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Larry, I used to get quite upset over yahbdoodoo posts. Not anymore. Personally, I think the guy's an idiot. But, then he probably thinks I'm... well... who knows or cares what he/she thinks about me. I'm sure the thoughts aren't pleasant but then he/she probably thinks they're so superior to me they don't have time for thoughts of me.

Anyhow, as much as I have a hard time sometimes with your sometimes brutal posts I *thoroughly* enjoy when you get brutal with yhabdoodoo. Unless it's unhealthy for you I say GO FOR IT!!! This guy's fair game.

Ahahahahahahhaa!!! I was thinking the exact same thing.

yhapbo's posts are insensitive.

Eloquently put Justme!

Strangely, that is one of the things I like about them!

You're most brilliant post ever Justme... Way to go.

You and me both. In retrospect, I didn't need to add anything to this thread. Whether yhabpo is a troll or merely a bombthrower, he's sitting back and watching a a potential p*ssing contest ensue. Whether I agree with the original post of not, I don't like that type of poster.

count me in the same camp...

I often fall for it, and recognize it too late.

Yhapbo is from a different culture. For us, it is an opportunity to learn another viewpoint - one we may not always agree with.

I've learned a lot from folks here - sometimes changing or refining an opinion I've had - or at least better understanding one I disagree with.

For the Christian's here, Yhapbo should represent an opportunity to demonstrate one's faith.

Yes, Yhapbo has offended people here - particularly thinking of the Gryphon thread with his son.

At the same time, I remember what happened with Benedict - where he'd say something like "some folks in Europe think" - and he'd be blasted to high heaven even if it weren't his opinion. After a while, Benedict was less inclined to bother trying to explain to us how others might view us - because if he did, it was immediately assumed that these were his views and he'd be required to defend them and be beaten for them. Even by the coffee room standards, I didn't regard this as a great presentation of what the US is all about.

Words are better than alternatives. Like others here Yhapbo has some passions - that sometimes get in the way of being heard, but I think he's had some reasonable posts amidst the passionate ones.

K

Ken, you're a better person than I am. As you know I try to see good in everyone. But, this guy seems to ask for it.

HAHAHAHA! Now THAT'S funny!!!! Actually, this whole thread is pretty funny. [Sputter, sputter. Dang commies, postin' from that there subversive degenerate sm~t rag]

I personally like YP's posts. They *are* provocative (but not in a base way)and they do get people thinking. It's also quite amusing to watch Larry react to them.

I don't think YP has even ever stooped to calling Larry a name (no small feat, as I can attest having been on Larry's bash list since my earliest postings here).

As I wrote in March yhabpo = Young Humiliated And Bitter Political Outcast

That yhabpo is from another culture is irrelevant. What is relevant is the extent to which yhabpo outwardly appears to despise open democracy along with the culture and values of the country in which yhabpo resides.

Yelstin had his own yhabpo when he was President of Russia. That yhabpo was called Vladimir Zhirinovsky. Rather than persecuting Zhirinovsky, Yeltsin made certain that Vlad got lot's of press and TV media coverage. As a result Zhirinovsky's mass appeal dropped from over 35% in 1994 to a mere 7% by 1996. It stays pretty much between 5% - 7% to this day.

Can we vote him off the "island" Survivor-style?

A. Yabbadabbadoo is a troll. I doubt he hails from a different culture. He just enjoys yanking chains.

B. He most definitely is a waste of bandwidth.

C. Quirt, I think I'm fixin' to get one of us thrown outta here, 'cuz I've 'bout had enough. If you'd like to jab everytime someone appears, perhaps what is good for the goose, is good for the gander.

I think I've worked up a good enough mad, and you are a worthy opponent.

Shall the games begin?

He represents a distinct minority of participants on this board. He says (and I'd like to believe) that he is from a different culture.

I love when people agree with me on things - but I can learn from when people disagree.

I've told Yhabpo that I thought that sometimes he did his viewpoint a disservice by offending people - but I don't think is conduct is unique.

K

I'm sympathetic toward yhapbo, but I'd like to see him defend himself. (i.e. not just sit back and watch the arguments centered around him.)

Jeez, I'm surprised. We don't like yhapbo. We think he doesn't "defend" himself. He posts stuff that bug us.

LET'S GET HIM!!!

Lord of the flies, here we come.

Grow up, people! This is an internet forum, not your own personal Fight Night.

I'm equally surprised and disappointed that some of the moderators think that cheering on the "get him" mentality is appropriate.

I think he's probably a troll, too, just because there have been too many inconsistencies in the few personal snippets he has shared about himself and the innuendo one would naturally read into the nature of his posts. I wish he were real, and would let us know more about himself. I wish we had someone on this board who was *really* from an Islamic country. We had Wacky for awhile, but during his brief foray he wasn't political. I hope he reappears. We had another mideast quy, briefly (anyone remember his name?), who I'm guessing was also a troll, and wasn't nearly as provocative as YP. And, now YP, who seems to be very keen on the goings on in Iraq, and has used the term infidel here, and decries feminism and women's suffrage, claimed to be resident of Canada and a mideast country but who denies being Muslim.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he took on his ascerbic quality here until he had been repeatedly attacked personally for the political content of his posts.

I wouldn't say that I'm personally sympathetic (I don't think sympathy is the right word, as he hasn't incurred anything unjustly... I'm sympathetic of Toby the Rabbit).

But I agree with Ken that Yhabpo should be able to post pretty much what it wants to... I fell most people should be afforded that.

I too (while I might not act like it) think more can be learned from other people and other cultures. And yes, some here are too quick to fly off the handle sometimes.

I don't want censorship or banning.
But in return I'd like posting with thought.
We can all copy/paste article after article, but that gets boring after awhile.
I don't feel like I know what yhabpo really thinks, I just feel like he posts jabs at things he doesn't like.

Tell me what you do like, let's discourse. Let's learn from each other...
I'm game if you are.

I'm not at all bothered by what he posts (in fact, I've found many of the articles very intriguing), and I certainly don't wan't to "get him" lord of the flies-style. Still, I want to see him defend himself, post more--give us reason to believe he's not a troll.