaten food prepared with it. I also don't have a lot of trust for the AHA and similar organizations who have had a close relationship with the edible oils board and have had a continually changing story on fat and cholestoral.)


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Re: Hurray! Good news... #886134
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Sorry to return so much later to this thread - thank you Pique for the information. I also take probiotics - and enzymes. Your diet certainly sounds healthy.

Regarding the coconut oil, I think the premise is that coconut oil stays stable at very high temperatures (high enough to fry chicken or potatoes, for example), whereas other oils break down and become toxic. I have long believed that hydrongenated oils are at the root of a lot of our illnesses, so I am inclined to believe this.

Dr. Mercola also says that eating fast food french fries is as bad for you as smoking cigarettes. I personally think this is extreme, but for the most part he seems to make a lot of sense to me.

Re: Hurray! Good news... #886135
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Sorry to return so much later to this thread - thank you Pique for the information. I also take probiotics - and enzymes. Your diet certainly sounds healthy.

Regarding the coconut oil, I think the premise is that coconut oil stays stable at very high temperatures (high enough to fry chicken or potatoes, for example), whereas other oils break down and become toxic. I have long believed that hydrongenated oils are at the root of a lot of our illnesses, so I am inclined to believe this.

Virginia, there is contradiction here. Coconut oil IS largely hydrogenated.(See my previous post) That's why not much happens at higher temperatures...it is already saturated with hydrogen. Unless some new discovery has been made, coconut oil should be avoided.(I'm still going to look into this Mercola guy when I get a chance.


While one who sings with his tongue on fire
Gargles in the rat race choir
Bent out of shape from society's pliers
Cares not to come up any higher
But rather get you down in the hole
That he's in.
Re: Hurray! Good news... #886136
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Dr. John - How is coconut oil hydrogenated? I was under the impression that in order for oil to be hydrongenated, it has to be heated to a very high temperature, then hydrogen is added. Is this what they do to make coconut oil?

I thought it was naturally solid, I had no idea it was processed to be that way. So much information, it's hard to know what to believe!

Re: Hurray! Good news... #886137
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So much information, it's hard to know what to believe!
I believe that Oreo cookies with peanut butter on them taste so darn good that I don't care if they kill me or not.


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Re: Hurray! Good news... #886138
12/23/03 08:16 AM
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I'll have to admit - I have a ton of coconut oil in my pantry, but I don't use it for cooking at all.

The coconut oil gets used for my hair as I try to oil it at least once every other week. (Gotta keep the waist-length hair happy and healthy, somehow.)


Regards,
Lyn F.
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